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Hi, im looking at purchasing a Direct X 10 Card NVIDIA 8800 GTS. My problem is i play a lot of older games, predominately Unreal Tournament 99.

I am a little worried about backwards compatability with this game and others from this era. Has anyone here tried to play UT 99 with an 8800? If not would someone be willing to download the demo if i gave them a link and try it out for me to see how it goes?

edit* heres a link for the demo if anyone is willing to try it for me.
http://www.download.com/Original-U [...] g=pdp_prod

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Hi, im looking at purchasing a Direct X 10 Card NVIDIA 8800 GTS. My problem is i play a lot of older games, predominately Unreal Tournament 99.

I am a little worried about backwards compatability with this game and others from this era. Has anyone here tried to play UT 99 with an 8800? If not would someone be willing to download the demo if i gave them a link and try it out for me to see how it goes?

edit* heres a link for the demo if anyone is willing to try it for me.
http://www.download.com/Original-U [...] g=pdp_prod


The 8800 is WAY overkill those older games. I don't think compatability is a problem, just get good drivers. Worry most about the OS. Games for Win98 might not run on Win XP for example. Or XP games might not run well on Vista, etc.

Reply to enewmen

im still using xp, and plan on doing so for a while yet and ut 99 runs fine on xp. i just wanted someone to give it a go and see what fps its running at etc to ease my mind.

ill also be playing a lot of new games therefore the need for the dx10 card, plus with the amount of moeny ive spent building my new system i cant see any point getting anything less than this.

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im still using xp, and plan on doing so for a while yet and ut 99 runs fine on xp. i just wanted someone to give it a go and see what fps its running at etc to ease my mind.

ill also be playing a lot of new games therefore the need for the dx10 card, plus with the amount of moeny ive spent building my new system i cant see any point getting anything less than this.


If you are looking for max fps in that game, your CPU will be the bottleneck - unless your CPU is very high-end.

Reply to enewmen

nah the cpu is fine. E6600. im not worried about performance as ut99 can be run with onboard gfx. im just worried about compatability with the new cards. i just wanted to make sure it definitly ran ok with these new cards.

Reply to HotStepper

From what I understand, the 8800's are backwards compatible with DirectX so they should run older games well, I hope so because I have just bought mine and I like alot of the older games too, I have not had the chance to try them out yet though.

Reply to DukeDave

any chance you would be willing to download this demo and give it a try for me? its only 50mb.

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yeah.. the GTS is fine but..

Where r those 8600?!?

<-- not a big fan of waiting..

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im still using xp, and plan on doing so for a while yet and ut 99 runs fine on xp. i just wanted someone to give it a go and see what fps its running at etc to ease my mind.

ill also be playing a lot of new games therefore the need for the dx10 card, plus with the amount of moeny ive spent building my new system i cant see any point getting anything less than this.


If you are looking for max fps in that game, your CPU will be the bottleneck - unless your CPU is very high-end.

From what you told me, I don't see any problems and all should work fine.. Just surprised you're running an old game on a high-end system. I think you will get the numbers you are looking for,

Reply to enewmen

yeah, im looking to play new games as well. however the old ones are my favourites and im still heavily involved in the online ut community so yeah. looking to build something that will play both old and new. hopefully it works out.

still would love to know if someone trys the demo out for me though. cheers.

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yeah, im looking to play new games as well. however the old ones are my favourites and im still heavily involved in the online ut community so yeah. looking to build something that will play both old and new. hopefully it works out.

still would love to know if someone trys the demo out for me though. cheers.



I have the full version of UT, I will install it and see how it goes for you.

EDIT: I will have to find it first !! :lol:

Reply to DukeDave

thats great. thanks a lot.

Reply to HotStepper

It should run fine , the only compatibility problems that happen are when you switch to a new OS .

Like some of the older games which play on win 98 will not play on Xp .

You should be fine. 8)

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im still using xp, and plan on doing so for a while yet and ut 99 runs fine on xp. i just wanted someone to give it a go and see what fps its running at etc to ease my mind.

ill also be playing a lot of new games therefore the need for the dx10 card, plus with the amount of moeny ive spent building my new system i cant see any point getting anything less than this.


If you are looking for max fps in that game, your CPU will be the bottleneck - unless your CPU is very high-end.

From what you told me, I don't see any problems and all should work fine.. Just surprised you're running an old game on a high-end system. I think you will get the numbers you are looking for,

It's Unreal Tournament, everyone should still have that game on their HDD :D

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im still using xp, and plan on doing so for a while yet and ut 99 runs fine on xp. i just wanted someone to give it a go and see what fps its running at etc to ease my mind.

ill also be playing a lot of new games therefore the need for the dx10 card, plus with the amount of moeny ive spent building my new system i cant see any point getting anything less than this.


If you are looking for max fps in that game, your CPU will be the bottleneck - unless your CPU is very high-end.

From what you told me, I don't see any problems and all should work fine.. Just surprised you're running an old game on a high-end system. I think you will get the numbers you are looking for,

It's Unreal Tournament, everyone should still have that game on their HDD :D

I should dig up Quake "1". I was getting 40 fps on the 3DFX Monster1 (4 megs RAM). Wonder what I can do now with the C2D and 8800 ?

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I do...it just has a "...2004" tacked on the end. :lol:

Reply to Kronos

The cool thing is, I was just playing the original UT the other day, and it still looks great even today. The poly counts are low and the textures are less detailed, to be certain, but they were used so well.

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Just surprised you're running an old game on a high-end system. I think you will get the numbers you are looking for,



What's the alternative? I still enjoy Daggerfall and Arena. I used to keep a P166 with Win 98 around just for that and the old Might and Magics. Now, I either play under XP when they actually run, or I play under Dosbox.

Old games in any genre have their charm, it's sometimes about better gameplay, despite the aging graphics. Other times, it's just a trip down memory lane for a few hours every month or so.

Now, when I get my Vista upgrade in the mail in about six weeks, I guess I'll have to set up a dual boot with XP until a new Dosbox arrives that's compatible.

The only issue I've ever noted with an older game and a newer card was when Lands of Lore 2 had to run in 3D software mode because it didn't recognize my Radeon 9800 Pro as a 3D card. I should install it again and see if it recognizes the 7600GS, after all, I think it was Nvidia that bought out Voodoo years ago.

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Or XP games might not run well on Vista, etc.



If your a gamer nothing runs well on Vista.

Reply to ZOldDude

My buddy and I still play quake one on a regular basis. We thought it was the best game ever and haven't found another game that is as much fun. I tried to get him to start playing TFC, but he doesn't handle that game as well. (he uses the arrow keys to move, and the ctrl/spacebar to shoot. He doesn't last long against a person who moves with wasd, and aims with a mouse.) So for the record, most of my days off are spent playing Quake one, and TFC. (I also play Diablo2 with my wife. These are fitting games for a 3500+ with a x1800xt...)

I have Halo, Unreal, farcry, FEAR, and some other more recent games, but I haven't finished a one of them. I get a few levels in then get bored. Nothing has held my attention like TFC, it is the best game "forever." Supreme Commander might make me put it on hold, and C&C3 should for sure. I can't wait for Tiberium wars to come out.

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If you like old games, try Pharoah or Empire Earth (needs a 3d card). Runs well on a Win98 Pentium 133.
Still one of my favorates.

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Or XP games might not run well on Vista, etc.



If your a gamer nothing runs well on Vista.

That sounds like the outcry when Windows 95 came out. There were all sorts of fixes promoted to get DOS games to run well, or run at all. Eventually good games came out for Windows and gamers loved Windows 98.

Which leads me to think that Vista might be to XP what ME was to 98. Many won't upgrade to Vista unless a game they want requires DX10 and won't support DX9 legacy mode. Microsoft titles like Halo 3 will definitely do so.

If Microsoft is coming out with a new OS in two years, then people will probably go that route. By then, most of the Vista bugs will be worked out, games designed for Vista will run under the new OS and quad cores will be mainstream with dual cores budget. Maybe we'll all go 64 bit by then too?

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If you like old games, try Pharoah or Empire Earth (needs a 3d card). Runs well on a Win98 Pentium 133.
Still one of my favorates.




Pharaoh was very good game, another classic from the oooold times.. I reocmmend is.. dune2 ;)
*laughs*
I remember spending lots of time on that game

<3 Sonic tanks

Reply to tamalero

If ALL you play is UT1999, you don't need a Dx10 card. Any cheap laotop will play that game at good fps even. A GeF8800 would probably puch over a 1000 fps, which is totally useless.

Reply to NightlySputnik

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Or XP games might not run well on Vista, etc.



If your a gamer nothing runs well on Vista.

I have XP AND Vista Home Premium 64-bit and most game play very well on Vista. I just reinstall Oblivion on Vista 64-bit (that ran like a turtle on my previous Northwood 3.0GHz + Radeon 9800Pro PC) and never experienced a crash yet.

Most poeple that shout at Vista now are the same that did when XP came out. Guess what, they all use XP now :twisted: . Vista is not perfect, but getting my new PC 2 weeks ago I couldn't go only with XP. Upgrading isn't worth it I think, but for a new PC the advantages are sufficient to at least go dual-boot like I did.

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If you like old games, try Pharoah or Empire Earth (needs a 3d card). Runs well on a Win98 Pentium 133.
Still one of my favorates.



My wife plays those kinds of games all the time, but I don't care for them. The only one I even remotely liked was the original Civ. Other then that, those games are junk...

I forgot to mention I have CCS64 on my machine also. Many merry hours are also wasted by playing old C64 games like M.U.L.E., Lords of conquest, Space trader, etc. Don't worry all, Supreme commander and C&C3 will make my computer run through its paces.

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If you like old games, try Pharoah or Empire Earth (needs a 3d card). Runs well on a Win98 Pentium 133.
Still one of my favorates.



My wife plays those kinds of games all the time, but I don't care for them. The only one I even remotely liked was the original Civ. Other then that, those games are junk...

I forgot to mention I have CCS64 on my machine also. Many merry hours are also wasted by playing old C64 games like M.U.L.E., Lords of conquest, Space trader, etc. Don't worry all, Supreme commander and C&C3 will make my computer run through its paces.
C64 games like M.U.L.E. ? Ouch, 8O

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I've got an E6600 and an 8800GTS, and UT rocks on it. If you use unreal editor, you won't believe how fast and smooth it runs.

Just for info, you'll need to run the resolution as high as your monitor will allow, and also turn on ALL the eye candy, or it'll seem really jumpy. I think they're actually too fast for UT. But if you run everything all the way, it looks and runs like butter.

UT is dated, but oh, well. My eight-year-old daughter has just now gotten into lan-gaming and she loves it. Brings back some of the old feelings, like it felt when UT seemed astounding.

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I notice you didn't mention Half-Life 2. It's the only one I've finished, and I've done it twice.

Reply to baddog1

You don't like mule? That game is awesome. I grew up playing that game with my dad and a couple of brothers. Always entertained us for a couple of hours.

Baddog, I finished halflife 1, but I was listing old games I like to play. Half life 2 (which I don't own and haven't played) wouldn't make the list because its to new. I need to get off my lazy butt and get it however, as I want to get Halflife2. Not becuase of half life 2 or portal, but I WANT team fortress 2.

Reply to 4745454b

You just brought back some great memory. How frustrating was it when your friend took your square just before you did. And how great was it when you got the great farm one when your friend press to quick and got basicly nothing.

:D The good old days.

Reply to NightlySputnik

I preferred the buy/sell part of the game. Sitting just off the sell line taunting the miners to cough up lots of money or no food for them. Waiting till the last possible second to jump down and sell them almost enough. LOL.

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You don't like mule? That game is awesome. I grew up playing that game with my dad and a couple of brothers. Always entertained us for a couple of hours.

Baddog, I finished halflife 1, but I was listing old games I like to play. Half life 2 (which I don't own and haven't played) wouldn't make the list because its to new. I need to get off my lazy butt and get it however, as I want to get Halflife2. Not becuase of half life 2 or portal, but I WANT team fortress 2.


I like MULE. Just surprised someone still has a working copy.

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Which leads me to think that Vista might be to XP what ME was to 98. Many won't upgrade to Vista unless a game they want requires DX10 and won't support DX9 legacy mode. Microsoft titles like Halo 3 will definitely do so.



Not to be mean, but enough with retarded analogies. Pray tell me, how do you draw a parallel with a minor graphical update and a number of CE-friendly features, and a major core redesign? And also, how many games really had a ME vs. 98 as a system requirement. Please take me down that slippery slope with you.

Please think or read before you post. Many people actually believe the BS you're feeding them.

Reply to russki
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I agree, I doubt anything out right now won't run on Vista, but it may run a little slower. Which is a big whoop if you're running an 8800/e6600. I want DX10, but why would I need it now? I really didn't upgrade just for vista - everything I've got screams now. I didn't know just how slow my old bugger was till I got my c2d (though my oldest daughter loves it now that it's hers, and it's cleaned up and fresh). When Crysis comes out, I'll probably dual-boot till service pack one at the earliest.

P.S.

Since ME was 98 with a facelift, that particular analogy doesn't really fit.

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