Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

PHOTOS of AMD/ATI R600 Vidio card

Last response: in Graphics & Displays
Share
March 1, 2007 3:11:00 PM

here you go,! photos of the beast,its g9ot to beclose to 12" long and their saying it will wipe the 8800GTX off the map.Heres the link:
http://content.zdnet.com/2346-10741_22-57089.html
enjoy,!
March 1, 2007 3:29:14 PM

Wow that thing is huge....
Can't wait to see some benchmarks!
March 1, 2007 3:30:14 PM

Thanks Stan, but that image has been around for weeks...

Please don't spam it in every thread you reply to anymore, OK? :) 
Related resources
March 1, 2007 3:38:27 PM

please not again :roll:
March 1, 2007 3:40:51 PM

That is just a X1950XTX with a huge, ugly cooler strapped to it. 8O
March 1, 2007 3:53:56 PM

What i don't understand is this. How come this card (pictures) around for weeks and so far noone had a chance to other than taking pictures of the damn thing plug it in and benchmark it. Or maybe it is just a 12" long paperweight?
March 1, 2007 4:53:03 PM

I've got a nagging feeling that the R600 is going to be a disappointment. In this cutthroat race to be the best nobody's going to convince me that AMD/ATI were content to sit back and let the 8800 dominate for so long in DirectX9. I know the money is in the integrated and middle range cards but company prestige is also very important for a company. If R600 has been delayed again that means that there are certainly problems. Also, did anybody notice that the number of shaders jumped up by approximately by 25% in response to the rumoured amount of shaders on the 8900? I think it's a safe bet that ATI/AMD were surprised by the GeForce 8 series and are working their asses off, adding 25% more shaders is not as simple as just bolting as many as you can on to the chip. My 2c is that AMD/ATI are currently off-step on both CPU and GPU fronts and are losing face fast. Let's hope Barcelona and R700 change all that.
March 1, 2007 6:50:05 PM

Yeah, even more original than this thread. :roll:
March 1, 2007 6:53:05 PM

Forum Gigolo..... LOL :lol: 
March 1, 2007 7:00:44 PM

... :?:
March 1, 2007 7:03:57 PM

Prozac says: "So?"
March 1, 2007 7:04:35 PM

Apparently you have sex, on the forum, for money.
March 1, 2007 7:09:33 PM

Quote:
Apparently you have sex, on the forum, for money.


I didn't say it.... just drew attention to his forum "status" :wink:
March 1, 2007 7:13:17 PM

Quote:
Prozac says: "So?"


ROFL :lol: 
March 1, 2007 7:22:52 PM

Quote:
Apparently you have sex, on the forum, for money.

No, I'm not that desperate....
March 1, 2007 7:26:07 PM

I'll have sex for money... but only with beautiful chicks.

And it'll cost 'em.
March 1, 2007 7:28:36 PM

Quote:
but only with beautiful chicks.

That's the key. :p 
March 1, 2007 7:36:43 PM

That does not look like it blows nvidia out of the water.It does look to be a better performing card but not by such a large margin as to think it blows nvidia outta the water.

Dahak

AMD X2-4400+@2.6 S-939
EVGA NF4 SLI MB
2X EVGA 7950GT KO IN SLI
2X 512MB CRUCIAL BALLISTIX DDR500
WD300GIG HD
ACER 22IN WIDESCREEN LCD 1600X1200
THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER 850WATT PSU
COOLERMASTER MINI R120
3DMARK05 13,412
March 1, 2007 7:41:00 PM

Bah - I'd have sex with Rosey O'Donnel if she pays well enough... accompanied by a few porn mags and paper bags would spare any self-desecration.
March 1, 2007 8:06:14 PM

Quote:
I've got a nagging feeling that the R600 is going to be a disappointment. In this cutthroat race to be the best nobody's going to convince me that AMD/ATI were content to sit back and let the 8800 dominate for so long in DirectX9. I know the money is in the integrated and middle range cards but company prestige is also very important for a company. If R600 has been delayed again that means that there are certainly problems. Also, did anybody notice that the number of shaders jumped up by approximately by 25% in response to the rumoured amount of shaders on the 8900? I think it's a safe bet that ATI/AMD were surprised by the GeForce 8 series and are working their asses off, adding 25% more shaders is not as simple as just bolting as many as you can on to the chip. My 2c is that AMD/ATI are currently off-step on both CPU and GPU fronts and are losing face fast. Let's hope Barcelona and R700 change all that.

So, The R600 should have 25% more? = 128 * 1.25 = 160 shaders? What about the 8900 ? I know this is just guessing.
March 1, 2007 8:24:24 PM

The R600 was originally supposed to have 96, they had to increase them to 128 to combat the 8800 if I'm not mistaken. That puts them in the position of combatting a 4 month old technology just to keep up.

And as for the guy who said that Nvidia have been only at the front for 4 months, I don't know which planet you're from, but at the rate technology is moving on the one I'm living on 4 months is an age. Heck, everybody knows there's a 6 month cycle. Also, I didn't ask anybody to listen to me. Like I said, I was just putting in my 2 cents. If u can't stand criticism about ATI/AMD and the situation they've got themselves into maybe you should be visiting some other fanboy site. I put my money where the leading tech is at the moment, wherever that maybe, and only a loony can deny the fact Nvidia are way in front at the moment. The 8800GTS 320meg offers way more value for money than anything on the market at the moment, even when considering it as just a DX9 card, which it is not.

And to preempt you calling me an Nvidia fanboy, the thing that is really bugging me is that if Nvidia really leaves ATI behind is that the pace of technology will slow down due to the lack of competition. Which is one of the main reasons I'm really excited about Barcelona. The way things are looking, it should really give Core Duo a run for its money. Even if it doesn't surpass it, it should remind Intel that AMD is still in the game. That's the only way us consumers can be sure of getting the best value for money at all times.
March 1, 2007 8:47:50 PM

Quote:
its a good thing you don't expect anyone to listen to you cause i sure as hell ain't.


It is funny to read your comment and then your sig :lol: 
March 1, 2007 9:16:20 PM

Quote:
What i don't understand is this. How come this card (pictures) around for weeks and so far noone had a chance to other than taking pictures of the damn thing plug it in and benchmark it. Or maybe it is just a 12" long paperweight?

N..D..A
March 1, 2007 9:26:38 PM

Quote:
The R600 was originally supposed to have 96, they had to increase them to 128 to combat the 8800 if I'm not mistaken. That puts them in the position of combatting a 4 month old technology just to keep up.

And as for the guy who said that Nvidia have been only at the front for 4 months, I don't know which planet you're from, but at the rate technology is moving on the one I'm living on 4 months is an age. Heck, everybody knows there's a 6 month cycle. Also, I didn't ask anybody to listen to me. Like I said, I was just putting in my 2 cents. If u can't stand criticism about ATI/AMD and the situation they've got themselves into maybe you should be visiting some other fanboy site. I put my money where the leading tech is at the moment, wherever that maybe, and only a loony can deny the fact Nvidia are way in front at the moment. The 8800GTS 320meg offers way more value for money than anything on the market at the moment, even when considering it as just a DX9 card, which it is not.

And to preempt you calling me an Nvidia fanboy, the thing that is really bugging me is that if Nvidia really leaves ATI behind is that the pace of technology will slow down due to the lack of competition. Which is one of the main reasons I'm really excited about Barcelona. The way things are looking, it should really give Core Duo a run for its money. Even if it doesn't surpass it, it should remind Intel that AMD is still in the game. That's the only way us consumers can be sure of getting the best value for money at all times.


actually, the rumors said first 64 complex shaders for quite a bit of time, then they seen the 128 number elsewhere...
I have yet to see 96
March 1, 2007 10:42:12 PM

Quote:
The R600 was originally supposed to have 96, they had to increase them to 128 to combat the 8800 if I'm not mistaken. That puts them in the position of combatting a 4 month old technology just to keep up.

And as for the guy who said that Nvidia have been only at the front for 4 months, I don't know which planet you're from, but at the rate technology is moving on the one I'm living on 4 months is an age. Heck, everybody knows there's a 6 month cycle. Also, I didn't ask anybody to listen to me. Like I said, I was just putting in my 2 cents. If u can't stand criticism about ATI/AMD and the situation they've got themselves into maybe you should be visiting some other fanboy site. I put my money where the leading tech is at the moment, wherever that maybe, and only a loony can deny the fact Nvidia are way in front at the moment. The 8800GTS 320meg offers way more value for money than anything on the market at the moment, even when considering it as just a DX9 card, which it is not.

And to preempt you calling me an Nvidia fanboy, the thing that is really bugging me is that if Nvidia really leaves ATI behind is that the pace of technology will slow down due to the lack of competition. Which is one of the main reasons I'm really excited about Barcelona. The way things are looking, it should really give Core Duo a run for its money. Even if it doesn't surpass it, it should remind Intel that AMD is still in the game. That's the only way us consumers can be sure of getting the best value for money at all times.


Thanks for the info. I can understand the ATI might have more advanced shaders, so 96 may not be less than 128.
I also never called anyone a fanboy of anykind. (Even Mad Mod Mike)
March 1, 2007 11:18:35 PM

Quote:
That is just a X1950XTX with a huge, ugly cooler strapped to it. 8O


Hey, hes right!
March 1, 2007 11:49:49 PM

I will be dropping one of those in my system If they ever come out.
a b U Graphics card
March 2, 2007 12:19:54 AM

Quote:
I will be dropping one of those in my system If they ever come out.


no you are dropping an 8800 in my sys first :twisted:
March 2, 2007 12:21:12 AM

Lies. :twisted:
a b U Graphics card
March 2, 2007 12:25:02 AM

i have 200$ to spend right now! i have thought of a 7900
or x1900.

but i can wait a little longer for an 8800.
stuck between the 320mb and 640mb version :?
March 2, 2007 12:27:04 AM

Get the XT one :twisted:

I would go for the 640mb one, unless I couldn't pay the extra $$$.
March 2, 2007 12:29:44 AM

I will order this for you tomorrow :wink:
a b U Graphics card
March 2, 2007 12:35:48 AM

Quote:
Get the XT one :twisted:

I would go for the 640mb one, unless I couldn't pay the extra $$$.


the xt one 8O maybe an ati xt :lol: 

everett is gonna help me out on the 8800 and its probably gonna
be the 640 version.

may be ordering one this weekend :D  ?

(note to everyone on this forum!!)

if i get the 8800gts640mb this weekend. Wait one week as it will drop in price. thats my luck :cry:  .
a b U Graphics card
March 2, 2007 12:37:55 AM

Quote:
I will order this for you tomorrow :wink:


and i got 200frogskins for ya :wink:
March 2, 2007 5:50:11 AM

My bad, the original number was 64, u're right. As for StrangeStranger, I guess you must be one of those people that never accepts facts they don't like even if they're sitting right on top of your face and crapping on you. I've seen some of your former posts, u've got quite a reputation I must say, and not one that I envy. Care to argue my comment constructively by any chance? Cause you haven't said a single phrase that goes against my argument in any post you've wasted.
March 2, 2007 5:53:36 AM

Quote:


(note to everyone on this forum!!)

if i get the 8800gts640mb this weekend. Wait one week as it will drop in price. thats my luck :cry:  .


You can take comfort from the fact that you sure as hell are not alone. Scan computers always has a select range of products that sell at a discount for a week and it happened to me for 2 weeks straight. I lost a $60 discount on my monitor and a $10 discount on my mouse. To tell you the truth now I'm scared of buying the graphic card.
March 2, 2007 6:01:57 AM

Quote:

I also never called anyone a fanboy of anykind. (Even Mad Mod Mike)


No problem m8, told you I was preempting you. :)  No hard feelings then. And to be absolutely honest my main fear about R600 not being competitive is that prices won't come down.

On a sidenote, I think in a way it would be good if performance were to reach a plateau. It would give some time and motivation for the game developers to get better used to DirectX 10. I was really disappointed to hear that there are still games that are coming in the second half of this game that are still primarily Directx 9 (e.g. Empire Earth III).
a b U Graphics card
March 2, 2007 7:40:01 AM

Quote:

if i get the 8800gts640mb this weekend. Wait one week as it will drop in price. thats my luck :cry:  .


Still don't know why you're getting the 640MB now, especially if you're worried about a price drop (already saving $80 with the 320), but either way it's a good card and when you're done, just keep looking forward until the S3 DX10/10.1 cards come out and put the hurt on the GF8800. :twisted:


:oops:  OOOPs edit, that's saving $80, not just $70, my mistake, was going based on last time we discussed this, prices have changed, didn't look to recalculate.
March 2, 2007 7:53:50 AM

You really think that S3 will pose any real danger to Nvidia? Low-end perhaps but not in the enthusiast bracket. I was going for the 640 just for some future-proofing, little as it may be. Textures are always going to get bigger, and if I remember correctly it helps even when you're pumping up the antialiasing etc, correct me if I'm wrong.
a b U Graphics card
March 2, 2007 8:59:33 AM

When MEGAtextures becomes a problem, there'll be more issues with those cards than just the 320MB. I don't think it's worth the $80 difference (BTW the $70 was the first time we looked at that now the difference is $10 more which makes it even more favourable the other way IMO), but many others disagree, and I only point out that if Sirheck is worried about the price dropping, the 640MB version will drop quicker and further if there's anything to precipitate that drop (people won't care about 320v640 when offloading), and IMO if trying to future proof a better bet is saving the coin for a new platform. Usually when the 640MB makes a difference, it's in the extremely high resolutions w/ AA, and I know Sirheck is looking below 19x12 so even high AA won't pose much of a problem because it' more efficient than before with far better memory compression than the GF7 series (another area where nV improved the GF8 to come up to ATi's level). The only 2 questionmarks IMO are DX10 and GPU-physics, both of which's impact on memory isn't fully known.
To me anyone concerned about price be it the outlay initially or the drop in prices, the 320MB is the way to go, if you have to ponder it the 320MB is your answer IMO, if you don't care then there may be hidden potential in the 640MB, but then again, why not just get a cheap GTX for the extra money which is more easily seen being significantly different now and in the future.

As for S3, either you get it or you don't. :mrgreen:
March 2, 2007 10:54:59 AM

Quote:
I know Sirheck is looking below 19x12


yes i mostly game on my computer monitor, was 10x7 now 16x10
but i may be hooking my computer up to my 19x12 hdtv
more often as it looks like i will be ordering a gts probably the 640mb version today.

edit; oops i am under my brothers acct.
this is sirheck.
March 2, 2007 10:58:49 AM

Quote:


(note to everyone on this forum!!)

if i get the 8800gts640mb this weekend. Wait one week as it will drop in price. thats my luck :cry:  .


You can take comfort from the fact that you sure as hell are not alone. Scan computers always has a select range of products that sell at a discount for a week and it happened to me for 2 weeks straight. I lost a $60 discount on my monitor and a $10 discount on my mouse. To tell you the truth now I'm scared of buying the graphic card.

yeah my polk audio speakers dropped from 600$
to 300$ in less than a month after i got them :twisted:
March 2, 2007 12:02:13 PM

All arguments aside, the real issue, which was mentioned is the cost of these video cards. No competition, charge what ever you want.

That is were we are at till AMD/ATI get off their duffs and gets out a competitor for the nVidia card. The extra month, well, I hope that assures a decently competitive card. No competition, no price drops, can not afford better stuff.

For my money, the best card is the one that does what I want for less. Ya, there are some differences between the two rivals products on comparable boards. But, if generally, they perform about the same (ya know, a few fps difference or what ever), cost is the issue. because as far as I can tell, both are very reliable.

I am not looking for a plaque on my wall that awarded to me because my build got 1 fps more than everyone else's. function is everything. It it meets my needs and functions as promised. it is a good system.
March 2, 2007 12:34:02 PM

There's absolutely no reason to bring a DX10 card to the market now. Completely pointless. When DX10 games hit the market and drivers are fixed up, people will be looking to buy a DX10 card. They'll go online, and find that ATI just released their latest version, 6 months after Nvidia. "Got to be a newer card then, huh? I'll buy that one".

ATI might be smarter than we think. Use the time now to perfect the new cards. Release them when the market is ready to actually buy them, and then you have a far better card than you do today.
March 2, 2007 12:37:09 PM

Is that a R600 in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
!