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Anonymous
September 5, 2004 12:02:39 PM

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I completely ruined the picture on my Panasonic PT-53WX42 by fiddling
around in the service mode without keeping track of my settings and by
generally screwing around too much. I have a website with pictures to
document this nightmare:

http://factus8.home.mindspring.com/tv/panasonic.html

Can anybody help me figure this out? I don't want to make a service
call on this tv because I expect it will be an expensive service visit
plus I need to learn how to tweak this tv without ruining it. Any
suggestions, please post them here or send an email to factus8@hotmail
dot com.

Thank you for any help you can provide!
September 5, 2004 3:22:20 PM

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The last time this was asked, on 2/4/2003, someone said:

Suedehead wrote:
> Well, I've managed to thoroughly bugger my PT53WX42 by going into the
> set's service mode and fiddle with the settings without making note of
> what the original settings were.
>
> Before I make a service call on the set, I was hoping some kind soul
> would post the default service mode settings on this set. Or if
> there's a way to reset the tv to factory presets, that might help as
> well. Any help would be much, much appreciated!


Visit the forums at http://www.panny.tv/ . Someone there may be able to
help you.

Joe


"factus8" <factus8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:D 039e45.0409050702.64368bb5@posting.google.com...
>I completely ruined the picture on my Panasonic PT-53WX42 by fiddling
> around in the service mode without keeping track of my settings and by
> generally screwing around too much. I have a website with pictures to
> document this nightmare:
>
> http://factus8.home.mindspring.com/tv/panasonic.html
>
> Can anybody help me figure this out? I don't want to make a service
> call on this tv because I expect it will be an expensive service visit
> plus I need to learn how to tweak this tv without ruining it. Any
> suggestions, please post them here or send an email to factus8@hotmail
> dot com.
>
> Thank you for any help you can provide!
Anonymous
September 5, 2004 6:40:40 PM

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Beyond that take the set to a Panasonic ASC and tell them just how you
FUBARD the set.
Let them stop laughing and tell you what the service charges will be to
repair the set, resetting the parameters to original factory specs.
"MGoBlue" <nospam@anytime.net> wrote in message
news:413b2f46$1_1@127.0.0.1...
> The last time this was asked, on 2/4/2003, someone said:
>
> Suedehead wrote:
>> Well, I've managed to thoroughly bugger my PT53WX42 by going into the
>> set's service mode and fiddle with the settings without making note of
>> what the original settings were.
>>
>> Before I make a service call on the set, I was hoping some kind soul
>> would post the default service mode settings on this set. Or if
>> there's a way to reset the tv to factory presets, that might help as
>> well. Any help would be much, much appreciated!
>
>
> Visit the forums at http://www.panny.tv/ . Someone there may be able to
> help you.
>
> Joe
>
>
> "factus8" <factus8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:D 039e45.0409050702.64368bb5@posting.google.com...
>>I completely ruined the picture on my Panasonic PT-53WX42 by fiddling
>> around in the service mode without keeping track of my settings and by
>> generally screwing around too much. I have a website with pictures to
>> document this nightmare:
>>
>> http://factus8.home.mindspring.com/tv/panasonic.html
>>
>> Can anybody help me figure this out? I don't want to make a service
>> call on this tv because I expect it will be an expensive service visit
>> plus I need to learn how to tweak this tv without ruining it. Any
>> suggestions, please post them here or send an email to factus8@hotmail
>> dot com.
>>
>> Thank you for any help you can provide!
>
>
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Anonymous
September 5, 2004 6:40:41 PM

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Generally speaking,I have always understood myself that service menu
controls are exactly that: designed for service technical people who
have the training to use them.This is OPPOSED to operator/owner controls
which are designed for tweaking by the user.Unless you are a TV tech
yourself,it is best if the layman refrains from accessing them.
That said,I think it is a poor design of the set to allow a casual user
access so easily without some kind of password option or switching
mechanism that allows for a subset switching routine to these controls
IMO.
Anonymous
September 5, 2004 10:06:36 PM

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Sorry that this is a duplicate thread. I posted this on Google Groups
and apparently it takes 5 hours for their posts to show up. I am
going to try to keep the other thread active. Updates also posted on
my web page for anybody interested:

http://factus8.home.mindspring.com/tv/panasonic.html
Anonymous
September 6, 2004 2:12:30 AM

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Meanwhile you might draw a picture or print out some your screen
shots. Turn any knob and make a note of which two colors move and
on what part of the screen. Looks like you in the convergence
adjustments. Keep messing with it you may bring it back to near
normal. Best to get the red and green together the move the blue in
last to see white lines.

hdtvfan

On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 14:40:40 -0400, "Art" <plotsligt@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Beyond that take the set to a Panasonic ASC and tell them just how you
>FUBARD the set.
>Let them stop laughing and tell you what the service charges will be to
>repair the set, resetting the parameters to original factory specs.
>"MGoBlue" <nospam@anytime.net> wrote in message
>news:413b2f46$1_1@127.0.0.1...
>> The last time this was asked, on 2/4/2003, someone said:
>>
>> Suedehead wrote:
>>> Well, I've managed to thoroughly bugger my PT53WX42 by going into the
>>> set's service mode and fiddle with the settings without making note of
>>> what the original settings were.
>>>
>>> Before I make a service call on the set, I was hoping some kind soul
>>> would post the default service mode settings on this set. Or if
>>> there's a way to reset the tv to factory presets, that might help as
>>> well. Any help would be much, much appreciated!
>>
>>
>> Visit the forums at http://www.panny.tv/ . Someone there may be able to
>> help you.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> "factus8" <factus8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:D 039e45.0409050702.64368bb5@posting.google.com...
>>>I completely ruined the picture on my Panasonic PT-53WX42 by fiddling
>>> around in the service mode without keeping track of my settings and by
>>> generally screwing around too much. I have a website with pictures to
>>> document this nightmare:
>>>
>>> http://factus8.home.mindspring.com/tv/panasonic.html
>>>
>>> Can anybody help me figure this out? I don't want to make a service
>>> call on this tv because I expect it will be an expensive service visit
>>> plus I need to learn how to tweak this tv without ruining it. Any
>>> suggestions, please post them here or send an email to factus8@hotmail
>>> dot com.
>>>
>>> Thank you for any help you can provide!
>>
>>
>
Anonymous
September 13, 2004 5:32:57 AM

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SAC441@webtv.net (SAC 441) wrote in news:160-413B6236-100@storefull-
3254.bay.webtv.net:

> Generally speaking,I have always understood myself that service menu
> controls are exactly that: designed for service technical people who
> have the training to use them.This is OPPOSED to operator/owner controls
> which are designed for tweaking by the user.Unless you are a TV tech
> yourself,it is best if the layman refrains from accessing them.
> That said,I think it is a poor design of the set to allow a casual user
> access so easily without some kind of password option or switching
> mechanism that allows for a subset switching routine to these controls
> IMO.

There is a set of slightly complex combinations that must be set with the
remote control in order to access the service menu on this particular set, it
is not something that a owner would "stumble into". Factus got the info on
this from somewhere and this is what happens when you do this.

For all of you out there that want to "tweak" your set with the service
menus, here is a tip for you. DON'T DO IT, STAY OUT OF THE SERVICE MENUS!

There are no tweaks in there that can help you, just a very complicated set
of adjustable parameters that are set at the factory to give you a good
picture and are optimized for your individual set (This is why "default"
parameters will not give you the best results.), there is nothing in here
that can be "tweaked" to improve your TV, only tons of stuff that will allow
you to ruin your TV.


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Anonymous
September 13, 2004 9:51:09 AM

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"Ohmster" <donteven@thinkaboutit.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9562DB96FBAEFmybigone@216.77.188.18...
> SAC441@webtv.net (SAC 441) wrote in news:160-413B6236-100@storefull-
> There are no tweaks in there that can help you, just a very complicated
set
> of adjustable parameters that are set at the factory to give you a good
> picture and are optimized for your individual set (This is why "default"
> parameters will not give you the best results.), there is nothing in here
> that can be "tweaked" to improve your TV, only tons of stuff that will
allow
> you to ruin your TV.

I can appreciate your attempts to help people to not screw up their sets,
but with comments like this you begin to sound like a either a condescending
"leave it to professionals" tech or someone who really does not know much
about performance in CRT based RPTV. You contradict yourself in the first
sentence. There certainly ARE things that can be tweaked in many sets, if
you understand the relationship between the service parameters and the
resulting performance. Many of the readers of this group understand enough
to know what to adjust, know that they need to get the documentation before
messing with it, or at least are smart enough not adjust things that they
are not absolutely sure about. There are also many readers here who are
better off staying out of the service menus, but they deserve a more
realistic perspective.

Also, concerning your other post where you indicated that the Panasonic set
would come out "fine" after a complete realignment, you should be more
realistic. It might be fine after a technician experienced in alignment of
Panasonic RPTV spends hours on it, or you might be able to do so, but the
majority of "technicians" would likely not get it right. The fact is that
there are lots of half-ass techs out there who will do just as much as they
must to get a picture on the screen, and many who have no clue how to get a
set to look right. Consumers need to shop for service as much as they shop
for the product.

You may be a great tech and perform great service for your clients, but
remember that there is a serious lack of professionalism among many in our
field. Also remember that many "consumers", especially here, may know a lot
about the products that you don't.

Leonard
Anonymous
September 13, 2004 1:09:00 PM

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"Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ohmster" <donteven@thinkaboutit.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9562DB96FBAEFmybigone@216.77.188.18...
> > SAC441@webtv.net (SAC 441) wrote in news:160-413B6236-100@storefull-
> > There are no tweaks in there that can help you, just a very complicated
> set
> > of adjustable parameters that are set at the factory to give you a good
> > picture and are optimized for your individual set (This is why "default"
> > parameters will not give you the best results.), there is nothing in
here
> > that can be "tweaked" to improve your TV, only tons of stuff that will
> allow
> > you to ruin your TV.
>
> I can appreciate your attempts to help people to not screw up their sets,
> but with comments like this you begin to sound like a either a
condescending
> "leave it to professionals" tech or someone who really does not know much
> about performance in CRT based RPTV. You contradict yourself in the first
> sentence. There certainly ARE things that can be tweaked in many sets, if
> you understand the relationship between the service parameters and the
> resulting performance. Many of the readers of this group understand
enough
> to know what to adjust, know that they need to get the documentation
before
> messing with it, or at least are smart enough not adjust things that they
> are not absolutely sure about. There are also many readers here who are
> better off staying out of the service menus, but they deserve a more
> realistic perspective.
>
> Also, concerning your other post where you indicated that the Panasonic
set
> would come out "fine" after a complete realignment, you should be more
> realistic. It might be fine after a technician experienced in alignment
of
> Panasonic RPTV spends hours on it, or you might be able to do so, but the
> majority of "technicians" would likely not get it right. The fact is that
> there are lots of half-ass techs out there who will do just as much as
they
> must to get a picture on the screen, and many who have no clue how to get
a
> set to look right. Consumers need to shop for service as much as they
shop
> for the product.
>
> You may be a great tech and perform great service for your clients, but
> remember that there is a serious lack of professionalism among many in our
> field. Also remember that many "consumers", especially here, may know a
lot
> about the products that you don't.
>
> Leonard
>
Agreed, the above applies to all fields from Medical to Legal.

Jeff
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