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Hi first off i just signed up to this site after reading it for a few days and after deciding if i want to go down the road of building my own system, i signed up.

Ive read ALOT of threads and have gained alot of useful information, so thank all of you who have been helping everyone!

Im looking to step into the dual core world out from beneath the celeron rock ive been under for the last few years. Im an avid gamer on a very very tight budget (it may take me 8 weeks to order everything) that aside i have my very first question.

Im looking at the amd x2 3800(65w)windsor cpu
with either the ecs ka3 mvp 580 crossfire or xfx n590ash9 nvidia nforce 590 mobo's the ecs is 55 dollars cheaper...does anyone have any suggestion for a different MOBO?? gonna go gskill 2gb (2x1gig) ram 240pin 168$ nice price..new egg rox! but yeah gonan take some time to get all this together and i also ordered 2 noob books to help me out
im looking at around a 1000 budget or so without a display. thanks again :) 

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Yep, you can do ALOT better than AMD and ECS for $1,000 :D 

-Core2Duo 4300
-MSI 965 Neo-F motherboard
-2 gigs Value RAM (DDR2-533 or 667)
-FSP 500w PSU
-whatever case you like
-Seagate 320 gig 7200.10 w/16 meg cache for hard drive
-Samsung SH-S182 DVD/RW drive
-minimum Nvidia 7600GT graphics card (this is obviously up for debate, entirely depends on your budget though). Try to get a better card if you can.

That'll give you a good start and should hit your budget. Get the good core components there and you can always upgrade the graphics card to a DX10 card later in the Fall when mid-range cards are out and prices are lower ;) 
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Ive got a better system

Case- Thermaltake Armor Jr (Black) $105.99

Mobo- Gigabyte 965P DS3 $118.99

Video Card- Asus X1950PRO $169.99 (This is FREQUENTLY out of stock, but I saw it in stock yesterday)

Power Supply- XClio Greatpower 550W $89.99

CPU- Intel E4300 $169

RAM- G-Skill 2x1Gb DDR 800 $184.99

Hard Drive- Western Digital Caviar 160Gb SATA $52.99

DVD-RW- Sony 18X DVD±R $29.99

Thermal Paste- Arctic Silver Ceramique $4.99 (Placed second in DaClan's review)

Extra Fan For CPU Cooler- Scythe S-Flex 120mm $14.99

CPU Cooler- Scythe Infinity $57.99 (You can mount two fans on this for extra cooling)

GRAND TOTAL: $999.90 (NOT including shipping)
I think this is right under your budget! :lol: 

LMAO, nice one.

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Hi.
Depends what you need it for.
Check the Overclocking section.
Depends on your budget.
Post your specs.


LMAO, good one, that covers 99% of all questions asked here ;) 

If you really want to find the good deals, go to websites like froogle.com and pricegrabber.com. Rarely do I find that the egg has a better deal then many of the other e-tellers. In fact I found an e6600 for 230 bucks the other day, to bad I don't have the funds for a new system, or permission from the ceo if you know what I mean

-Is this setup good? YES!
-Do I have enough budget? YES! if you get more money!
-I wanna run all the new games at high settings, do I need a better graphics card? YES! Unless you want to run at 640 resolution!
-Should I go liquid? YES! Spend more money!
-Should I wait for R600? YES! If you can wait forever!
-Shouldn't I go with AMD? YES! If you want a slower system!
-I see smoke, is the motherboard fried? YES! "standoffs"...use em.
-I get errors in MemTest, is my RAM bad? YES!
-I want overclock to insane clocks, can I use stock HSF? YES! If you want to burn out your CPU!
-I want a Pro Hi-Fi Elite Pwner Sound Card, is this a good idea? YES! If you want to waste your money, go for it!
-Will Dell make me love my computer more? YES! The same way a boar loves a cheetah!
-Do I have to pay more online if I'm outside the U.S? YES! You have to pay for free Health Care somehow!!


Did I miss anything? LOL.

:roll:

As Comptia said, post yourself under the "Noob Acceptance Thread" in the Community section. If MJ approves you, you can join. If not...let's not go in to that. :lol: 

Oh, I forgot, welcome to da Forumz.

thanks for all your suggestions they really help.
thanks for the banter too..


so far ive came up with
GA-M61P S3 mobo $80
amdx2 3800 2ghz(65w) maybe go 4200 for the extra 30 bucks? $109
ram 2x 1gig $185 think it was g skill
hd 160 caviar $53
liteon dvd drive 28.99
anycase $39-69
400-500W PSU (possibly included with case)

i guess ill go win xp 64 since everyone is saying wait to vista SP1...
bare with me im new to all this you 8O 's
but i like the input

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thanks for all your suggestions they really help.
thanks for the banter too..


so far ive came up with
GA-M61P S3 mobo $80
amdx2 3800 2ghz(65w) maybe go 4200 for the extra 30 bucks? $109
ram 2x 1gig $185 think it was g skill
hd 160 caviar $53
liteon dvd drive 28.99
anycase $39-69
400-500W PSU (possibly included with case)

i guess ill go win xp 64 since everyone is saying wait to vista SP1...
bare with me im new to all this you 8O 's
but i like the input
Better check for driver support on the 64 bit sku of XP before you buy anything. Also make sure you do get the vista coupon, it will come in handy. Also again, didn't you notice that going with core 2 duo would be more bang for your buck. I have a AMD from back in the day when they were better then Intel(K8 vs Netburst), but the new Intel stuff smokes AMD. Anyway, good luck with the purchasing.

For general use, there is not much difference between the c2d and the x2.
The e6300 is $100 more, and unless you want the extra 5 seconds, or 6 fps, then his choice was fine.

If it was between the x2 5000 and the e6600 then the obvious chose would be the c2d.

what did i want? insight, knowledge, hints and tips, how to's, all thing that will make my building project a little bit easier my first time around. pros and cons, not so much off into OC'ing but maybe down the road sometime. i dont have alot of money to be building a super fast machine every 4 weeks because i keep frying them lol =/ just looking for friendly advice thats all 'old hand'

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Ok... so do you want us to roll out the red carpet? Perhaps a hand-job? I'm just not sure what you were asking for.


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what did i want? insight, knowledge, hints and tips, how to's, all thing that will make my building project a little bit easier my first time around. pros and cons, not so much off into OC'ing but maybe down the road sometime. i dont have alot of money to be building a super fast machine every 4 weeks because i keep frying them lol =/ just looking for friendly advice thats all 'old hand'


Don't turn down the hand-job - he's fantastic ! :lol: 

Don't go for the "old hand" guys....that' ain't cool......their hands feel like sandpaper against your.......;) Go for somebody that's Faithful Poster....they are much smoother with their hands 8O

LOL, no worries.........everyone is just having some good fun at your expense ;) 

Looks like you can take a joke so it's all good. Just be careful if they say that you have to assemble the motherboard in the nude to avoid electrical surges that can damage your system :roll:


:lol: 

lol..


Useful fact for your beginning mind at THG


Best way to clean a computer is wash it. Yes I said wash it (with water). its the most static free thing you can do, and it works very well.

Let dry for 2 weeks and your good to go.

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Just be careful if they say that you have to assemble the motherboard in the nude to avoid electrical surges that can damage your system


Also, if someone suggests a 'biological' alternative to thermal paste, don't believe them. Sure, it may be fun, but it won't work and you can be certain it'll void your warranty.

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Ive got a better system

Case- Thermaltake Armor Jr (Black) $105.99

Mobo- Gigabyte 965P DS3 $118.99

Video Card- Asus X1950PRO $169.99 (This is FREQUENTLY out of stock, but I saw it in stock yesterday)

Power Supply- XClio Greatpower 550W $89.99

CPU- Intel E4300 $169

RAM- G-Skill 2x1Gb DDR 800 $184.99

Hard Drive- Western Digital Caviar 160Gb SATA $52.99

DVD-RW- Sony 18X DVD±R $29.99

Thermal Paste- Arctic Silver Ceramique $4.99 (Placed second in DaClan's review)

Extra Fan For CPU Cooler- Scythe S-Flex 120mm $14.99

CPU Cooler- Scythe Infinity $57.99 (You can mount two fans on this for extra cooling)

GRAND TOTAL: $999.90 (NOT including shipping)
I think this is right under your budget! :lol: 


All jokes aside, this rig is something that you will definitely be happy with, unless you really want to go with AMD. the only thing it lacks is dual graphic card capability, and anyone can tell you that a single next gen card will smoke any dual card setup right now.

good luck :wink:

LOL funny stuff here. And if you have the G15 keyboard like me, you can simply pop off the keys that are "stuck" ;)  :lol: 

Seriously, good list of specs there, very nice. Will be a blazing fast improvement for you. Keep in mind possible future upgrades and such for DX10, etc for PSU and so forth.
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