e6300 core 2 duo vs AMD 64x2 4600

[rwayne]

I am looking to build a Mid/Highend range gaming PC in March. What processor is the best value?

Core 2 Duo e6300 conroe on a P975 board?

Or

AMD 64x2 4600 chip on a AM2 board?

I want the best bang for the buck.
Both of these chips are around the same price.
Somewhere around $180

Why doesn't Tom's Hardware have the e6300 listed on their CPU benchmark charts? I wish I could compare the performance of the two.

Yes, I heard the core duo you can over clock it to the max. But how easy is it to over clock? I have never done it before.

 

[apt403]

Neither, get an E4300, $170, pretty much as fast as the E6300.

 

[gOJDO]

The X2 4600+ is faster. If you plan to overclock, then the E6300 is the way to go.

 

[rwayne]

I just now checked out the e4300 on new egg. I am glad you told me about it.

One thing I don't understand. I see a lot of quotes where people with intel chips can not get the front side bus up to 800mhz.

Like one post for the e4300 on new egg says he can only get the FSB up to @345mhz. Why is that? Why is it so hard to get a FSB to run at full 800mhz speed?

I am not very knowledgable in this area. I have only done AMD builds.

 

[Major_Spittle]

you have to multiply the 345 X 4 to get the FSB. in your post.

for a 800MHz FSB the actual setting is 200MHz.

If you decide to build a low end system be sure to get an AMD processor to help keep them in bussiness so that Intel won't raise their chip prices.

 

[rwayne]

Then.... Say if a Buy a e4300 chip along with a P975 Motherboard.

Will the motherboard automatically recognize the chip and have the mother board run at 800mhz? Or is that something you have to change in the bios when you first get a mobo to make sure it will run at it's advertised speed?

 

[rwayne]

Is there a audible difference in chips?

My current computer has a Pentium 4 2.4 ghz processor.

And I can HEAR it also. Every time it processes something I can hear this faint rapid clicking.

My wife's AMD athlon 2700 does not do that at all. It is silent as can be.

Do the e4300's and the e6300's make noticable sound? It is really annoying.

Or maybe this issue is just isolated to my dell or the Pentium series of chips.

 

[Grimmy]

CPU's don't make noise. The clicks you hear are prolly the HD's when it is being accessed.

Only real noise that may come from the CPU, is the CPU Fan for the HS.

 

[apt403]

A CPU could make noise, if you pumped like 50,000w through it i bet it would make some noise.


When you say "P975" do you mean 975X or P965? Both chipsets are awesome, but i like P965 better. Hence my mobo.

 

[SEALBoy]

A CPU could make noise, if you pumped like 50,000w through it i bet it would make some noise.

Yeah, you'd have to be pretty damn deaf not to hear the lightning streaking across your room.

 

[apt403]

Lol, your computer would turn into a screwy Tesla coil.

 

[SEALBoy]

Yep, just like the ones from Red Alert 2.

I shudder to think what would happen if you put that kind of wattage through a Prescott.

 

[Major_Spittle]

CPU's don't make noise. The clicks you hear are prolly the HD's when it is being accessed.

Only real noise that may come from the CPU, is the CPU Fan for the HS.

Actually my Pentium 560 sucked so bad that I could hear it. It sounded like BM laughing at me. I upgraded to my ES6700 and sound hasn't came back since.

 

[apt403]

I shudder to think what would happen if you put that kind of wattage through a Prescott.

I bet the processor would just melt, along with the mobo. I wonder if its even feasible to pump that much power through a processor? You would probably have to get like 30 generators to work along side the total power output for all the houses in a 4 block area.

 

[SEALBoy]

Melt? You're joking right? An ice cube will melt. A Prescott will skip a few states of matter and become a neutron star.

On a more realistic note, pumping that much wattage through a processor is definitely not feasible. The chip's made out of silicon - not even a full conductor. It'll melt in an instant.

 

[apt403]

Thats why you go to Antarctica where its like -58c then use like liquid carbon or something to cool it. You would have to put the pc in somekind of crazy chamber to get the pressure up to 4000 Megapascals to use liquid carbon, but still. Your not going to find another liquid thats -4273c.

 

[Major_Spittle]

Some current leakage at the gates could be expected.

As for the OP: Get an Intel system or wait until AMD has something out worth getting. K10 is still just smoke and mirrors right now, if I wanted to go the AMD route I would wait and make sure there will be an AMD route worth taking. 45nm Penryn is not that far behind K10 also. Who knows, maybe K10 will have a 3-5 month life cycle and become the next AMD X2 thang.

Ask anybody here for a benchmark on the K10 or a release date.

 

[SEALBoy]

Liquid carbon exists above 3000 C. It is one of the most heat-resistant substances known to man. Doubt you'd want to use that to cool a CPU.

What you're looking for is liquid He or N. And no, the CPU still won't survive 50,000 watts.

 

[apt403]

OK, make a new processor, out of diamond or tungsten, or something. Then try it. It would probably wouldnt work for sh*t since tungsten and diamond are crappy conductors, but still, wouldnt melt. As fast.

 

[ryokinshin]

yea i feel sorry for the 2 people who put amd for votes, the e6300 beast the x2 4600, the e4300 dosnt, but considering u can jus stock oc it to do better then the e6300 and its going to be dirt cheap, yes either way u go its a better choice

 

[SEALBoy]

the memory speed = 2 x 267 or 667 MHz (DDR2-667).

Not to nit pick or anything, but DDR2 667 actually runs at 333. You should have said 533, not 667.

 

[Grimmy]

A CPU could make noise, if you pumped like 50,000w through it i bet it would make some noise.


When you say "P975" do you mean 975X or P965? Both chipsets are awesome, but i like P965 better. Hence my mobo.

:lol: . o O (I think anything would make a certain noise if you pumped 50,000watts through it)

 

[apt403]

Yeah, the sound of burning wood and flesh as you dash out of your burning house with thousands of dollars of computer stuff and your cat in your arms.

 

[SEALBoy]

Yeah, and the electricity company is going to rape your bank account, not only for the 50000W but also for plunging half the country into darkness...

Poor cat.

 

[rwayne]

I am glad you clarified that.

The original post confused the h3ll out of me.

I could not figure out how 267 + 267 = 667