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March 8, 2007 3:33:29 AM

Ok guys, this is my second post in here and i feel i should share this. I bought a E6300 with stock cooler. Bought a Ga-965P-S3. Bought OCZ2P8002GK ram. Also a 600 watt PSU. A 8800gts 320.

Ok... i followed the whole overclocking guide for the E6300 using this mobo and the results were good. I was able to hit 3.2 ghz stable with stock cooling. And what ever i did i could not get past it. So.... i decided to get really expensive ram. I ended up getting OCZ PC8500 which is rated at 1066 mhz. Just changing that memory I was able to bring this baby to 3.5 ghz with stock cooling. Amazing!!! I did flash the mobo bios to the most current version just in case but even tried the older ram and still could not get post 3.2. So everyone who buys this CPU with this motherboard, it is crucial to get ram able to hit 1000 ghz. other you will limit the potential of the processor speed. And keep in mind I'm using stock cooling so this rig is super good. All the benchmarks beat the E6700 extreme which cost around 600 dollars i believe. So this turned out money well spent. I have one more objective to to thou... I cannot keep the PC8500 memory cuz it cost me 300 dollars... and im not about to spend that much money on memory. Ive read all around about cheaper memory doing 1000mhz easily like Gail and patriots... which cost alot less. if anyone can suggest memory that hits 1000 mhz please let me know.. my budget is 200 dollars. hope this is good info. Also... the first memory which capped my cpu speed was a OCZ2P8002GK 4-5-4-15 PC6400 800mgz. Thgis is ok if you want to limit you cpu overclocking, but if you want more power get the higher mhz memory.
March 8, 2007 4:37:22 AM

what temps are you getting?

and what is the ambient temps?

Voltage?
March 8, 2007 6:35:56 AM

Ok, the temps....... at idle im getting

Motherboard: 40c (104 f)
CPU: 56c (133 f)
Core 1: 63c (145 f)
Core 2: 64c (147 f)

Cpu Voltage: 1.42 v

Does it look too hot? AT full load it goes up to 69c to 70c max. And very stable. Anything higher it will crash programs....
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March 8, 2007 11:11:17 AM

what program are you using to monitor these temps? is this Tcase or Tjunction temps? and what are the ambient/room temps?

after a day of applying AS-5, i have idle temps of 44-45c but loads at 66c (via Coretemp and TAT)

this is on an ambient temp of 27c..now my problem is that the ambient temp here rises to around 33c and the rise in room temp is proportional to the rise of my procs temp (meaning i can reach around 70c at 100% load on a hot day) im hoping this AS-5 really pulls it off for my proc as im still stuck on stock :( 

anyway, what temps where you getting at stock speed?
March 8, 2007 12:40:58 PM

Well, im using several programs for the temp monitor just to make sure.First Im using CoreTemp, but for some reason Tjunction is always stuck on 85c there, And it never changes. SO i downloaded the trial of Everest, and thru there im getting the numbers stated. Tjunction would be CPU temp. As for my ambient room temp, its about 21c (69 f). As for stock speed temps, i get Tjuncion of 43c and core 1 and core 2 at about 52c. I did reseat the processor 3 times to make sure its seated nicely. And everytime i did reapply new thermal paste. DO the temps look high to you guys?
March 8, 2007 1:02:14 PM

Core1 and Core 2 are your Tjunction temps
so there must be some adjustments needed to make your readings more accurate :) 

i dunno if they are high, but as for me, with the CIe and CPU EIST function, im getting

Tcase 37-38c
Tjunction 51-52c

this is on a 29c room temp (and temps go as high as 33c where i live)
March 8, 2007 1:16:31 PM

Im sorry your right. Tjunction is the cores. Well those are at62c at the moment and Tcase is at 55c. Its very pretty stable at 3.5 with stock cooling. But im afraid it might just shorten the lifespan of this cpu. I've read on other forums abut ppl running this cpu overclocked stable at 67c, so im not too concerned.Coretemp seems worthless to me, anyone recommend good temp monitoring software? BTW pinoyako whats you ghz?
March 8, 2007 1:44:12 PM

im still at stock speed because of these temps
( i disabled the CPU EIST and CPU enhanced halt state though, but since m not OCing i think ill enable them to save more temps)

Room temp 28c

LOAD


IDLE


AS-5 was applied 24hours ago and this PC has been running for more or less 15hours so i dunno if the AS-5 hasnt taken full or considerable effect yet or i have a concave HSF or IHS (hopefully not)


Can anyone please tell me how abnormally high the temps can get with a concave/convex HSF or IHS?
March 8, 2007 1:49:36 PM

I don't want to kill your fun, but of course you need high end RAM to OC a E6300 that far.

The 7x multi is pretty darn low, so in order to hit 3GHz you are batting at 428 FSB, or 856 on your RAM.

It was a good decision to get the RAM but at what cost? What would a E6700 + Cheap ram get you in comparison to E6300 + expensive RAM?

-pino

Don't enable EIST if you OC, at stock it is fine, but when you OC EIST really throws your computer for a loop with the undervolting and changing of the multi dynamically.

Just as a heads up. 8)
March 8, 2007 1:58:27 PM

sigh, its just sad that my DDR2 800 is such a waste with my e6300@stock :(  oh well if have extra cash i just might get aftermarket cooling

ok gonna enable EIST now..
March 8, 2007 2:12:16 PM

I agree superfly, i paid 3000 dollars for this pc8500 memory. and im not keeping it, it was for testing purposes. All i need to do now is find cheaper memory able to clock at 1000 mhz. Like geil perhaps...... then its worth a system like this......Pinoyako, you notice Coretemp has tjunction stuck at 85c, is that a bug?
March 8, 2007 2:28:31 PM

that isnt a bug, its not your tjunction temp but the threshold temp for shutdown :)  the more youre near it, the more you should worry :D 
March 8, 2007 2:31:24 PM

Exactly. CoreTemp shows max spec tjunction and SpeedFan displays actual tjunction. 8)
March 8, 2007 2:37:59 PM

ive read people undervolting their C2Ds even when OCed (probably to get lower temps?)..is it safe?
March 8, 2007 2:48:44 PM

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ive read people undervolting their C2Ds even when OCed (probably to get lower temps?)..is it safe?


If it is stable, then yes. Overvolting can kill a chip but undervolting can only cause it to be unstable.
March 8, 2007 3:02:37 PM

Ohh i see, im going to redownload it. hehehe.. i thought it was a bug. And yes i did try to undervolt it and no post. Mines only runs at a minimun 1.4250v.
March 8, 2007 3:18:35 PM

WOW! I guess theres a few lucky ones out there... this guys had to do all this to hit 3.2ghz. Im just running on stock cooler. This shows mobo cpu memory selection makes a difference, then luck place a big role too.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1140799
March 8, 2007 3:21:55 PM

i turned off EIST and im now idling at 33c on speedfan!

tjunction temps via speedfan (with +5c adjustements as suggested by computronix) shows 46 and 47c idle whilst coretemp registers 41 and 42 room temp is at 26c though
March 8, 2007 4:00:32 PM

Those are really good number pinoyako, mines even at stock speed seems to be warm. :(  I just torture test it and it got to 73c, yikes!!!! I need to get better cooler. I turned off everything off on my bios except lan, ethernet, audio,usb.
March 8, 2007 4:22:55 PM

i dunno its quite cold right now, room temps can get to 33c here during the day..

anyway here are my latest temps

LOAD



IDLE



March 8, 2007 4:23:41 PM

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i turned off EIST and im now idling at 33c on speedfan!

tjunction temps via speedfan (with +5c adjustements as suggested by computronix) shows 46 and 47c idle whilst coretemp registers 41 and 42 room temp is at 26c though


That sounds about right for the stock cooler, maybe a few C hotter, but not that bad. Stock cooler isn't that great, but it should be good for 3Ghz, give or take.
March 8, 2007 4:27:14 PM

hopefully the AS-5 will drop the temps a little more (i applied AS-5 around 24 hours ago) in a few days :)  then maybe ill try to OC..but this processor is definetely running cooler now than my A64 3000+ venice OCed to 2.4Ghz
March 8, 2007 8:02:16 PM

UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Took off the original stock fan and left the heatsink on. Zip tied a Thermaltake fan, you know.. the ones that blow alot of air and are loud as my house vaccum? Well,.... anyways.. i was able to overclock to 3.73 with a increase of cpu volt of 1.5v. It post but as soon as I put a load on it th temps shoot up to 79c. Thats wayyy too hot. Then thew system restart. If I dnt put a load on it it hover around 65c on both cores. So i can surf the web on 3.73 ghz. lol! I figure I need a aftermarket fan. Any suggestions on which one will do the job? Ill spend no more than 30 dollars....
March 8, 2007 8:10:18 PM

LOL youre one adventurous daredevil! :D 
March 8, 2007 8:12:12 PM

I guarantee you that will pop if those temps aren't brought down soon. You know it's too hot. 8)
March 8, 2007 8:36:32 PM

he didnt mention if it was Tcase or Tjunction..either way though, its really hot

just for info, im not at 34c (Tcase) 48c (Tjunction) on a 29c roomtemp :) 

but thats with EIST enabled though :) 

load temps reached 49-50c Tcase and 61c (Tjunction) which is weird coz i already added 5c adjustments but the coretemp still gets left behind (in this case by 4c)

room temp is at 27-28c
March 8, 2007 8:44:23 PM

Ok to clearify my situation..... Tjunction shoots up to 78c and tcase shoots up to 69c. I know it might pop but for gods sake I wanna see this baby burn!!!!!!! Been twaeking it all day and it seems to not wan to overclock higher than 3.77ghz. My dear god, i was really hoping to get 3.8ghz. but i think the temp is killing it. I must search for a good cooler.
March 8, 2007 9:45:25 PM

so you built that PC to destroy it?
March 9, 2007 12:17:33 AM

hehehe, well ofcourse not. I want to get the best bang for the buck and hope the cpu dont bang and loss my buck. but luckily i bought all this stuff at Fry's.. so i can return it if it fails. 15 day return policy is great.
March 9, 2007 3:07:13 AM

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Ok guys, this is my second post in here and i feel i should share this. I bought a E6300 with stock cooler. Bought a Ga-965P-S3. Bought OCZ2P8002GK ram. Also a 600 watt PSU. A 8800gts 320.

Ok... i followed the whole overclocking guide for the E6300 using this mobo and the results were good. I was able to hit 3.2 ghz stable with stock cooling. And what ever i did i could not get past it. So.... i decided to get really expensive ram. I ended up getting OCZ PC8500 which is rated at 1066 mhz. Just changing that memory I was able to bring this baby to 3.5 ghz with stock cooling. Amazing!!! I did flash the mobo bios to the most current version just in case but even tried the older ram and still could not get post 3.2. So everyone who buys this CPU with this motherboard, it is crucial to get ram able to hit 1000 ghz. other you will limit the potential of the processor speed. And keep in mind I'm using stock cooling so this rig is super good. All the benchmarks beat the E6700 extreme which cost around 600 dollars i believe. So this turned out money well spent. I have one more objective to to thou... I cannot keep the PC8500 memory cuz it cost me 300 dollars... and im not about to spend that much money on memory. Ive read all around about cheaper memory doing 1000mhz easily like Gail and patriots... which cost alot less. if anyone can suggest memory that hits 1000 mhz please let me know.. my budget is 200 dollars. hope this is good info. Also... the first memory which capped my cpu speed was a OCZ2P8002GK 4-5-4-15 PC6400 800mgz. Thgis is ok if you want to limit you cpu overclocking, but if you want more power get the higher mhz memory.


1GB COSAIR TWINX 5-5-5-12 DDR2 XMS2 ( Price $129.99 ) Memory can go well above 1000ghz I found out by accident ... I went to 1200 by accident because I forgot to lower the multi thingy :oops:  ...
March 9, 2007 3:21:15 AM

i just envy you guys with low C2D e6300 temps..im still stuck at stock :( 
March 9, 2007 4:55:58 PM

Thxs meggawattz2000... i will try that memory... Corsair is usually good for that. Pinoyako, if you system is stable i think you should worry too much. Why dont you try to overclock?
March 9, 2007 7:21:28 PM

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Thxs meggawattz2000... i will try that memory... Corsair is usually good for that. Pinoyako, if you system is stable i think you should worry too much. Why dont you try to overclock?


coz my idle and load temps arent low enough :(  even with AS-5 i still get up to 65c TAT meaning if i OC this then i might get to 70ish temps which isnt good..

one big LOLS though..so i received a tube of AS-5 from a friend, and he also suggested lapping the HSF to a mirror finish..and so i did, and instead of the first mistake i did when applying HSF by speading it (well actually another friend applied it for me as im not familiar with reseating HSFs) i (and this time its 100% me) followed the guide as suggested on the AS-5 website, i also lapped the HSF to an almost mirror finish

so time to reinstall the HSF to the board and as ive read, its better to do it while outside the case to see if the push pins are in place...and so i did....

now the big LOLS..seeing the push pins in place, i decided to "lock" the push pins by twisting the pins as the arrow suggested..WRONG! apparently it "unlocks" the push pins..so i booted up, looked at PC HEALTH..and watched my temps (via BIOS) rise to almost 85c before it shut down..i thought..WTF?! did i overlap? what did i do wrong?

so i dissasembled the thing again, and looked at the HSF to see if there was contact..and there was indeed contact..smelled the proc, and no "burnt" or "funny" smell...so i cleaned up the HSF and Proc with ispropyl alcohol and reapplied the AS-5 (again as directed on the guide..that is to use only a grain of rice size at the center)

locked the HSF in place and noticed 1 pin was wobbly, so i read the Giagabyte manual (intel manual wasnt very helpful as to which way is to lock) and lo and behold i was supposed to go against the arrow to lock! lols

so i did..now pins in place and CPU is "normal" again..dunno if i overlapped (if theres such a thing) but temps are acceptable (comparable to stock with stock thermal pad for now) dunno how long before i see the benefits of the proper AS-5 application as well as lapping the HSF
March 10, 2007 6:39:33 AM

OMG! You almost barbeque'd it!!!!!! lol! Yes, i was considering doing that myself too, to get it as flat as possible but im scared to ruin it. Well, next step... overclock that mothereffer!!!!!!
March 10, 2007 8:04:49 AM

Yeah baby yeah!!! Just returned the 300 dollar memory and went with Corsair xms2 pc6400 memory for 119 dollars. Its work as good as the 300 dollar one. Weeeeeee!!!!!!!!! Im clocking at 3.6 rock steady!!!!!!
March 10, 2007 11:58:50 AM

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OMG! You almost barbeque'd it!!!!!! lol! Yes, i was considering doing that myself too, to get it as flat as possible but im scared to ruin it. Well, next step... overclock that mothereffer!!!!!!


lols, thankfully i had the thermal features on and it just shut down..arent intel procs designed to just throttle down and shutdown upon reaching a certain temp?
March 10, 2007 12:33:20 PM

were you referring to me? anyway, just did a mild OC (bump to 2100Mhz) anyway, idle and load temps rose by 2-3c ..WTF? i mean its such a mild OC..hmmm

Orthos Prime hit a max of 64c during the 10 minutes of testing.. but its 33c today so im sort of happy..will continue monitoring temps though..hopefully in a day or two this as-5 would have lowered my temps by 2-3 more degrees
March 10, 2007 10:22:17 PM

Well well, guess what? I decided to push this further and ended corrupting my hard drive. LOL! Luckily it was salvegable and just formatted and reinstalled windows. Turned out that 3.8 was way to high for this cooler. I managed to boot on 3.8 with cpu v at 1.5575 and it went online and tried playing BF2 and BSOD came on. Then windows never rebooted. hehehehe.. well im down clocking back to 3.5 until i get better cooler.
March 11, 2007 4:17:42 AM

hey arent you pushing it a bit too much? lols how much performance do you need anyway?

im at 2400Mhz now and wont push it further (thinking about returning to stock speeds too)

this has passed stability testing via Orthos (1 hour) and OCCT too, but the temps are a bit weird

here are my readings using TAT

room temp (30c)

stock

49c idle/61c load

2100Mhz

52c idle/65c load

2400Mhz

55c idle/66c load
a b à CPUs
March 11, 2007 5:03:34 AM

Quote:
Ok guys, this is my second post in here and i feel i should share this. I bought a E6300 with stock cooler. Bought a Ga-965P-S3. Bought OCZ2P8002GK ram. Also a 600 watt PSU. A 8800gts 320.

Ok... i followed the whole overclocking guide for the E6300 using this mobo and the results were good. I was able to hit 3.2 ghz stable with stock cooling. And what ever i did i could not get past it. So.... i decided to get really expensive ram. I ended up getting OCZ PC8500 which is rated at 1066 mhz. Just changing that memory I was able to bring this baby to 3.5 ghz with stock cooling. Amazing!!! I did flash the mobo bios to the most current version just in case but even tried the older ram and still could not get post 3.2. So everyone who buys this CPU with this motherboard, it is crucial to get ram able to hit 1000 ghz. other you will limit the potential of the processor speed. And keep in mind I'm using stock cooling so this rig is super good. All the benchmarks beat the E6700 extreme which cost around 600 dollars i believe. So this turned out money well spent. I have one more objective to to thou... I cannot keep the PC8500 memory cuz it cost me 300 dollars... and im not about to spend that much money on memory. Ive read all around about cheaper memory doing 1000mhz easily like Gail and patriots... which cost alot less. if anyone can suggest memory that hits 1000 mhz please let me know.. my budget is 200 dollars. hope this is good info. Also... the first memory which capped my cpu speed was a OCZ2P8002GK 4-5-4-15 PC6400 800mgz. Thgis is ok if you want to limit you cpu overclocking, but if you want more power get the higher mhz memory.


ZOMG 8O 1000ghz RAM? 1 THZ ram???!?!?!?

Gail ram that blows away the competition too?

Patriots in your computer too?!??!

800mgz!

ROFLMAO sorry dude

does it pass in prime95. orthos, or superpi under heavy load?
March 11, 2007 5:30:26 AM

funny how my temps are..idle temps are higher on my OC but load temps are almost the same

stock 49idle/62load
2100 53idle/64load
2400 57idle/65 load

tests mere made on Orthos Prime/same duration and same room temps (around 32c)
March 11, 2007 6:24:10 AM

Apache live, sorry its a typo.. i meant to write 1000mhz. Well at these speeds im getting 11024 score on 3dmark06. I have a 8800 gts from evga. All my games play incredibly smooth. So performacewise im about 30% faster than E6800 extreme that cost 600 dollars. So not bad for a 180 dollar chip. I just wish i coulsd reach 4 ghz. Im considering returning this processor and buying a E6600 since im reading alot of posts online about that cpu reaching 4 ghz on air only. But what if it dont?Only one way to find out.... :) 
March 11, 2007 2:09:11 PM

ok my OC settings so far

2333Mhz (333x7)
1.312 vcore

TAT readings

53 idle/63 load

tested stable on OCCT torture test
March 12, 2007 4:42:38 AM

yOU STILL HAVE MORE ROOM TO OVERCLCL IT!!! pUSH IT HARDER BABY!!!!
March 12, 2007 5:41:28 AM

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ok my OC settings so far

2333Mhz (333x7)
1.312 vcore

TAT readings

53 idle/63 load

tested stable on OCCT torture test


Kabayan!!! Hehe
Hey we have the same specs, except that i use DS3. My OC temp is lower than your stock speed. I'm using Scythe Ninja rev B.

I OC'ed my E6300 at 2.8 ghz with 35-40 degrees celcius at idle. This is at room temp from 28-33 degrees. I have 50 degrees at load, using ORTHOS.

Well my mobo temp plays around 44-45 degrees at load. Dang it!!! I believe it's because of the air flow, the ninja is big and somewhat obstructs air flow. I'm planning to buy a system cooler to bring down the mobo temp.

Get a decent aftermarket cooler. It will bring down the temp.
March 12, 2007 7:19:49 AM

lol, im happy with 2.33Ghz till i get decent cooling, i dont want to damage this chip

@kabayan, isnt the scythe heavy? im thinking of either the thermalright ultra 120 or the 9500LED, but im afraid id crack the mobo if i handle the CPU..:D 
March 12, 2007 10:58:39 AM

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lol, im happy with 2.33Ghz till i get decent cooling, i dont want to damage this chip

@kabayan, isnt the scythe heavy? im thinking of either the thermalright ultra 120 or the 9500LED, but im afraid id crack the mobo if i handle the CPU..:D 


Although big, the weight of the scythe ninja is at the base. The aluminum fins are light. It's really ok as long as you firmly seat it.

You won't crack the mobo. What i hate about socket 775 is the way the retention mechanism is placed. For the default heatsink and the likes, you need to push it to lock.
March 12, 2007 11:22:22 AM

to say the stock HSF's retention mechanism is crap would be an understatement..i nearly fried my proc because it didnt lock correctly,and the pins look so fragile i dont think it would last 10-15 HSF reseatings

BTW, waht volts are you running on that OC?

what about FSB and MCH overvolt protection?

can you suggest volt settings for me? the lowest stable possible please :) 
March 12, 2007 12:44:38 PM

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to say the stock HSF's retention mechanism is crap would be an understatement..i nearly fried my proc because it didnt lock correctly,and the pins look so fragile i dont think it would last 10-15 HSF reseatings

BTW, waht volts are you running on that OC?

what about FSB and MCH overvolt protection?

can you suggest volt settings for me? the lowest stable possible please :) 


I wouldnt be surprised if you already have damaged the processor or at least shortened its life by running it at 3.8 on a stock fan. That was just plain dumb.
Set it to 1.325 and see how high she goes. Watch the temps. Mine is completely stable at 3.4 using that voltage.

lol, i didnt even OC it past 2.4Ghz...moreso 3.8...i wont push it any further than 2.33Ghz until i get aftermarket cooling as even on 2.33 i get Orthos 100% Temps of 65c Coretemp and its too much for me..
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