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Anonymous
March 12, 2005 7:41:01 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

I have been working with home movies and saving them off to a Western
Digital 80 GB and 200 GB USB 2.0 external hard drive. I used Windows XP Disk
Management to create a NTFS partition for both of these drives, since they
were originally FAT32. My computer has a 2.53 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4
processor and 512 MB of RAM.

Most files are .5 to 1 GB in size. I created a folder and tried to move
approximately 50 files into it on the same drive using Windows Explorer. I
kept getting an error that some of the files were being used by another
program, even though I did everything to confirm that they were not.

I have also tried other operations, such as selecting a large number of
files, right clicking and selecting properties. This results in Explorer
become very slow/performing with a delay and either the results don't come
back or they take a very long time. When they do not come back, then
everything is slow and, on Shutdown, I see number of processes having to be
ended (explorer.exe, TeaTimer.exe, gcasServ.exe., ccApp, NVIDIA Twin, etc.).

Is there limitation with Explorer operations via a USB 2.0 external drive
when dealing with large number of large files? If this is not a
limitation... thoughts on resolving what I am experiencing or how to move
large files into a folder and working with them? Other thoughts/help?

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Anonymous
March 12, 2005 7:41:02 AM

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Dan Jensen wrote:
> I have been working with home movies and saving them off to a Western
> Digital 80 GB and 200 GB USB 2.0 external hard drive. I used Windows
> XP Disk Management to create a NTFS partition for both of these
> drives, since they were originally FAT32. My computer has a 2.53
> gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 processor and 512 MB of RAM.
>
> Most files are .5 to 1 GB in size. I created a folder and tried to
> move approximately 50 files into it on the same drive using Windows
> Explorer. I kept getting an error that some of the files were being
> used by another program, even though I did everything to confirm that
> they were not.
> I have also tried other operations, such as selecting a large number
> of files, right clicking and selecting properties. This results in
> Explorer become very slow/performing with a delay and either the
> results don't come back or they take a very long time. When they do
> not come back, then everything is slow and, on Shutdown, I see number
> of processes having to be ended (explorer.exe, TeaTimer.exe,
> gcasServ.exe., ccApp, NVIDIA Twin, etc.).
> Is there limitation with Explorer operations via a USB 2.0 external
> drive when dealing with large number of large files? If this is not a
> limitation... thoughts on resolving what I am experiencing or how to
> move large files into a folder and working with them? Other
> thoughts/help?

Windows XP has a bad habit of accessing the EXTRA information, particularly
in AVI files.
If you wish to avoid this, you can try disabling this for AVI files and/or
you can reboot, don't access the drive with Windows Explorer but copy
everything with command line.

Try turning off the Thumbnail Caching.
1.. Click on "CONTROL PANEL" from the Start Menu.
2.. Click on "FOLDER OPTIONS" in the Control Panel.
3.. Click the view tab
4.. Finally - tick the "DO NOT CACHE THUMBNAILS" box and then click APPLY

Speed up AVI Access by removing this registry key:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{87D62D94-71B3-4b9a-9489-5FE6850DC73E}]

Disable the Indexing Service (Set it to disabled in the services list.)

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Anonymous
March 12, 2005 7:41:02 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

What are you using for Anti-Virus? You'll also want to disable/throttle
MSAS.
Background scanning processes can cause the issue you're seeing. They can
lock a file until real time scanning has completed.

--
Walter Clayton
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.


"Dan Jensen" <DJensen@att.net> wrote in message
news:xpuYd.371504$w62.207742@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>I have been working with home movies and saving them off to a Western
>Digital 80 GB and 200 GB USB 2.0 external hard drive. I used Windows XP
>Disk Management to create a NTFS partition for both of these drives, since
>they were originally FAT32. My computer has a 2.53 gigahertz Intel Pentium
>4 processor and 512 MB of RAM.
>
> Most files are .5 to 1 GB in size. I created a folder and tried to move
> approximately 50 files into it on the same drive using Windows Explorer. I
> kept getting an error that some of the files were being used by another
> program, even though I did everything to confirm that they were not.
>
> I have also tried other operations, such as selecting a large number of
> files, right clicking and selecting properties. This results in Explorer
> become very slow/performing with a delay and either the results don't come
> back or they take a very long time. When they do not come back, then
> everything is slow and, on Shutdown, I see number of processes having to
> be ended (explorer.exe, TeaTimer.exe, gcasServ.exe., ccApp, NVIDIA Twin,
> etc.).
>
> Is there limitation with Explorer operations via a USB 2.0 external drive
> when dealing with large number of large files? If this is not a
> limitation... thoughts on resolving what I am experiencing or how to move
> large files into a folder and working with them? Other thoughts/help?
>
>
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Anonymous
March 12, 2005 10:16:06 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

Unfortunately I am running Norton Internet Security 2005... since it has
already caused me pain, I disconnected from the internet and turned it
completely off. For once it was not the problem.

Could you tell me more about MSAS?

"Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org> wrote in message
news:%23p2Ha5rJFHA.2980@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> What are you using for Anti-Virus? You'll also want to disable/throttle
> MSAS.
> Background scanning processes can cause the issue you're seeing. They can
> lock a file until real time scanning has completed.
>
> --
> Walter Clayton
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
>
>
> "Dan Jensen" <DJensen@att.net> wrote in message
> news:xpuYd.371504$w62.207742@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>I have been working with home movies and saving them off to a Western
>>Digital 80 GB and 200 GB USB 2.0 external hard drive. I used Windows XP
>>Disk Management to create a NTFS partition for both of these drives, since
>>they were originally FAT32. My computer has a 2.53 gigahertz Intel Pentium
>>4 processor and 512 MB of RAM.
>>
>> Most files are .5 to 1 GB in size. I created a folder and tried to move
>> approximately 50 files into it on the same drive using Windows Explorer.
>> I kept getting an error that some of the files were being used by another
>> program, even though I did everything to confirm that they were not.
>>
>> I have also tried other operations, such as selecting a large number of
>> files, right clicking and selecting properties. This results in Explorer
>> become very slow/performing with a delay and either the results don't
>> come back or they take a very long time. When they do not come back, then
>> everything is slow and, on Shutdown, I see number of processes having to
>> be ended (explorer.exe, TeaTimer.exe, gcasServ.exe., ccApp, NVIDIA Twin,
>> etc.).
>>
>> Is there limitation with Explorer operations via a USB 2.0 external drive
>> when dealing with large number of large files? If this is not a
>> limitation... thoughts on resolving what I am experiencing or how to move
>> large files into a folder and working with them? Other thoughts/help?
>>
>>
>
Anonymous
March 12, 2005 10:22:55 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

Great information...

> Windows XP has a bad habit of accessing the EXTRA information,
> particularly in AVI files.
> If you wish to avoid this, you can try disabling this for AVI files and/or
> you can reboot, don't access the drive with Windows Explorer but copy
> everything with command line.
>
> Try turning off the Thumbnail Caching.
> 1.. Click on "CONTROL PANEL" from the Start Menu.
> 2.. Click on "FOLDER OPTIONS" in the Control Panel.
> 3.. Click the view tab
> 4.. Finally - tick the "DO NOT CACHE THUMBNAILS" box and then click APPLY
>

I have tried this step and ran a number of test, but unfortunately did not
experience any noticable difference.

> Speed up AVI Access by removing this registry key:
> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{87D62D94-71B3-4b9a-9489-5FE6850DC73E}]
>

Could you tell me more about what this registry key is for?

> Disable the Indexing Service (Set it to disabled in the services list.)
>

What is this for and where can I find it?

Thanks for all the help...
Anonymous
March 12, 2005 4:59:49 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

> Could you tell me more about MSAS?
determined from
>>> be ended (explorer.exe, TeaTimer.exe, gcasServ.exe., ccApp, NVIDIA Twin,
gcasServ.exe is part of Microsoft Antispyware (MSAS) unless you're running
the original Giant.

If running MSAS then be aware it *is* a beta product, it *does* have
problems and should *not* be installed in a production environment.

Regardless, a possibility is that MSAS/Giant is attempting to real time scan
the files and getting hung.

Also, if you're doing a move, make sure there are no other explorer windows
open with the directory contents.

--
Walter Clayton
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.


"Dan Jensen" <DJensen@att.net> wrote in message
news:WGwYd.127300$Th1.2485@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Unfortunately I am running Norton Internet Security 2005... since it has
> already caused me pain, I disconnected from the internet and turned it
> completely off. For once it was not the problem.
>
> Could you tell me more about MSAS?
>
> "Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@SPmvpsAM.org> wrote in message
> news:%23p2Ha5rJFHA.2980@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> What are you using for Anti-Virus? You'll also want to disable/throttle
>> MSAS.
>> Background scanning processes can cause the issue you're seeing. They can
>> lock a file until real time scanning has completed.
>>
>> --
>> Walter Clayton
>> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
>>
>>
>> "Dan Jensen" <DJensen@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:xpuYd.371504$w62.207742@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>I have been working with home movies and saving them off to a Western
>>>Digital 80 GB and 200 GB USB 2.0 external hard drive. I used Windows XP
>>>Disk Management to create a NTFS partition for both of these drives,
>>>since they were originally FAT32. My computer has a 2.53 gigahertz Intel
>>>Pentium 4 processor and 512 MB of RAM.
>>>
>>> Most files are .5 to 1 GB in size. I created a folder and tried to move
>>> approximately 50 files into it on the same drive using Windows Explorer.
>>> I kept getting an error that some of the files were being used by
>>> another program, even though I did everything to confirm that they were
>>> not.
>>>
>>> I have also tried other operations, such as selecting a large number of
>>> files, right clicking and selecting properties. This results in Explorer
>>> become very slow/performing with a delay and either the results don't
>>> come back or they take a very long time. When they do not come back,
>>> then everything is slow and, on Shutdown, I see number of processes
>>> having to be ended (explorer.exe, TeaTimer.exe, gcasServ.exe., ccApp,
>>> NVIDIA Twin, etc.).
>>>
>>> Is there limitation with Explorer operations via a USB 2.0 external
>>> drive when dealing with large number of large files? If this is not a
>>> limitation... thoughts on resolving what I am experiencing or how to
>>> move large files into a folder and working with them? Other
>>> thoughts/help?
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
March 13, 2005 2:58:16 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

This registry key is about the way windows manage the "preview" of avi
files. Because of it´s usual size, it causes the system to slowdown very
much.

"Dan Jensen" <DJensen@att.net> escreveu na mensagem
news:jNwYd.127323$Th1.1276@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Great information...
>
>> Windows XP has a bad habit of accessing the EXTRA information,
>> particularly in AVI files.
>> If you wish to avoid this, you can try disabling this for AVI files
>> and/or you can reboot, don't access the drive with Windows Explorer but
>> copy everything with command line.
>>
>> Try turning off the Thumbnail Caching.
>> 1.. Click on "CONTROL PANEL" from the Start Menu.
>> 2.. Click on "FOLDER OPTIONS" in the Control Panel.
>> 3.. Click the view tab
>> 4.. Finally - tick the "DO NOT CACHE THUMBNAILS" box and then click
>> APPLY
>>
>
> I have tried this step and ran a number of test, but unfortunately did not
> experience any noticable difference.
>
>> Speed up AVI Access by removing this registry key:
>> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{87D62D94-71B3-4b9a-9489-5FE6850DC73E}]
>>
>
> Could you tell me more about what this registry key is for?
>
>> Disable the Indexing Service (Set it to disabled in the services list.)
>>
>
> What is this for and where can I find it?
>
> Thanks for all the help...
>
!