PHOTOS of AMD/ATI R600 Vidio card

hate to break it to you, but we've all seen the r600 before, I and some others posted it back a couple of weeks ago, anyways, the one you found is the oem version, the regular version is only 9.5" because it doesn't have the oem fan on it

ahh you beat me to it... oh well

I don't care if this has been posted before, give me more photos as I want 1. It looks so beasty.

Real news?

Uh the article says the system requires 300W, which is what we expected, Kyle misread it to mean the card itself requires the full 300W.

BTW, where does the 300W come from when the PCIe only supplies 75W as a PCIe1.1 slot, and 75W on a 6 pin connector and then 100W on an 8 pin connector. Sounds like he's having trouble adding.

Also I find it funny that he writes about the card requiring 13+" of space (but not saying the actual card length) and implying it'll be the biggest card, yet, the GF7900GX2 would be longer if the 12.5" OEM R600 card at VR-Zone are accurate.

Looks like rumour-mongering of the InQ variety, but without the natural tendency of most people to distrust the InQ.

Must be a slow news day, especially with [H] not actually getting their hands on one, or seeing one live, unlike the EEtimes article which says 200W R600;

http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest [...] =197700269

4 pins can't cary 75 W so how does it make the PCIe 150W?

The 4 pin connector is for SLi/Xfire boards to help the power across the mobo/chipset instead of suppling both the PEG slots with 75W when one is only electrically 4x, etc. and they don't wanna fry the mobo.

PCIe 2.0 will move to 150W, but there's no way the R600 is relying on everyone having that.

lol, 4 pins can carry 75 w easy, remember P=VI (watts = volts x amps) but that is not worth arguing here, im wrong, lol (ps, 12v x 30a = 360w [aka 12v rail with 30a at disposal so you can underatan how i thought that the 12v molex plug might increase the pci-e power

We know for certain that 2900XTX will have two PCIe power connectors, one of which will be 6-pin and the other 8-pin. The sources of power available to the 2900XTX therefore are:

75W from the slot
75W from the 6-pin PCIe connector
150W from the 8-pin PCIe connector

The theoretical maximum power it could draw is therefore 300W - but it practice it will be well short of that.

What we do not yet know absolutely for certain is whether the card requries all of those connectors to be connected at once. One very strong rumour is that the card will work at standard clock speeds by using two 6-pin PCIe connectors (one using an adapter) but that overclocking will be disabled in the driver under those conditions. Connecting a 6-pin and an 8-pin connector will enable overclocking.

If this is true it means that the highest peak power the card will ever draw at normal speeds, even for a fraction of a second, is less than 225W, and that the average power consumption will be correspondingly lower. A figure of 200W has been suggested in several articles - this seems very reasonable. An overlocked card will need more, but it might still not actually exceed 225W - there needs to be a margin for error if it is to be guaranteed stable.

i think im going to refer anyone who is looking for r600
specs to wingy

The 8 pin is spec'd to supply 100W, I think you're over-estimating what's expected with what's possible.
Either they or you are relying on totally re-built power supplies with different power to the various connectors or Kyle's adding wrong based on current layout, or the assumtion is ATi is relying on PCIe2.0 only, whereas if anything I think it's optional at best.

That would be similar to the GF6800U which didn't really need the second molex connector unless overclocking or under truely stressful situations, like D3 at high res/AA. I think that's plausible, far more so thann the 300W for the card itself alone. And along the same 'optional' thread, if the card is PCIe2.0 compliant it might make the extra 6 pin connector optional, where it would be required for plugin into a legacy PCIe 1.1 board, bt in a newer PCIe2.0 configuration you could just plug in the 8 pin and leave the 6 pin free.

True and that's why the 75+75+100 makes sense to give it's 250W headroom. The GTX supposeldy draw a max of around 180-190W, but usually only draws around 140, which is why the GTX has the two 6 pin connectors for 75+75+75 since 150W alone would cause problems at the highest end, but likely would be fine for lighter apps/situations.

I know, but I'm talking about with cirrent PSU pin specs, not theoretically possible, I mean the whole thing could be powered by a two pin connector, but based on current PSU/pin design expectations 4 pin would only supply about 50W across one conector (IIRC they are spec for 8amp max loads per connector, but 'could' carry more). I think when designing something like this for OEMs I would suspect they are doing this based on 50W for 4pin, 75W for 6pin and 100W for 8pin, anything else would cause more havoc IMO.

don't forget the nonstick spray xD

I know people have cooked eggs over conroes before using the stock cooler and your everyday frying pan

Conroe is very efficient and cool running due to it's core march, but I remember seeing an arcticl with the cover picture showing a conroe with a frying pan and eggs over the stock cooler, but maybe it was just a picture, I'm pretty sure it has been done with the pentium extreme netburst, that ran hot with it being above 3ghz and 90nm with two cpus on the die

LOL!! Man, pretty funny you can do that, but them brown sauces scares me man, it's creepy

Yeah that's what I thought, the guys obviously is adept and computers, and made a good egg, but someone should teach him how to make a sandwich.

Looks like Worcester sause, like they eat in the UK, but Oie the sandwich looks weak.

Definitely, the sandwich seems very lacking in some areas

naw, I think the r600 will stand up better than qfx, I believe ati has something up their sleeves, otherwise they would have released it problems or not if they knew it couldn't demolish the gtx and then made a second revision quickly to get the bugs out, it's not fair to many customers, but plenty of software and some hardware makers including sony (cough....ps3...ship first...fix later....the newbs won't notice....cough...we'll be rich anyway...cough...chokes to death out of bad ethics 8O ) do that to make some profits to start off of

True, it could go either way, but for their sake, they better have a big product hidden up their sleeve

Well that seems stupid to me, why jeopardise your entire company because some launch dates are too far apart, I mean come on, how long has it been since the release of the 8800gtx? and still no 8600 ultra, I don't see why they would be complaining about that. Especially if their launch gets too close to the launch of the 8900gtx, then I don't know what amd will do

perhaps, but amd can claim whatever they want the same way intel made benchmarks against a single core opteron public, which in the first place is completely unfair because you can't compare apples to oranges, it's either top cpu vs top cpu, or at least dual vs dual on multithreaded apps, come one

Still, I'm dearly hoping amd makes money off this, for the sake of them staying in business

I take it you're really against the r600, I can see why you're upset, but until you've seen a single valid benchmark, I don't think it's fair for you to judge the card like that

Both the consumer and the producer, and then if amd goes down due to buying ati, then intel can charge whatever they want on their cpus unless nvidia actually goes through with manufacturing a cpu

Well, the mainstream 65nm cards ati has on the way should improve on that, and it's kinda like cpus that they will get very powerful, and then they'll start to push their thermal limits, and then the cpus will get a die shrink, and performance will be built up from there. Thing is, cpus don't always behave the same in different die sizes kinda how the k8 arch was designed for 130um and probably performed the best at that size if you used the latest core, so this is going to be interesting to see how the new gpus will perform in comparison to the current monster gpus

The future looks pretty bright imo for gfx cards, but only time can tell