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cimpercee   03-06-2007 at 02:45:06 PM

Where will I benifit more when it comes to FPS?GPU or CPU because Im looking forward to change one of this.Im on a tight budget.
if i will be changing CPU, it will be athlon 3500+
for GPU, gigabyte 7600GT.
I know i will benifit from both,I prefer FPS. Which of the 2 will give me more?
thanks!

Right now i have a 3200 sempron am2,gigabyte GA-m6v1me s2 Mobo 2x512MB dual channel ddr667, 350w PSU,80GB sata and a 7600GS by gigabyte.

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Cleeve   03-06-2007 at 03:18:25 PM
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7600 GS to 7600 GT will give you more FPS, but if you can afford it it's worth the extra $ for the 7900 GS or X1950 PRO...

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jeff_2087   03-06-2007 at 03:19:15 PM
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CPU for now. Though you might be better off saving up for something faster than the 3500+/7600.

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SciFiMan   03-06-2007 at 03:22:14 PM
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Are you picking the 3500+ because it will work in your existing mobo? Is that a PCI-e system?

The short answer is it depends on the game. Some use more CPU and some use more GPU, and some can max them both. What types of games do you typically play? Shooters are the most intensive, and where FPS are more critical. And there is also personal preference as to what each person can settle for.

As a general rule, it's better to have more GPU and let the CPU bottleneck if it comes down to it. As long as the difference isn't extreme of course. Strive for a balance.

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Cleeve   03-06-2007 at 03:32:47 PM
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I strongly disagree with these fellows.

An Athlon64 3500+ isn't going to see much of an increase in FPS over a Sempron 3200+, guys.
I'd estimate 5% in most games, hell the OP probably wouldn't even notice it.

But a videocard will make a dramatic difference, allowing for higher resolutions to be used, maybe even some AA.

There might be some CPU heavy games out there but even if he's a flight sim fan he'd still get a bigger kick out of going to a better card...

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Dr_asik   03-06-2007 at 03:49:57 PM
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In games you'll certainly see more of a difference with a video card upgrade, but I don't think going from 7600GS to the GT is worth the 100$ it'll cost you. Either make a serious upgrade, or stick with what you have, otherwise it's a waste of money IMO.

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apache_lives   03-06-2007 at 03:58:26 PM
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a sempron 3000 is quicker then most of the P4's (B class like 3.06 with ht), so for now thats ok.

Upgrading from a 7600GS to a 7600GT isnt an upgrade - try for something with more guts then those two if your unhappy with the performance...

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jeff_2087   03-06-2007 at 04:07:01 PM
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An Athlon64 3500+ isn't going to see much of an increase in FPS over a Sempron 3200+, guys.



It's true, but neither of the options are particularly good. The 7600GS is just an underclocked 7600GT. 400MHz vs 560MHz, 800MHz vs 1400MHz on memory. I imagine a lot of that can be recovered with an overclock.

If he upgrades the CPU to something decent now, he can at least save up and replace the 7600GS when we see budget DX10 cards come out. But not the 3500+ IMO. Something like the 2.4GHz 4000+ is only like $10 more expensive, still cheaper than a 7600GT, and an Athlon 64 at 2.4GHz would be noticeably better than a 1.8GHz Sempron.

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Cleeve   03-06-2007 at 04:10:18 PM
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I'll agree there, that's why I recommend going at least to an X1950 PRO or 7900 GS.

Although, I will mention, overclocked 7600 GS' don't do very well, the memory's too slow. Even voltmodded they don't give fantastic results from what I've seen... the core goes up well, but they have cheapo memory that really holds them back, especially on that 128-bit bus.

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jeff_2087   03-06-2007 at 04:12:19 PM
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Yeah I just realized its GDDR2. That kinda sucks. Although understandable, they have to be able to produce it cheaper somehow.

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Gustafarian   03-06-2007 at 04:14:01 PM
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Either make a serious upgrade, or stick with what you have



Seconded. Unless it is free (or you make a profit on ebay) you should save for a while. Your upgrade will make very little difference.

I am total hypocrite by the way. I love upgrading :oops:

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slashzapper   03-06-2007 at 04:16:42 PM
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You should upgrade your graphics card.

Follow Cleeve's advice . He gives good advice 8)

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cimpercee   05-01-2007 at 07:54:14 PM
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Hi Again!

Now that DX10 Budget cards are available, I am planning to Upgrade the Video Card, and mybe in a couple of months, make it 2 GIG..

Again the question, will it handle 8600GTS, I dont exactly know what is the counterpart of x1950pro on Gforce Cards. Im still stuck of my CPU, that sempron 3200+, I prefer more FPS for a while.

Whats the least CPU that would fairly handle 2 gigs of ram + 8600GTS or GT maybe + Vista...

Is this right, 8600gts = 7900GTX, 8600GT = 7900GT and 8500 = 7600GT..

Thank you for all the replies.. :D

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oswold   05-01-2007 at 08:08:50 PM
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Thats not the case.

From most of the benchmarks we've seen its more like:

8600gts performs worse that the 7900gs and x1950pro in most cases
8600gt performs near the 7600gt
8500gt is utter crap

And these new cards are more expensive than their DX9 price equivilent cards.

And there is no reason for a DX10 card at the moment, unless it performs well in DX9 games.

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Track   05-01-2007 at 09:22:54 PM
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Quote :

I strongly disagree with these fellows.

An Athlon64 3500+ isn't going to see much of an increase in FPS over a Sempron 3200+, guys.
I'd estimate 5% in most games, hell the OP probably wouldn't even notice it.

But a videocard will make a dramatic difference, allowing for higher resolutions to be used, maybe even some AA.

There might be some CPU heavy games out there but even if he's a flight sim fan he'd still get a bigger kick out of going to a better card...



I use the word "beneficial" to explain why the GPU is the only thing that actually matters in a PC. The rest just needs to be good enough as to not bottleneck the GPU so that it could do all the work.
As in the GPU is the only beneficial component in ur PC and u should ALWAYS upgrade it and only it unless some other part is bottlenecking it in a way that it does not pass 60 FPS to it, for it to render.

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