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The one that scares me??

More costume options.

Great, even more time lost in the character creation process.

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    "Marcel Beaudoin" <mbeauINVALID@sympaINVALIDtico.ca> wrote in message
    news:Xns95F1852D215DEmbeausympaticoca@130.133.1.4...
    | http://www.cityofheroes.com/features_update7.html
    |
    | The one that scares me??
    |
    | More costume options.
    |
    | Great, even more time lost in the character creation process.
    |
    | --
    | Marcel

    Winners in the Arena matches gain recognition and the losers gain valuable
    battle experience without earning character debt.

    *recognition* = INFLUENCE points I assume. Maybe a betting match situation?


    THIS is what I am eager for...

    Players may select from hundreds of new costume choices to outfit their
    Heroes with the latest styles from around the world!

    New Costume Selections!
    The award-winning character creation system has expanded to include all-new
    costume choices for the players to customize their heroes!

    * A robust selection of Anime-inspired costumes add another level of
    depth to the characters created by the players.

    Body & Face Scaling Feature!
    Players can break the mold even further by utilizing this new addition to
    the character creation system.

    * New face and head types provide players with the ability to create
    original hero designs that are truly unique to the super-powered character
    genre.
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    Marcel Beaudoin <mbeauINVALID@sympaINVALIDtico.ca> looked up from
    reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good,
    the signs say:

    >http://www.cityofheroes.com/features_update7.html
    >
    >The one that scares me??
    >
    >More costume options.
    >
    >Great, even more time lost in the character creation process.

    New costume options, some even anime styled.
    Body sliders.

    All i can say is, it's about friggen time. For all the options it has
    there aren't that many combinations that actually look good.

    I forsee a large increase in anime-type schoolgirl heroines once this
    comes out.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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    Marcel Beaudoin <mbeauINVALID@sympaINVALIDtico.ca> wrote:
    > Great, even more time lost in the character creation process.

    Well, it's not like you have to redesign your outfit every session. I kind
    of like tinkering up a new look - but I've decided to concentrate on two
    alts instead of filling up all my slots with 5-10 level tinkertoys. :)

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    On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:19:11 -0500, George Johnson <matrix29@voyager.net> wrote:

    > *recognition* = INFLUENCE points I assume. Maybe a betting match
    > situation?

    Could be. Or, given that the preview also mentions a ranking system,
    it could mean it in the more literal sense of the word, too (or
    instead).

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    Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:
    > New costume options, some even anime styled

    Oh, joy. :P

    > Body sliders.

    Wow, you mean we can play females whose t*ts DON'T get in the way of
    everything?

    > I forsee a large increase in anime-type schoolgirl heroines once this
    > comes out.

    That's okay. We'll have PvP to show them what we think. :)

    --
    -= Victory Server =-
    -= Shenanigunner: Level 35 Natural Tanker, Fire/SS, M =-
    -= Sgt Glory B: Level 16 Tech Blaster, Electric/Energy, F =-
    -= Duke Miasma: Level 8 Science Controller, Grav/Force, H =-
    -= the Nonpareil: Level 7 Magic Defender, Emp/Rad, F =-
    -= Mean Mr Mustard: Level 7 Natural Tanker, Inv/Stone, H =-
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    On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:19:11 -0500, George Johnson <matrix29@voyager.net>
    wrote:

    > * A robust selection of Anime-inspired costumes add another level of
    > depth to the characters created by the players.

    Yay! Hopefully there will be cat ears for males now. And more long hairs.

    Trenchcoats would be very welcome too.

    Probably no wings, or they would have mentioned it all over the place.

    --
    "When someone starts bragging about how much debt they have, it's not a
    good sign." -G
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    Magnus Itland <itlandm@online.no> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    >On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:19:11 -0500, George Johnson <matrix29@voyager.net>
    >wrote:
    >
    >> * A robust selection of Anime-inspired costumes add another level of
    >> depth to the characters created by the players.
    >
    >Yay! Hopefully there will be cat ears for males now. And more long hairs.
    >
    >Trenchcoats would be very welcome too.
    >
    >Probably no wings, or they would have mentioned it all over the place.

    They said way back when that wings would only be coming on the future
    "winged AT" due to animation issues (I'm assuming that's the Avilan one
    mentioned.)

    Hope the winged AT is the next epic one to come out.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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    On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:56:44 +0100, Magnus Itland <itlandm@online.no>
    wrote:

    >On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:19:11 -0500, George Johnson <matrix29@voyager.net>
    >wrote:
    >
    >> * A robust selection of Anime-inspired costumes add another level of
    >> depth to the characters created by the players.
    >
    >Yay! Hopefully there will be cat ears for males now. And more long hairs.
    >
    >Trenchcoats would be very welcome too.
    >
    >Probably no wings, or they would have mentioned it all over the place.

    Pretty sure trenchcoats would have been as well, as they're up there
    among the top requested costume features.

    --
    Dark Tyger

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    "Magnus Itland" <itlandm@online.no> wrote in message
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    > On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:19:11 -0500, George Johnson <matrix29@voyager.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > * A robust selection of Anime-inspired costumes add another level of
    > > depth to the characters created by the players.
    >
    > Yay! Hopefully there will be cat ears for males now. And more long hairs.
    >
    > Trenchcoats would be very welcome too.
    >
    > Probably no wings, or they would have mentioned it all over the place.


    All I want is a "starfield" texture for clothing...


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    Vorlonagent

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    Shenanigunner <nsp@nitrosyncretic.kom> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    >Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:
    >> New costume options, some even anime styled
    >
    >Oh, joy. :P

    Ayep.

    >> Body sliders.
    >
    >Wow, you mean we can play females whose t*ts DON'T get in the way of
    >everything?

    I hope so. Instead of the City of Women with Back Problems we currently
    exist in.

    >> I forsee a large increase in anime-type schoolgirl heroines once this
    >> comes out.
    >
    >That's okay. We'll have PvP to show them what we think. :)

    Not really, since pvp is consensual.
    Wasn't talking about schoolgirl uniform type, just the anime "standard"
    of the teenage heroine who fights crime out of school hours.

    It's hard to make a "small and cute" heroine, with a chest that belongs
    in a strip club.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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    Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote in
    news:ltl201hg5f6pbh6sjd66fugpfi6d94bsgd@4ax.com:

    <SNIP>

    > I forsee a large increase in anime-type schoolgirl heroines once
    > this comes out.
    >
    > Xocyll

    Great.

    More clones.

    More GenericHeroXXX (replace XXX is the next higher number, since I saw
    GenericHero243 yesterday).

    More lawsuits?
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    J Anlee <janlee@ameritech.net> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    >Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote in
    >news:ltl201hg5f6pbh6sjd66fugpfi6d94bsgd@4ax.com:
    >
    ><SNIP>
    >
    >> I forsee a large increase in anime-type schoolgirl heroines once
    >> this comes out.
    >>
    >> Xocyll
    >
    >Great.
    >
    >More clones.

    Possibly, but not necessarily.
    I make anime-type heroines now, as in small and cute, I don't use anime
    names for them.

    >More GenericHeroXXX (replace XXX is the next higher number, since I saw
    >GenericHero243 yesterday).

    If people are stupid enough to use widely known names, they deserve to
    be GSs.

    >More lawsuits?

    Unlikely, since there is no competing product, unlike Marvel and their
    planned Marvel-superhero MMORPG.
    Even DC isn't suing, so I doubt the anime folks would.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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    On 2 Feb 2005 18:05:16 GMT, Marcel Beaudoin
    <mbeauINVALID@sympaINVALIDtico.ca> wrote:

    >http://www.cityofheroes.com/features_update7.html
    >

    Arenas in Galaxy, Talos and Peregrine - so that's what those
    construction sites are for! I had been wondersing about that.
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    On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:46:01 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:

    >Marcel Beaudoin <mbeauINVALID@sympaINVALIDtico.ca> looked up from
    >reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good,
    >the signs say:
    >
    >>http://www.cityofheroes.com/features_update7.html
    >>
    >>The one that scares me??
    >>
    >>More costume options.
    >>
    >>Great, even more time lost in the character creation process.
    >
    >New costume options, some even anime styled.
    >Body sliders.
    >
    >All i can say is, it's about friggen time. For all the options it has
    >there aren't that many combinations that actually look good.
    >
    >I forsee a large increase in anime-type schoolgirl heroines once this
    >comes out.

    Doesn't that need a 'Hammer' melee set first?
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    On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:50:24 +1100, Greg Johnson <greg.gsj@gmail.com> wrote:

    > Doesn't that need a 'Hammer' melee set first?

    I have a friend who plays an Invuln/Stone Melee tanker named Akane
    Tendoh. Complete with "$target no BAKA!!!" macro when she swings the
    stone mallet...

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    Greg Johnson <greg.gsj@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    >On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:46:01 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:
    >
    >>Marcel Beaudoin <mbeauINVALID@sympaINVALIDtico.ca> looked up from
    >>reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good,
    >>the signs say:
    >>
    >>>http://www.cityofheroes.com/features_update7.html
    >>>
    >>>The one that scares me??
    >>>
    >>>More costume options.
    >>>
    >>>Great, even more time lost in the character creation process.
    >>
    >>New costume options, some even anime styled.
    >>Body sliders.
    >>
    >>All i can say is, it's about friggen time. For all the options it has
    >>there aren't that many combinations that actually look good.
    >>
    >>I forsee a large increase in anime-type schoolgirl heroines once this
    >>comes out.
    >
    >Doesn't that need a 'Hammer' melee set first?

    Only for a couple of them.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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    On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 06:04:08 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net>
    wrote:

    >>Wow, you mean we can play females whose t*ts DON'T get in the way of
    >>everything?
    >
    >I hope so. Instead of the City of Women with Back Problems we currently
    >exist in.

    *chuckle* While it's a bit gratuitous, gotta admit, it does fit with
    the genre. ;) Can't think of many super heroines who aren't well
    endowed. (Though, I know there are a few out there...they're a rare
    breed)

    --
    Dark Tyger

    Sympathy for the retailer:
    http://www.actsofgord.com/index.html
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    (I have no association with this site. Just thought it was funny as hell)

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    Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:
    > It's hard to make a "small and cute" heroine, with a chest that belongs
    > in a strip club.

    Er, yeah. I was trying to placate my almost-5yo twins by making a character
    for each of them. The boy came out pretty cool. The girl came out fine
    except that I won't repeat the specifics about her comment about her chest
    looking like Mommy's. :P

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    -= Duke Miasma: Level 8 Science Controller, Grav/Force, H =-
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    Dark Tyger <darktiger@somewhere.net> looked up from reading the entrails
    of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    >On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 06:04:08 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>>Wow, you mean we can play females whose t*ts DON'T get in the way of
    >>>everything?
    >>
    >>I hope so. Instead of the City of Women with Back Problems we currently
    >>exist in.
    >
    >*chuckle* While it's a bit gratuitous, gotta admit, it does fit with
    >the genre. ;) Can't think of many super heroines who aren't well
    >endowed. (Though, I know there are a few out there...they're a rare
    >breed)

    Well that depends on what you call the genre.

    If you're only going to include north american mainstream comics
    (Marvel/DC) that yeah, there are few (IE Kitty Pryde).
    Once you add in the non mainstream, and anime/mangas though, there are a
    lot more non EEE types.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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    On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:46:01 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:

    > I forsee a large increase in anime-type schoolgirl heroines once this
    > comes out.

    Well, we already have tentacle monsters.

    --
    "When someone starts bragging about how much debt they have, it's not a
    good sign." -G
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    Magnus Itland <itlandm@online.no> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    >On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:46:01 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:
    >
    >> I forsee a large increase in anime-type schoolgirl heroines once this
    >> comes out.
    >
    >Well, we already have tentacle monsters.

    Well you know, the first time I spotted Lusca (quite by accident - I was
    street hunting, hit target and had a tentacle in my target window), once
    a team had assembled I did say that it was the prevalence of toons in
    schoolgirl outfits that had brought him to PC. There was much snikering
    and agreement.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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    "Dark Tyger" <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote in message
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    | On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 06:04:08 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net>
    | wrote:
    |
    | >>Wow, you mean we can play females whose t*ts DON'T get in the way of
    | >>everything?
    | >
    | >I hope so. Instead of the City of Women with Back Problems we currently
    | >exist in.
    |
    | *chuckle* While it's a bit gratuitous, gotta admit, it does fit with
    | the genre. ;) Can't think of many super heroines who aren't well
    | endowed. (Though, I know there are a few out there...they're a rare
    | breed)
    |
    | --
    | Dark Tyger

    There were a few that broke that "Super-Boob Woman" that has grown so
    popular these days.

    DC COMICS "Major Bummer" character had some wonderfully unusual
    secondary characters including a nice elderly lady.

    Although, to think of it, aside from the young girl superheroes and the
    elderly women superheroes most have huge boobs and gym-toned bodies. There
    have been a number of non-pretty female villians, but a meager offering of
    non-pretty superheroines.

    An incomplete, list to say the least

    List of female superheroes
    http://www.iridis.com/List_of_female_superheroes

    List of male superheroes
    http://www.iridis.com/List_of_male_superheroes
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    In article <110732nek7fa039@corp.supernews.com>, George Johnson wrote:
    > "Dark Tyger" <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote in message
    > news:a3u401hskbh20ek74jrsfbe7ej6ving5do@4ax.com...
    >| On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 06:04:08 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net>
    >| wrote:
    >|
    >| >>Wow, you mean we can play females whose t*ts DON'T get in the way of
    >| >>everything?
    >| >
    >| >I hope so. Instead of the City of Women with Back Problems we currently
    >| >exist in.
    >|
    >| *chuckle* While it's a bit gratuitous, gotta admit, it does fit with
    >| the genre. ;) Can't think of many super heroines who aren't well
    >| endowed. (Though, I know there are a few out there...they're a rare
    >| breed)
    >|
    >| --
    >| Dark Tyger
    >
    > There were a few that broke that "Super-Boob Woman" that has grown so
    > popular these days.
    >
    > DC COMICS "Major Bummer" character had some wonderfully unusual
    > secondary characters including a nice elderly lady.
    >
    > Although, to think of it, aside from the young girl superheroes and the
    > elderly women superheroes most have huge boobs and gym-toned bodies. There
    > have been a number of non-pretty female villians, but a meager offering of
    > non-pretty superheroines.

    Whenever my wife complains about the perfectly proportioned
    females in comic books, I ask her how many imperfect mail heroes
    she can find. There's quite equal opportunity idealizing going on
    in these things. ;)

    --
    Neil Cerutti
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    In article <36hhdvF51vdb2U1@individual.net>,
    Neil Cerutti <neil.cerutti@tds.net> wrote:

    > Whenever my wife complains about the perfectly proportioned
    > females in comic books, I ask her how many imperfect mail heroes
    > she can find. There's quite equal opportunity idealizing going on
    > in these things. ;)

    Of course, female superheroes are idealized to be sexy (for some
    definition of "sexy" that mind-bogglingly includes wasp-size waists
    and ankles, impossibly arched backs, bee-sting pouty lips, and
    perfectly spherical breasts the size of their head). Male superheroes
    are idealized to be powerful (large arms, necks, thighs, calves, etc.).

    Idealization for both genders, but for different reasons.

    Nathan

    --
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    The Startling Xipa, Justice Server
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    Nathan Sanders <ludling.DIE.SPAM@aol.com> wrote in news:ludling.DIE.SPAM-
    7D5F4E.10443607022005@news.verizon.net:

    > Of course, female superheroes are idealized to be sexy (for some
    > definition of "sexy" that mind-bogglingly includes wasp-size waists
    > and ankles, impossibly arched backs, bee-sting pouty lips, and
    > perfectly spherical breasts the size of their head). Male superheroes
    > are idealized to be powerful (large arms, necks, thighs, calves, etc.).
    >
    > Idealization for both genders, but for different reasons.
    >
    > Nathan

    I think one could make a good case for these "powerful" superheros as being
    sexy as well. A lot of women like that kind of thing better than sunken
    chests and huge guts.

    --
    The Soliphist asks...
    What assertion do you make to validate your existence?
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    Nathan Sanders wrote:
    <snip>
    > Maybe heterosexal women are different: do you gals prefer looking at
    > weight lifters, pro wrestlers, and linebackers, or divers, soccer
    > players, and quarterbacks, when you want a dose of eye candy?
    >
    <snip>

    Nope, I can't speak for ALL women but I don't find body builders sexy.
    Ok to a point they are. A man who is lean, well muscled is sexy. But
    the pro body builders with the huge bulging muscles? Nope, ick,
    grotesque. I at least find all extremes in men severe turn offs. I
    like a guy who is in shape, who when he lifts something heavy has some
    muscles show on his arms but that don't stand out constantly. Make
    sense?

    Most super hero men are really too bulky for my taste though they can
    have very handsom faces. (And women probalby key in on faces more than
    men.)
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    "Tandaina" <tandaina@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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    > Nathan Sanders wrote:
    > <snip>
    > > Maybe heterosexal women are different: do you gals prefer looking at
    > > weight lifters, pro wrestlers, and linebackers, or divers, soccer
    > > players, and quarterbacks, when you want a dose of eye candy?
    > >
    > <snip>
    >
    > Nope, I can't speak for ALL women but I don't find body builders sexy.
    > Ok to a point they are. A man who is lean, well muscled is sexy. But
    > the pro body builders with the huge bulging muscles? Nope, ick,
    > grotesque. I at least find all extremes in men severe turn offs. I
    > like a guy who is in shape, who when he lifts something heavy has some
    > muscles show on his arms but that don't stand out constantly. Make
    > sense?
    >
    > Most super hero men are really too bulky for my taste though they can
    > have very handsom faces. (And women probalby key in on faces more than
    > men.)

    Nor should they, really.

    No offense, but you don't read superhero comics. Not in numbers comparable
    to males.

    Both superhero male and superhero female bodies are *male* fantasies.


    --
    John Trauger,
    Vorlonagent

    "Methane martini.
    Shaken, not stirred."

    "The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common.
    Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to
    fit their views
    ....which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that
    needs altering."
    -The Doctor
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    On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:20:31 -0800, "Vorlonagent" <jt@otfresno.com>
    wrote:

    >Nor should they, really.
    >
    >No offense, but you don't read superhero comics. Not in numbers comparable
    >to males.
    >
    >Both superhero male and superhero female bodies are *male* fantasies.

    However, it could be in part because of that bias in the design that
    so many more males read comics than females...

    --
    Dark Tyger

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    "Dark Tyger" <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote in message
    news:spei01lsslliv5fj7j70dbpmk9gle9c9t4@4ax.com...
    > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:20:31 -0800, "Vorlonagent" <jt@otfresno.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Nor should they, really.
    > >
    > >No offense, but you don't read superhero comics. Not in numbers
    comparable
    > >to males.
    > >
    > >Both superhero male and superhero female bodies are *male* fantasies.
    >
    > However, it could be in part because of that bias in the design that
    > so many more males read comics than females...

    You'd have to go back to the 40's.

    When comics started, I'm pretty sure boys would automatically be seen as the
    audience. Superhero comics evolved from the pulps and were an adventure
    medium. The times being more patrician, girls wouldn't be expected to have
    any interest in adventure stuff. They were all being prepped to be Susie
    Homemaker. There were comics targetted for girls, but not superhero comics.

    --
    John Trauger,
    Vorlonagent

    "Methane martini.
    Shaken, not stirred."

    "The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common.
    Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to
    fit their views
    ....which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that
    needs altering."
    -The Doctor
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    Dark Tyger wrote:
    > Vorlonagent wrote:
    >> Nor should they, really.
    >>
    >> No offense, but you don't read superhero comics. Not in numbers
    comparable
    >> to males.
    >>
    >> Both superhero male and superhero female bodies are *male*
    fantasies.
    >
    > However, it could be in part because of that bias in the design that
    > so many more males read comics than females...

    Sure... like women don't dream of having large breasteses and dating
    hunks. There are people who make 7-figured salaries simply because of
    those *female* fantasies.
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    Hmm... am I the only one who's really not excited at all about the
    update?
    - New costume options, bleh I already set my character the way I want
    it, how does this affect anything? Maybe for new characters but I've
    already created like 15
    - Arenas. I've never been fond of PvP, consentual or not, with or
    without penalties, so this one doesn't interest me a bit.

    Anything else that I may like? (can't click on the link cause I'm
    behind a page blocker that luckily doesn't block dejanews)
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    On 8 Feb 2005 20:37:50 -0800, "The Black Guardian" <blakgard@aol.com>
    wrote:

    >> However, it could be in part because of that bias in the design that
    >> so many more males read comics than females...
    >
    >Sure... like women don't dream of having large breasteses and dating
    >hunks. There are people who make 7-figured salaries simply because of
    >those *female* fantasies.

    Well, the point is that the body designs are based off of male ideals
    of what's attractive. Female ideals aren't the same, really. As
    another said in this thread, a good many women find the bulging
    muscles actually grotesque and UN-attractive (THough, being in shape
    is desirable, that's just too much)

    --
    Dark Tyger

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    In article <1107987606.440658.268050@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
    wolfing wrote:
    > Hmm... am I the only one who's really not excited at all about the
    > update?
    > - New costume options, bleh I already set my character the way I want
    > it, how does this affect anything? Maybe for new characters but I've
    > already created like 15
    > - Arenas. I've never been fond of PvP, consentual or not, with or
    > without penalties, so this one doesn't interest me a bit.
    >
    > Anything else that I may like? (can't click on the link cause I'm
    > behind a page blocker that luckily doesn't block dejanews)

    The things that WON'T be in the new update... no new arcs, no new zones,
    no new zone events...

    Basically, yeah, this one isn't going to have a lot for you. Most of the
    content in I4 seems to be involved with the Arenas, the only non-arena
    content is the costume options.

    Can't win 'em all. Issue 5 will be around with a shiny new zone soon
    enough.

    --
    --- An' thou dost not get caught, do as thou wilt shall be the law ---
    "Religion disperses like a fog, kingdoms perish, but the works of
    scholars remain for an eternity." - Ulughbek
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    On 9 Feb 2005 14:20:06 -0800, wolfing <wolfing1@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > - New costume options, bleh I already set my character the way I want
    > it, how does this affect anything? Maybe for new characters but I've
    > already created like 15

    Well, when you get to levels 20, 30, and 40, you get this thing called
    an "alternate costume slot". You can then go to the tailor and make up
    a change of threads.

    > - Arenas. I've never been fond of PvP, consentual or not, with or
    > without penalties, so this one doesn't interest me a bit.

    Luckily you don't have to go there, then!

    > Anything else that I may like? (can't click on the link cause I'm
    > behind a page blocker that luckily doesn't block dejanews)

    Not really. But for those of us who like or think we might like those
    things, it's enough. :)

    --
    Chris Meadows aka | Homepage: http://www.terrania.us
    Robotech_Master |
    robotech@eyrie.org | Earn a free iPod and a free monitor or TV set!
    | http://www.terrania.us/conga.html
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    "wolfing" <wolfing1@yahoo.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    >Hmm... am I the only one who's really not excited at all about the
    >update?
    > - New costume options, bleh I already set my character the way I want
    >it, how does this affect anything? Maybe for new characters but I've
    >already created like 15

    Personally this is a big deal to me.
    Some of my toons have changed costumes multiple times while other never
    changed.
    Some had alternate costume wildly different from the original while
    others (like my inv/em tanker) only have slight differences between the
    main and alt costumes, like color/pauldrons/cape design).

    Even if you got your look the way you wanted, is it really "just right"
    or as close to "right" as you could get with the existing options?

    > - Arenas. I've never been fond of PvP, consentual or not, with or
    >without penalties, so this one doesn't interest me a bit.

    This I couldn't give a damn about since i'm just flat out not into pvp.

    >Anything else that I may like? (can't click on the link cause I'm
    >behind a page blocker that luckily doesn't block dejanews)

    ---- begin cut&paste ----

    Coming Soon!

    The heroes of Paragon City face constant danger every day. In order to
    prepare for that risk, they must constantly seek new ways to improve
    their skills. In the Arena, heroes will be able to test themselves
    against the other defenders of Paragon City and gain recognition as the
    best of the best. Statesman wants you…to train in the Arena. Do you have
    what it takes to rise to the top of the ranks?

    Heroes team up or go solo in PvP Matches to learn the latest fighting
    techniques, get ranked, and earn recognition from their peers!

    Player-Vs-Player Arena Matches!
    Heroes now have the opportunity to compete against each other in a
    variety of battle scenarios designed to hone their fighting skills to
    incredible levels!

    * Solo, Team or Supergroup slug-fests for characters of all levels.
    * Arenas are found in zones accessible to all levels of characters: in Galaxy City, Talos Island, and Peregrine Island.
    * Matches can be preset or customized by the players.
    * Options include pick-up instant matches or scheduled events between teams and supergroups.
    * PvP is only done with the consent of each player involved.
    * Includes constantly updating Ranking System where players see their character’s ranked among the best of Paragon City.
    * Winners in the Arena matches gain recognition and the losers gain valuable battle experience without earning character debt.

    Players may select from hundreds of new costume choices to outfit their
    Heroes with the latest styles from around the world!

    New Costume Selections!
    The award-winning character creation system has expanded to include
    all-new costume choices for the players to customize their heroes!

    * A robust selection of Anime-inspired costumes add another level of depth to the characters created by the players.

    Body & Face Scaling Feature!
    Players can break the mold even further by utilizing this new addition
    to the character creation system.

    * New face and head types provide players with the ability to create original hero designs that are truly unique to the super-powered character genre.

    Updated Mouse Controls!
    This new feature allows players to control their characters movements
    with just the mouse.

    Coalition Chat Feature!
    Different Supergroups will now have the ability to communicate with each
    other as they team up to simultaneously take on the largest menaces
    found in City of Heroes!
    ---- end cut&paste ----

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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    In article <1107987606.440658.268050@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, wolfing wrote:
    > Hmm... am I the only one who's really not excited at all about
    > the update?
    > - New costume options, bleh I already set my character the way
    > I want it, how does this affect anything? Maybe for new
    > characters but I've already created like 15

    It's a virtual guarantee that I'll be able to *improve* many of
    my characters, especially those who wear more casual clothes.

    Plus, the sliders may allow for some really interesting and
    effective body types.

    I believe this will improve everyone's game.

    > - Arenas. I've never been fond of PvP, consentual or not,
    > with or without penalties, so this one doesn't interest me a
    > bit.

    This one, on the other hand, will be nothing but trouble for
    *some* players.

    > Anything else that I may like? (can't click on the link cause
    > I'm behind a page blocker that luckily doesn't block dejanews)

    The thread above noted some nice changes to the low Teleport
    powers.

    --
    Neil Cerutti
    These people haven't seen the last of my face. If I go down, I'm
    going down standing up. --Chuck Person
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    "wolfing" <wolfing1@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1107987606.440658.268050
    @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

    > Hmm... am I the only one who's really not excited at all about the
    > update?

    I am excited for it, but I am not you...

    > - New costume options, bleh I already set my character the way I want
    > it, how does this affect anything? Maybe for new characters but I've
    > already created like 15

    For me, I don't like the fact that, currently, I can't make a "normal"
    looking character. Where are the glasses?? I want labcoats/trenchcoats!! I
    want to give my huge-sized tanker a potbelly!!

    > - Arenas. I've never been fond of PvP, consentual or not, with or
    > without penalties, so this one doesn't interest me a bit.

    I am actually looking forward to this. Never done PvP before, but am
    currently in a sg (Simian Defence Force) that is probably going to get
    quite a few invites for battles in the arena. Should be interesting. I also
    look forward to it because it is through the Arena that all of the power
    balances for PvP will get done, as well as the datamining for City of
    Villians.

    --
    Marcel
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    On 10 Feb 2005 13:58:07 GMT, Marcel Beaudoin
    <mbeauINVALID@sympaINVALIDtico.ca> wrote:

    >For me, I don't like the fact that, currently, I can't make a "normal"
    >looking character. Where are the glasses??

    Uh...check the face options. There are plenty of glasses. First 6 or 7
    options in "Detail 1", as I recall. And, as for "normal" looking?
    Jeans and TShirts have been in since day 1 as well... As have jeans
    and baggy sweatshirt-looking shirts. And business suits. The majority
    of my heroes have, in fact, looked quite normal.

    --
    Dark Tyger

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    Dark Tyger <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote in
    news:gscn01tv6iv4hqms8b056cv29gdihp26dl@4ax.com:

    > On 10 Feb 2005 13:58:07 GMT, Marcel Beaudoin
    > <mbeauINVALID@sympaINVALIDtico.ca> wrote:
    >
    >>For me, I don't like the fact that, currently, I can't make a "normal"
    >>looking character. Where are the glasses??
    >
    > Uh...check the face options. There are plenty of glasses. First 6 or 7
    > options in "Detail 1", as I recall. And, as for "normal" looking?
    > Jeans and TShirts have been in since day 1 as well... As have jeans
    > and baggy sweatshirt-looking shirts. And business suits. The majority
    > of my heroes have, in fact, looked quite normal.

    IIRC, most of the glasses options are sunglasses and the like. I am talking
    about prescription glasses. (I may be mistaken, it has been a while since I
    have made a character).

    As for normal, I am not talking about normal clothes, I am talking about
    normal body shape. Not rippling muscle, a bit of a pot-belly, that sort of
    thing.

    Sorry for being unclear.

    --
    Marcel
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    On 10 Feb 2005 19:25:03 GMT, Marcel Beaudoin
    <mbeauINVALID@sympaINVALIDtico.ca> wrote:

    >IIRC, most of the glasses options are sunglasses and the like. I am talking
    >about prescription glasses. (I may be mistaken, it has been a while since I
    >have made a character).

    You can easily change the tinting on the semi-transparant lenses so
    they look like normal glasses.

    >As for normal, I am not talking about normal clothes, I am talking about
    >normal body shape. Not rippling muscle, a bit of a pot-belly, that sort of
    >thing.

    Perhaps you missed it, but this is a comic book superhero game. A
    "pot-bellied superhero" just doesn't fit the genre. Yes, there may be
    a few, but they tend to be obscure exceptions.

    --
    Dark Tyger

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    In article <Xns95F992A344F2Dmbeausympaticoca@130.133.1.4>,
    Marcel Beaudoin wrote:
    > Dark Tyger <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote in
    > news:gscn01tv6iv4hqms8b056cv29gdihp26dl@4ax.com:
    >> On 10 Feb 2005 13:58:07 GMT, Marcel Beaudoin
    >> <mbeauINVALID@sympaINVALIDtico.ca> wrote:
    >>>For me, I don't like the fact that, currently, I can't make a "normal"
    >>>looking character. Where are the glasses??
    >>
    >> Uh...check the face options. There are plenty of glasses. First 6 or 7
    >> options in "Detail 1", as I recall. And, as for "normal" looking?
    >> Jeans and TShirts have been in since day 1 as well... As have jeans
    >> and baggy sweatshirt-looking shirts. And business suits. The majority
    >> of my heroes have, in fact, looked quite normal.
    >
    > IIRC, most of the glasses options are sunglasses and the like. I am talking
    > about prescription glasses. (I may be mistaken, it has been a while since I
    > have made a character).

    There are a few "glasses-like" glasses, although you may have given up
    scrolling through the many sunglasses/goggles options before getting to
    them.

    > As for normal, I am not talking about normal clothes, I am talking about
    > normal body shape. Not rippling muscle, a bit of a pot-belly, that sort of
    > thing.
    >
    > Sorry for being unclear.

    Apparently options for tweaking bits of the character's build are
    coming with Issue 4 along with the costume options. It's not clear yet
    precisely what will be tweaked, but it will no longer be an
    all-or-nothing axis like the current creator.

    --
    --- An' thou dost not get caught, do as thou wilt shall be the law ---
    "Religion disperses like a fog, kingdoms perish, but the works of
    scholars remain for an eternity." - Ulughbek
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    Marcel Beaudoin <mbeauINVALID@sympaINVALIDtico.ca> looked up from
    reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good,
    the signs say:

    >Dark Tyger <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote in
    >news:gscn01tv6iv4hqms8b056cv29gdihp26dl@4ax.com:
    >
    >> On 10 Feb 2005 13:58:07 GMT, Marcel Beaudoin
    >> <mbeauINVALID@sympaINVALIDtico.ca> wrote:
    >>
    >>>For me, I don't like the fact that, currently, I can't make a "normal"
    >>>looking character. Where are the glasses??
    >>
    >> Uh...check the face options. There are plenty of glasses. First 6 or 7
    >> options in "Detail 1", as I recall. And, as for "normal" looking?
    >> Jeans and TShirts have been in since day 1 as well... As have jeans
    >> and baggy sweatshirt-looking shirts. And business suits. The majority
    >> of my heroes have, in fact, looked quite normal.
    >
    >IIRC, most of the glasses options are sunglasses and the like. I am talking
    >about prescription glasses. (I may be mistaken, it has been a while since I
    >have made a character).

    You pick one of the sunglasses that are frame+lense and color the lenses
    white - presto, normal glasses.

    You must have seen someone wearing them - people have been doing normal
    glasses since release.

    >As for normal, I am not talking about normal clothes, I am talking about
    >normal body shape. Not rippling muscle, a bit of a pot-belly, that sort of
    >thing.

    Not really possible now, though you can sort of look less muscular if
    you use the baggy top option on an athletic normal male model.

    That's what I tend to do with the Anime-ish gals I make, jeans, baggy
    top, large gloves/boots - makes them seem a little less curvy.

    I am SO looking foreward to proper body sliders.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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    On 9 Feb 2005 14:20:06 -0800, wolfing <wolfing1@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > Hmm... am I the only one who's really not excited at all about the
    > update?

    No.

    > - New costume options, bleh I already set my character the way I want
    > it, how does this affect anything? Maybe for new characters but I've
    > already created like 15

    Well, this is the selling point for me (except that it's free!). I'm
    playing in an otaku supergroup (Zutto Yume Mamotteru, on Triumph) so I
    should probably start exemplaring now to save up the influence for a trip
    to Icon. Too bad we can't do the body type changes to existing characters
    as well. Still, it doesn't affect gameplay much - after a few days it
    will be as if it had always been there.

    > - Arenas. I've never been fond of PvP, consentual or not, with or
    > without penalties, so this one doesn't interest me a bit.

    Hate PvP. Hate it forever.
    Now the "tuning" of the powers for PvP is sure to begin, and thus the
    de-tuning for PvE. This will only accelerate during the CoV beta, and I
    cannot imagine any way it won't leave the game worse off than it was last
    April. To the best of my knowledge, no software company has ever managed
    to make a game perfect for PvP without sacrificing PvE somewhat. (CoH is
    better poised for it than anyone else, since the villains are supposedly
    human too for the most part and could have the same powers and an
    artificial intelligence designed from actual PvP experience ... but I
    still doubt it will work that way.)

    --
    "When someone starts bragging about how much debt they have, it's not a
    good sign." -G
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    Magnus Itland <itlandm@online.no> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    >On 9 Feb 2005 14:20:06 -0800, wolfing <wolfing1@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Hmm... am I the only one who's really not excited at all about the
    >> update?
    >
    >No.
    >
    >> - New costume options, bleh I already set my character the way I want
    >> it, how does this affect anything? Maybe for new characters but I've
    >> already created like 15
    >
    >Well, this is the selling point for me (except that it's free!). I'm
    >playing in an otaku supergroup (Zutto Yume Mamotteru, on Triumph) so I
    >should probably start exemplaring now to save up the influence for a trip
    >to Icon. Too bad we can't do the body type changes to existing characters
    >as well. Still, it doesn't affect gameplay much - after a few days it
    >will be as if it had always been there.

    Are we sure about that?
    Will the new body sliders only be in the editor pre-costume with the
    current height/build or will they be in the costume part?

    I would think that they would fit well in the costume part - you can't
    really change your height/basic build, but you might gain/lose weight
    over time.

    >> - Arenas. I've never been fond of PvP, consentual or not, with or
    >> without penalties, so this one doesn't interest me a bit.
    >
    >Hate PvP. Hate it forever.
    >Now the "tuning" of the powers for PvP is sure to begin, and thus the
    >de-tuning for PvE. This will only accelerate during the CoV beta, and I
    >cannot imagine any way it won't leave the game worse off than it was last
    >April. To the best of my knowledge, no software company has ever managed
    >to make a game perfect for PvP without sacrificing PvE somewhat. (CoH is
    >better poised for it than anyone else, since the villains are supposedly
    >human too for the most part and could have the same powers and an
    >artificial intelligence designed from actual PvP experience ... but I
    >still doubt it will work that way.)

    I think that it's quite likely they will be able to do it fairly well.
    The current system already modifies attacks based on mob type and
    resists so they _should_ be able to make PvP just another mod to the
    attacks leaving PvE unchanged.

    Lets hope anyway, since I too have less than zero interest in PvP.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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    In article <opsl2r180wb52ai9@news.online.no>, Magnus Itland wrote:
    > On 9 Feb 2005 14:20:06 -0800, wolfing <wolfing1@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Hmm... am I the only one who's really not excited at all about the
    >> update?
    >
    > No.
    >
    >> - New costume options, bleh I already set my character the way I want
    >> it, how does this affect anything? Maybe for new characters but I've
    >> already created like 15
    >
    > Well, this is the selling point for me (except that it's
    > free!). I'm playing in an otaku supergroup (Zutto Yume
    > Mamotteru, on Triumph) so I should probably start exemplaring
    > now to save up the influence for a trip to Icon. Too bad we
    > can't do the body type changes to existing characters as well.
    > Still, it doesn't affect gameplay much - after a few days it
    > will be as if it had always been there.

    The sliders for body-shape are planned to be available at Icon.
    You still can't can't your basic body type or height, though.

    --
    Neil Cerutti
    Caution: Cape does not enable user to fly. --Kenner's Batman
    costume
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    In article <hv2s011ljn04sus4lff3tnk73hv873hed9@4ax.com>,
    Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:

    > Magnus Itland <itlandm@online.no> looked up from reading the entrails of
    > the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
    >
    > Are we sure about that?
    > Will the new body sliders only be in the editor pre-costume with the
    > current height/build or will they be in the costume part?
    >
    > I would think that they would fit well in the costume part - you can't
    > really change your height/basic build, but you might gain/lose weight
    > over time.

    I think Bruce Banner, Donald Blake, Tony Stark, and Billy Batson might
    diagree about not changing height and basic build...

    Nathan
    not to mention Ranma

    --
    Nathan Sanders
    The Startling Xipa, Justice Server
    level 34 Radiation/Radiation Magic Defender
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    On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:05:53 GMT, Nathan Sanders
    <ludling.DIE.SPAM@aol.com> wrote:

    > I think Bruce Banner, Donald Blake, Tony Stark, and Billy Batson might
    > diagree about not changing height and basic build...
    >
    > Nathan
    > not to mention Ranma

    Hmm ... perhaps the new Anime themed issue will have the Ranma effect ...
    I doubt it, though. On the other hand you should be able to make
    gender-ambiguous characters. Although I'd be satisfied with male cat-ears
    and a good selection of long hair.

    --
    "When someone starts bragging about how much debt they have, it's not a
    good sign." -G
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    Nathan Sanders <ludling.DIE.SPAM@aol.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    >In article <hv2s011ljn04sus4lff3tnk73hv873hed9@4ax.com>,
    > Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:
    >
    >> Magnus Itland <itlandm@online.no> looked up from reading the entrails of
    >> the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
    >>
    >> Are we sure about that?
    >> Will the new body sliders only be in the editor pre-costume with the
    >> current height/build or will they be in the costume part?
    >>
    >> I would think that they would fit well in the costume part - you can't
    >> really change your height/basic build, but you might gain/lose weight
    >> over time.
    >
    >I think Bruce Banner, Donald Blake, Tony Stark, and Billy Batson might
    >diagree about not changing height and basic build...

    But none of those exist in the Paragon City 'world'.

    The only shapechangers PC has are werewolf/warwolf mobs and Kheldians
    with energy forms.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
  49. Archived from groups: alt.games.coh (More info?)

    On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:32:40 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> wrote:
    > Nathan Sanders <ludling.DIE.SPAM@aol.com> looked up from reading the
    > entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    > say:

    >> I think Bruce Banner, Donald Blake, Tony Stark, and Billy Batson might
    >> diagree about not changing height and basic build...
    >
    > But none of those exist in the Paragon City 'world'.

    And a good thing too. Imagine a player-created movie showing a Bruce
    Banner clone changing into a Hulk clone. Imagine Marvel's lawyers having
    it. No, let's hope there is no such change.

    --
    "When someone starts bragging about how much debt they have, it's not a
    good sign." -G
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