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I think you missed the point, By. What is required is to make an
exact clone of a complete hard drive, on a second hard drive.
Yes it is tiresome and cumbersome, with a many-person bulletin
board for communicating.
You bring up a point I hadn't thought of. Naively I expected
that what works fine with all-Western Digital drives would work
the same way with Seagate drives. Now you've added one more
parameter to the process. I've done everything Richard Urban
told me to, and it usually works, but fails too often to ignore. I'm
convinced that I've followed his guaranteed processes exactly.....
but now I'm going to see if it's the frive manufacture that's the
snake in the grass. I'm going to try to pin that down before anybody
hears from me again.
ByTor wrote:
> In article <#UMNXraLFHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>, billurie@nospam.org,
> says...
>
>
>>ByTor wrote:
>>
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>>>In article <OCSyhYXLFHA.2120@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, billurie@nospam.org,
>>>says...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Richard Urban wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>A created image MUST be restored to the same relative position on the hard
>>>>>drive. That is, if the image was created of drive 0, partition 0 - it must
>>>>>be restored to the same drive and partition. If it is not, it won't boot!
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dear Crus:
>>>>Master Drive is HDD-0.....I made Drive Image and saved it
>>>>to HDD-1, but NOT position-0.... On HDD-1, Position 0 is
>>>>Unallocated, Large enough, Primary. That's the start of
>>>>what becomes in service my Slave drive.
>>>
>>>
>>>Are you doing a disk to disk copy????...."Saved to HDD-1, but NOT
>>>position 0?????" Nothing wrong with that. An image *file* can be store
>>>anywhere on HD's except the OS space.
>>>
>>>This is where it's confusing for me with the start of your description
>>>from your first post. As was said you *CANNOT* restore an image of an OS
>>>that was made from one position on a HD and expect it to work an an
>>>alternate position on a partition position, let alone a *totally*
>>>different HD unless it's *restored* to its exact position.
>>>You can put an *image* file in bumhoots arizona, it can be restored from
>>>anywhere as long as it's back to its *original* position.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Now I powered down, removed Master Drive, Jumpered the
>>>>Slave Drive to be Master or Single, as WD labels it, and
>>>>alone on the system, placed on the IDE cable in Master
>>>>Position. Ran PQRE, telling it to Restore from the Drive
>>>>Image, to the #0 position. I followed all other instructions,
>>>>no MBR, etcetera, plus Make Drive Active and Reboot. It
>>>>ran fine, and started to reboot.......and hung after BIOS,
>>>>at last stage (Boot from Disk) as described before.
>>>
>>>
>>>It did not run fine it hung.......Let me get this straight? You removed
>>>your "Primary" IDE drive, replaced it with another.....Where did you
>>>"Restore From The Drive Image????" as you stated. Is there another
>>>partition on that drive with the image file????
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>If you have no corrections to make to my procedure, and
>>>>no advice as to what else I can do......I will repeat
>>>>the entire procedure on a different hard drive in Slave
>>>>position. Maybe something is bad about this drive.
>>>
>>>
>>>From what I gather you will be going around in circles for no reason. I
>>>think, from what I gather, is the image you are trying to restore was
>>>made from a different position partition OS and you are refusing to
>>>understand that *IT* won't work unless it's goes back to the same
>>>partition#/position...............
>>>It has nothing to do with the software you are using.....
>>>
>>>Unless you can give a better description, as I find your description of
>>>your situation a little confusing, I may understand a little better &
>>>give you a hand............
>>>
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>
>>Dear "By"....
>>I'm sure I described carefully, that what fails sometimes, has been
>>done *exactly* as you said. Original source was in first position on its
>>hard drive, and I have been finding that sometimes I am unable
>>to get it to boot, when restored to the *first* position on another
>>hard drive. Yes, the image can be anywhere, and yes, I always
>>try to restore it to the same position it came from.
>>
>>
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>
> Is it possible that you may have mistakingly imaged your OS the first
> time in what you thought was a "Primary" partition??? When in fact it
> was a Logical & now you're trying to restore it to a Primary 1st
> position??? Or Vice/Verse???? Sometimes with PartitionMagic people do
> not look when they create their partitions and forget to look at the
> type when it is created....it always marks "logical" in the drop down by
> default.....
>
> Maybe a *blunt* question is in order.....Why don't you just put
> everything where you want it, create a new partition for your OS and do
> a clean install???? It appears that this thread is becoming cumbersome
> as many options are being explored......The guessing game grows tiresome
> after a bit......
> I'm not trying to be a Dick but obviously whatever is happening it's not
> working and racking your brain is a moot point.....
> But on an end note I have had experiences where images from lets say
> "Seagate" drives restored to Maxtors lets say gave me a helluva
> problem....And believe me when it comes to images/restores I have been
> there, done that, *QUITE* a bit..........
>
> Good Luck!
>
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William B. Lurie