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So I did my civic duty as a forum poster to download and run 3dmark06. Scored 8281 stock and 9022 oc'ed. The numbers though, however good or bad, seem not to mean much. Are there any generalized scales out there that say OK you scored xxxx and you can play this group of games at this resolution with little to no difficulty. I mean are the scores just simply numbers that have no corelation to anything. How can they be relevant? Just a question from a somewhat perplexed poster. Thanks in advance for replies.

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What's the system?

I would say score looks normal, but we need to know the parts.

3DMark is more a "e-penis". It shows you have a "faster, better, rig" than someone else. They're basically numbers, very little meaning.

Reply to prozac26

Interesting idea about the generalised scales. I don't remember seeing anything of the sort anywhere.
My opinion though is that programs such as 3Dmark are not relevant in informing us about actual gameplay.
OK, a card that scores 10000 is indeed better than one that scores 5000 but that's it really. If you want to know how your card will perform, relative to other cards, in the games you prefer, check D3D games or OpenGL games. These are the basic two groups of games that show a card's capabilities.
After that you can check games based on a particular graphics engine (ie Doom3, Half Life 2) to get an idea.

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e6600, p5n32 sli se deluxe, evga 8800gts 320 (superclocked), 1g crucial ballistix @667, 74g wd raptor.

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The idea of using scores to assess the competence of your system though, seems to be coming to fruition with Vista. As it has it's little rating system and I believe games are going to start coming out with a Vista rating so that you can use it to decide if you have the computational power to play said game. I wish that they could somehow apply that same type of scaling to 3dmark06 as 1) it's free (unlike Vista) and 2) a huge number or users all ready know their score.

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As prozac stated, it's more of a "mines better than yours" type of thing.
With games, you find minimum spec's and recommended spec's, so you know if your system will run a particular game or not. Maybe if game developers added FPS to the details it would give you more understanding.

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What's the system?

I would say score looks normal, but we need to know the parts.

3DMark is more a "e-penis". It shows you have a "faster, better, rig" than someone else. They're basically numbers, very little meaning.



Fool those who measure their pc by 3dmarks benches. I can have the topest cpu and a riva tnt in it, and it won't even score a lolish Zero, yet it's still awesome for everything besides gaming.

Reply to rickzor

Yes, but it's only a generalisation, and a very broad one at that, since the possible configurations are so numerous. There are different things that could affect the 3Dmark score and each could have impact on different kinds of software.

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The idea of using scores to assess the competence of your system though, seems to be coming to fruition with Vista. As it has it's little rating system and I believe games are going to start coming out with a Vista rating so that you can use it to decide if you have the computational power to play said game.



I hate this Vista scoring system. It implies that consumers are retarded, that they couldn't figure it out by comparing the spec of their system with the requirements. And if they can't, well they shouldn't be buying the game, cause they sure won't know how to install it! :lol:

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I don't know if the Vista scoring system implies that we're stupid. I think it is a good measuring stick for those that are not so computer savvy. And while I see your point there is still the issues of things like AA and screen res. that make major differences in performance and even as someone with a moderate amount of knowledge I find myself wondering how certain games will play with the higher features turned on, so for myself I wouldn't mind an extra tool to better gauge system performance in tougher applications.

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So I did my civic duty as a forum poster to download and run 3dmark06. Scored 8281 stock and 9022 oc'ed. The numbers though, however good or bad, seem not to mean much. Are there any generalized scales out there that say OK you scored xxxx and you can play this group of games at this resolution with little to no difficulty. I mean are the scores just simply numbers that have no corelation to anything. How can they be relevant? Just a question from a somewhat perplexed poster. Thanks in advance for replies.



Actually Futuremark just released a tool that does just that on it's new gamers website.

It scans your pc and then gives you a general idea of how your pc can handle a game and gives you an idea where you might be lacking. It has over a 100 games on it too, so chance are whatever game you're thinking about will be on there.

Here's the link
http://www.yougamers.com/

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I don't know if the Vista scoring system implies that we're stupid. I think it is a good measuring stick for those that are not so computer savvy.



Perhaps I was being a little harsh, I just can't stand being led around by the nose.

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And while I see your point there is still the issues of things like AA and screen res. that make major differences in performance and even as someone with a moderate amount of knowledge I find myself wondering how certain games will play with the higher features turned on, so for myself I wouldn't mind an extra tool to better gauge system performance in tougher applications.



Not sure if the scoring system will help with this, AA is generally only possible on high end cards anyway, but we'll have to see what happens in the next 6 months or so.

EDIT: actually, not sure about the AA thing.... works fine on my brother's 7800GT and that certainly isn't high end any more. :oops:

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wow, thanks for the link/info grifter. That's the type of useful measuring stick I was thinking of.

P.S. gste- I was not offended by your retarded comment, your point was very valid. But thanks for pointing out the "harshness"

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Actually Futuremark just released a tool that does just that on it's new gamers website.

It scans your pc and then gives you a general idea of how your pc can handle a game and gives you an idea where you might be lacking. It has over a 100 games on it too, so chance are whatever game you're thinking about will be on there.

Here's the link
http://www.yougamers.com/



This highlights the problems I think we'll see with the Vista scorer; I just ran it on my system to check how well equipped I am for Medieval 2 (a game I own and play with everything on high). It says I just meet the basic requirements, yet am far short of their recommended system. They recommend:

P4 3.8GHz/Athlon 3700+;
256MB 7800GT/ATi X1800;
2048MB RAM;
9GB HDD space;
Windows 2000.

I have:

C2D E6600@3.6GHz;
512MB 7900GTO;
3072MB RAM;
120GB free space on WD Raptor;
XP Home.

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That's a much better one, works great

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