Recommendations on audio cables

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There's always a lot of discussion about video cables and the pros/cons of
DVI over component, Monster over other brands, etc. What about audio cables?
Are there any clear differences in what's on the market? What would be the
best choice for a Samsung HLP-5063W which has jacks for only analog audio?

Bruce

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Any well shielded cable would be a good choice for that application,
although you may not experience any problems using what came with the
DVD player.
-Bill
www.uptownaudio.com
Roanoke VA
(540) 343-1250

"Bruiser" <noth@nks.com> wrote in message
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> There's always a lot of discussion about video cables and the
pros/cons of
> DVI over component, Monster over other brands, etc. What about audio
cables?
> Are there any clear differences in what's on the market? What would
be the
> best choice for a Samsung HLP-5063W which has jacks for only analog
audio?
>
> Bruce
>
>

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"Jim Gilliland" <usemylastname@cheerful.com> wrote in message
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| Bruiser wrote:
| > There's always a lot of discussion about video cables and the pros/cons
of
| > DVI over component, Monster over other brands, etc. What about audio
cables?
| > Are there any clear differences in what's on the market? What would be
the
| > best choice for a Samsung HLP-5063W which has jacks for only analog
audio?
|
| Use whatever you've got - it won't make any difference. The Samsung's
| audio capabilities are mediocre at best, so there's little point in
| worrying about cables.
|
| I have the same set, and I just disable the audio portion of the set
| completely. All my audio comes from digital feeds to an external
receiver.

That's what I plan to do actually, but I was curious to sample the Samsung's
audio first and didn't know if different audio cables would matter.

I don't know what STB Adelphia is bringing out tomorrow and what audio/outs
it has. My DVD has dibs on my receiver's only optical input as I play a lot
of music CD's with it. But a coax should sound nearly as good through my
system.

Thanks.

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"Randy Sweeney" <rsweeney1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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|
| "Bruiser" <noth@nks.com> wrote in message
| news:m6udnc2PMJbrpbbcRVn-uw@giganews.com...
| > There's always a lot of discussion about video cables and the pros/cons
of
| > DVI over component, Monster over other brands, etc. What about audio
| cables?
| > Are there any clear differences in what's on the market? What would be
the
| > best choice for a Samsung HLP-5063W which has jacks for only analog
audio?
| >
| > Bruce
|
| audio interconnect cables are pretty much insensitive to anything - buy
| cheap - Wal-Mart.
|
| As for speaker cables, that's different - especially for high power
| systems - buy big stranded copper, but you don't have to go for enhanced
| karma ,cyrogenically-blessed, oxygen-repellent, silver dipped, subspace
| hyper-matrixed cable or any such nonsense.
|
| wire gauge decreases as wire gets bigger - get #12 (heavy duty zip cord) -
| Lowes, Home Depot, hardware store
| buy it in bulk and attach some Radio Shack gold plated contact ends to it
to
| make the best contacts at the amp and speaker.
| make sure you identify the polarity correctly at each end so you don't
| invert a signal
|
| Tell you enthusiast friends you originally had the Monster's, but didn't
| like their limited highs, so you spent your children's college money on
| platinum coated/diamond extruded, individually blessed Shunyata's or
| something snooty... they will INSTANTLY hear the difference (even where
none
| exists).
|

LOL Thanks, Randy.

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Monster cables are the best!

They are injected with NITROGEN so that the signal flows REALLY fast!
(Same reasons that race cars use NITROGREN!)

The arrows on the cable help the electrons flow correctly also. (Keeps them
from getting lost!)

I'm joking, of course.

Any cable with correct shielding will work fine. If its cable that you'll
be plugging in and out often, look for something a little rugged as well.

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WTF is "back EMF"?
(Unleash the Trolls!)


Jodster

"Candy Baby" <candy@hotbod.com> wrote in message
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> Yeah! A lot nof level headed people here. I'll never forget the first time
I
> strolled into a high-end (read "rip-off" ) Hi-Fi store and got my first
pitch
> for Bi-Wired Speakers.
> "So both wires are actually going to the same connection?"
> "Yes, it helps prevent 'Back EMF' and also effectively increases the
gauge"
> "Why not just use bigger wire, electrically it's the same"
> "Yeah, but you've still got the "Back EMF' problem then!"
> So 2 sets of cables for each speaker and each run was around $500! I
walked
> out of there stunned that people could be so gulible!
>
>
>
>
>
> "Eric" <none@nospam.not> wrote in message
> news:10ip535enmvc817@corp.supernews.com...
> > Monster cables are the best!
> >
> > They are injected with NITROGEN so that the signal flows REALLY fast!
> > (Same reasons that race cars use NITROGREN!)
> >
> > The arrows on the cable help the electrons flow correctly also. (Keeps
> them
> > from getting lost!)
> >
> > I'm joking, of course.
> >
> > Any cable with correct shielding will work fine. If its cable that
you'll
> > be plugging in and out often, look for something a little rugged as
well.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Randy Sweeney wrote:
> "Candy Baby" <candy@hotbod.com> wrote...

>> Yeah! A lot nof level headed people here. I'll never forget the
>> first time I strolled into a high-end (read "rip-off" ) Hi-Fi
>> store and got my first pitch for Bi-Wired Speakers.
>> "So both wires are actually going to the same connection?"
>> "Yes, it helps prevent 'Back EMF' and also effectively increases
>> the gauge"

>> "Why not just use bigger wire, electrically it's the same" "Yeah,
>> but you've still got the "Back EMF' problem then!" So 2 sets of
>> cables for each speaker and each run was around $500! I walked
>> out of there stunned that people could be so gulible!

Shhhhhh! Many of them hang around here, unfortunately.

> actually, the bi-wire stuff does have some basis in fact

(sigh) Yeah, right. So would using electrical Service Entrance
Cable for your speakers, but it's so far past the concept of
"overkill" that it needs a better description.

> but decent crossovers and low resistance (big gauge) make it
> trivial.

You misspelled "laughable". HTH.

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aka I-zheet M'drurz [ have some sympathy, and some taste.
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wrote:

> I used to be a cable atheiest until a few years ago I tried
> monster s-vhs. The improvement in black level was noticable.

Wow! They do signal processing??! I am immmm-pressed!

> I also noticed some improvement when I tried their speaker wire

Yeah, I'll bet!

> Say what you want,

"You're a Heat-Seeker moron" would go nicely there, thanks!

> these cables are worth it, especially the
> componet. And besides they look really great instead of the
> hodge-podge of mess that used to be behind my receiver.
> And the quality's better. You wouldnt put stamped tin wheels on
> a porsch, but you would put a bunch of "wallmart specials" on
> ten thou of gear?(well, maybe you would!)

Indeed I would. But then again, I'm not a Heat-Seeker moron!

--
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aka I-zheet M'drurz [ have some sympathy, and some taste.
Accept no substitutes! [ Use all your well-learned politesse,
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And how long have your worked for Monster cables?

<steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>I used to be a cable atheiest until a few years ago I tried monster s-vhs.
> The improvement in black level was noticable.
> I also noticed some improvement when I tried their speaker wire
> Say what you want, these cables are worth it, especially the componet.
> And besides they look really great instead of the hodge-podge of mess that
> used to be behind my receiver.
> And the quality's better. You wouldnt put stamped tin wheels on a porsch,
> but you would put a bunch of "wallmart specials" on ten thou of
> gear?(well,
> maybe you would!)
> "Eric" <none@nospam.not> wrote in message
> news:10ip535enmvc817@corp.supernews.com...
>> Monster cables are the best!
>>
>> They are injected with NITROGEN so that the signal flows REALLY fast!
>> (Same reasons that race cars use NITROGREN!)
>>
>> The arrows on the cable help the electrons flow correctly also. (Keeps
> them
>> from getting lost!)
>>
>> I'm joking, of course.
>>
>> Any cable with correct shielding will work fine. If its cable that
>> you'll
>> be plugging in and out often, look for something a little rugged as well.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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> >>I used to be a cable atheiest until a few years ago I tried monster
s-vhs.
> >>The improvement in black level was noticable.
> >>I also noticed some improvement when I tried their speaker wire
> >>Say what you want, these cables are worth it, especially the componet.
> >>And besides they look really great instead of the hodge-podge of mess
that
> >>used to be behind my receiver.
> >>And the quality's better. You wouldnt put stamped tin wheels on a
porsch,
> >>but you would put a bunch of "wallmart specials" on ten thou of
> >>gear?(well,
> >>maybe you would!)
> >>"Eric" <none@nospam.not> wrote in message
> >>news:10ip535enmvc817@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>>Monster cables are the best!
> >>>
> >>>They are injected with NITROGEN so that the signal flows REALLY fast!
> >>>(Same reasons that race cars use NITROGREN!)
> >>>
> >>>The arrows on the cable help the electrons flow correctly also. (Keeps
> >>them from getting lost!) I'm joking, of course.
> >>>
> >>>Any cable with correct shielding will work fine. If its cable that
> >>>you'll be plugging in and out often, look for something a little rugged
as well.

I've found that monster cable plugs are so stiff (good connection) that
customers are pulling off the ground connection for the RCA jacks out of the
back of the TV. That's not good, give me a weaker gold plated connector on
a cheaper cable anytime. They should only be plugged in once every couple
of years anyway.

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"I-zheet M'drurz" <diespammer@icubed.com> wrote in message
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> wrote:
>
> > I used to be a cable atheiest until a few years ago I tried
> > monster s-vhs. The improvement in black level was noticable.
>
> Wow! They do signal processing??! I am immmm-pressed!
>
> > I also noticed some improvement when I tried their speaker wire
>
> Yeah, I'll bet!
>
> > Say what you want,
>
> "You're a Heat-Seeker moron" would go nicely there, thanks!
>
> > these cables are worth it, especially the
> > componet. And besides they look really great instead of the
> > hodge-podge of mess that used to be behind my receiver.
> > And the quality's better. You wouldnt put stamped tin wheels on
> > a porsch, but you would put a bunch of "wallmart specials" on
> > ten thou of gear?(well, maybe you would!)
>
> Indeed I would. But then again, I'm not a Heat-Seeker moron!
>
> --
> The real Tom Pendergast [ So if you meet me, have some courtesy,
> aka I-zheet M'drurz [ have some sympathy, and some taste.
> Accept no substitutes! [ Use all your well-learned politesse,
> $1 to Mick for the .sig ---[ or I'll lay your soul to waste.

No your not a "heet seeker moron" whatever the hell that is, just a plain
old everyday moron.
I've seen asswipes like you every since I've been in audio, you seem to
think that the primary purpose of high end audio is to save money, which is
REALLY stupid.
If you want to save some money, numnutz, get yourself a tv/vcr combo from
wallmart
Just because you're too worthless too earn enough money to support a hobby
in home theater dosent mean you have to bother those of us who do.
Now go back to your twenty year old magnavox with the clothes hanger antenna
and the atari video console and leave us adults alone, okay, little boy?

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Heat Seeker Moron wrote:
> "I-zheet M'drurz" wrote...
>> Heat Seeker Moron wrote:

>> > I used to be a cable atheiest until a few years ago I tried
>> > monster s-vhs. The improvement in black level was noticable.

>> Wow! They do signal processing??! I am immmm-pressed!

I see you've replied to me 3 or 4 times now, but you STILL KEEP
avoiding this one!

Please explain to us how a piece of wire can do signal
processing, how it can alter the "black levels" of a video
signal.

Just answer that one, Wizard, and spare me the spewing venom
where you do everything but. Here's your chance, give yourself
some credibility!!!

--
The real Tom Pendergast [ So if you meet me, have some courtesy,
aka I-zheet M'drurz [ have some sympathy, and some taste.
Accept no substitutes! [ Use all your well-learned politesse,
$1 to Mick for the .sig ---[ or I'll lay your soul to waste.

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not long
You need decent cables, doesnt matter who makes em.
Right now I have a RCA brand componet cable running from my receiver to my
tv, and since my receiver upconverts everything to componet EVERYTHING goes
through this cable, and it looks great.
The main thing about cables is to get one with gold plate, to get a better
connection and to help against corrorsion, and decent sheilding so you not
only dont lose your signal but you dont get interferrence.
Theres a lot of decent brands out there, its just that monster is everywhere
and sell 3 ft interconnects for as low as 10 bucks for a 3 meter pair. A
bargain really.
I just dont see why anybody who spends a lot of coin on audio gear would
hook everything up with the "red,white, and yellow" cheapies made out of 30
guage wire and a thin coat of plastic, with cheap tin or brass clasps
Penny wise but pound foolish is the phrase that applies here, I beleive. Why
reduce the level of performance in your system to the level of a freebie
pair of cables that came with your gear?
"Harold Horseradish" <sdf@lk.com> wrote in message
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> And how long have your worked for Monster cables?
>
> <steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:GuI2d.173369$%n4.124876@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> >I used to be a cable atheiest until a few years ago I tried monster
s-vhs.
> > The improvement in black level was noticable.
> > I also noticed some improvement when I tried their speaker wire
> > Say what you want, these cables are worth it, especially the componet.
> > And besides they look really great instead of the hodge-podge of mess
that
> > used to be behind my receiver.
> > And the quality's better. You wouldnt put stamped tin wheels on a
porsch,
> > but you would put a bunch of "wallmart specials" on ten thou of
> > gear?(well,
> > maybe you would!)
> > "Eric" <none@nospam.not> wrote in message
> > news:10ip535enmvc817@corp.supernews.com...
> >> Monster cables are the best!
> >>
> >> They are injected with NITROGEN so that the signal flows REALLY fast!
> >> (Same reasons that race cars use NITROGREN!)
> >>
> >> The arrows on the cable help the electrons flow correctly also. (Keeps
> > them
> >> from getting lost!)
> >>
> >> I'm joking, of course.
> >>
> >> Any cable with correct shielding will work fine. If its cable that
> >> you'll
> >> be plugging in and out often, look for something a little rugged as
well.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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Nick250 wrote:
> I believe it was PT Barnum who said "no one ever lost money over
> estimating of the gullibility of the American public."

QUOTATION: No one in this world, so far as I know ... has ever lost
money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the
plain people.
ATTRIBUTION: H.L. (Henry Lewis) Mencken (1880–1956), U.S. journalist.
Chicago Tribune (Sept. 19, 1926).


BTW, I agree with you about the wires.

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<steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> As I explained in another post (mine are slow in making it to this
group)
> when hooking up an analog cable signal to an s-vhs vcr, I noticed a
definite
> improvment in black level over one of the cheap cables I had been
using. I
> dont know if it was better shielding, or if something was wrong with
my old
> cable, but the difference was there.

I don't doubt it. But, knowing what I do about what it takes to
change the black level, it certainly is a puzzlement. I'd sure want
to get to the bottom of it--even if it means buying yet another cable,
taking the ones I have apart or measuring their parameters.

Of course, you have to keep in mind that I'm like that. I've been
known to buy a device just to see how they can make it so cheaply.

Norm Strong

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Jim Gilliland wrote:

> The more likely explanation is that you are a victim of the placebo
> effect.

Steve is the poster child for the placebo effect.

David