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What is a "Clean Upgrade" from WIN98 SE to W2K?

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Anonymous
May 15, 2005 3:35:29 PM

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Please tell me what a "clean upgrade" is. Is it a choice I will be
offered at the beginning by the W2K Pro install program?

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Anonymous
May 15, 2005 3:35:30 PM

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Be advised that upgrades from win9x almost always fail for any number of
reasons. Save yourself some time and trouble, given that you'll more than
likely end up with an unstable OS with all the remnants/ corruption left
behind from the upgrade. Best to blow it all away and go for the clean
install.

To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 CD-Rom or setup disks.
The set of four install disks can be created from your Win2k CD-rom; change
to the \bootdisk directory on the cd-rom and execute makeboot.exe (from dos)
or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the prompts.

When you get to the point, delete the existing NTFS and or other partitions
found. After you delete the partition(s) abort the install, then again
restart the pc booting the CD-Rom or setup disks to avoid unexpected drive
letter assignments with your new install.

During Windows 2000 setup, at some point, will want to confirm the previous
operating system for the upgrade; at that point you'll simply insert the
qualified product install CD for it to verify. Then the install will
proceed.

Check the pc, mb or hardware manufacturer's web site for the latest bios and
or Windows 2000 drivers for your devices.

If all you have is a pc manufacturer's win98 restore CD-Rom then the best
you can do is clean install win98 then before installing anything start the
upgrade process by inserting the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom.

Be sure to apply these to your new install before connecting to any network.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D...
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03...
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03...


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"aaa1steve" wrote:
| Please tell me what a "clean upgrade" is. Is it a choice I will be
| offered at the beginning by the W2K Pro install program?
|
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Anonymous
May 15, 2005 11:59:13 PM

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It is an install of W2k (or any OS) to a freshly formatted partition.

Strictly speaking, it's not an upgrade but an entirely new install that
does not carry any settings forward from a predecessor OS. Semanticists
might argue it's an upgrade, and in a sense it is - but not in the
Microsoft sense. Ambiguity reigns, as always.

As others point out, an "upgrade" from W9x to W2k is an iffy
proposition, since subtle registry errors that DOS-based systems don't
care about can make life very tedious when they are applied to W2k. It's
much, much smarter to do a clean install of W2k.



aaa1steve wrote:
> Please tell me what a "clean upgrade" is. Is it a choice I will be
> offered at the beginning by the W2K Pro install program?
>
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Anonymous
May 16, 2005 5:35:33 PM

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"Dave Patrick" wrote:
> Be advised that upgrades from win9x almost always fail for any
> number of
> reasons. Save yourself some time and trouble, given that
> you'll more than
> likely end up with an unstable OS with all the remnants/
> corruption left
> behind from the upgrade. Best to blow it all away and go for
> the clean
> install.
>
> To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 CD-Rom or
> setup disks.
> The set of four install disks can be created from your Win2k
> CD-rom; change
> to the bootdisk directory on the cd-rom and execute
> makeboot.exe (from dos)
> or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the prompts.
>
> When you get to the point, delete the existing NTFS and or
> other partitions
> found. After you delete the partition(s) abort the install,
> then again
> restart the pc booting the CD-Rom or setup disks to avoid
> unexpected drive
> letter assignments with your new install.
>
> During Windows 2000 setup, at some point, will want to confirm
> the previous
> operating system for the upgrade; at that point you'll simply
> insert the
> qualified product install CD for it to verify. Then the
> install will
> proceed.
>
> Check the pc, mb or hardware manufacturer's web site for the
> latest bios and
> or Windows 2000 drivers for your devices.
>
> If all you have is a pc manufacturer's win98 restore CD-Rom
> then the best
> you can do is clean install win98 then before installing
> anything start the
> upgrade process by inserting the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom.
>
> Be sure to apply these to your new install before connecting
> to any network.
>
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D...
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03...
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03...
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
> "aaa1steve" wrote:
> | Please tell me what a "clean upgrade" is. Is it a choice I
> will be
> | offered at the beginning by the W2K Pro install program?
> |
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I think I understand. Just want to double-check a few things here.

I’ll be getting the W2K CD in a few days, and I have the ability
during my PC start-up to hit "C" to boot from my CD-ROM drive. Must
I create a set of start-up disks, or are you just suggesting that as
one option (I guess for people who can only boot from their floppy
drive)?

Secondly, I have no partitions of my C or D hard drives (both FAT).
So should I just ignore your instructions about "delete partitions,
abort install" etc.? I’m not wanting to fool with my hard drive
formatting or the files there (other than WIN98 stuff of course).

BTW, my WIN98 OS has been fairly stable re hardware devices, etc.

Thanks for your time and help.
Anonymous
May 16, 2005 5:35:33 PM

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"aaa1steve" wrote:
| I think I understand. Just want to double-check a few things here.
|
| I'll be getting the W2K CD in a few days, and I have the ability
| during my PC start-up to hit "C" to boot from my CD-ROM drive. Must
| I create a set of start-up disks, or are you just suggesting that as
| one option (I guess for people who can only boot from their floppy
| drive)?
* It's only one or the other. Yes, best to boot the CD-Rom if possible.

| Secondly, I have no partitions of my C or D hard drives (both FAT).
| So should I just ignore your instructions about "delete partitions,
| abort install" etc.? I'm not wanting to fool with my hard drive
| formatting or the files there (other than WIN98 stuff of course).
* No, backup your data and delete all partition info found. NTFS is the
native file system of Windows 2000

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Anonymous
May 17, 2005 7:35:47 PM

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"Dave Patrick" wrote:
> "aaa1steve" wrote:
> | I think I understand. Just want to double-check a few
> things here.
> |
> | I'll be getting the W2K CD in a few days, and I have the
> ability
> | during my PC start-up to hit "C" to boot from my CD-ROM
> drive. Must
> | I create a set of start-up disks, or are you just suggesting
> that as
> | one option (I guess for people who can only boot from their
> floppy
> | drive)?
> * It's only one or the other. Yes, best to boot the CD-Rom if
> possible.
>
> | Secondly, I have no partitions of my C or D hard drives
> (both FAT).
> | So should I just ignore your instructions about "delete
> partitions,
> | abort install" etc.? I'm not wanting to fool with my hard
> drive
> | formatting or the files there (other than WIN98 stuff of
> course).
> * No, backup your data and delete all partition info found.
> NTFS is the
> native file system of Windows 2000
>
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> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect

Still trying to understand the implications for my data on the hard
drives. I will back up first. But will the W2K install program
convert my drives from FAT to NTFS and leave my data intact, assuming
all goes well?

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Anonymous
May 18, 2005 1:22:22 AM

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You can but that's definitely not the best way to go about it.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
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"aaa1steve" wrote:
| Still trying to understand the implications for my data on the hard
| drives. I will back up first. But will the W2K install program
| convert my drives from FAT to NTFS and leave my data intact, assuming
| all goes well?
|
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