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March 9, 2007 3:23:44 PM

Rob Enderle is wondering why we have 1000-horsepower cars on the street and aren’t shy showing off the performance of supercars, while we are hiding the performance of modern PCs under our desks. Why is it that PCs have to be boring and how would a Bugatti PC look like? Share your opinion with us!

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March 9, 2007 3:57:19 PM

Enderle huh? Interesting character...

Who says PC's are boring? Not to an enthusiast! It's a great hobby since things change constantly and you never run out of things to play with. I love to buy last year's premium parts off the clearance table and overclock the snot out of them! (Sounds a little bit like the hot-rodder tweaking his engine doesn't it!)

Unfortunately, to the majority of people out there PC's are a pain in the posterior and therefore I would say they're classified as "boring". Just try talking about upcoming processors to a "regular person" and their eyes glaze over and they change the subject.

Fast cars on the other hand are visual and durable. What was fast in 1969 is still impressive today (ahhhh... my dream car, a '69 Chevelle SS396!) Can't say that about a two year old PC :-)
March 9, 2007 4:04:26 PM

Scout,

You should know that your dream car needs to be a (68 Camaro SS with a 396 375!!!) ;) 

Man you noobs :) 

J/k!!

It would seem that many would take offense to the above statement just as they would about an Nvidia/ATI comment or heaven forbid a Intel/AMD comment.
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March 9, 2007 4:18:59 PM

This high performance computer needs to have a custom hard drive composed of M-RAM being manufactured by Freescale. At 4M bits per chip, it might take up quite a bit of space, and a price of $25 for each chip equates to $50,000 per Gigabyte. To some extent, the speed won't be fully realized by a SATA II interface, but it would be one really fast system. For someone with $1.3 Million to waste, it is the best way to get performance for your investment.
March 9, 2007 4:38:07 PM

I think in the enthusiats group you actually see folks with the same attitudes..

They will talk about their machine and "what its got under the hood"...

And as far as the Bugatti style machine I think you have those in the Boutique sales... Falcon, Dell (now 8O ), Alien (still Dell 8O), ...

When you are talking about machines that run upwards of 10 thousand for a Personal Computer, I think that would qualify.

Then you have the Hyundai of the computer world the Emachines :) 
March 9, 2007 5:10:58 PM

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Rob Enderle is wondering why we have 1000-horsepower cars on the street and aren’t shy showing off the performance of supercars, while we are hiding the performance of modern PCs under our desks. Why is it that PCs have to be boring and how would a Bugatti PC look like? Share your opinion with us!


It seems like a foolish analogy. I don't recall seeing PC's cruising PCH in SoCal. Your PC is impressive to you or anyone using your comp with its "screen performance". Fan LED's , strobes, all of that kind of garbage is about as impressive as spinner hubcaps. Show me something where it counts....on my LCD.

The only relevant analogy that can work in this situation is the "hourglass" being equivalent to turbo lag.
March 9, 2007 5:47:08 PM

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Cool Mods


Rofl ! Excellent link, there is some really cool stuff on there.
March 9, 2007 5:53:19 PM

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Scout,

You should know that your dream car needs to be a (68 Camaro SS with a 396 375!!!) ;) 

Man you noobs :) 

J/k!!


Personally, I'd rather have a 1970 Barracuda convertible with a 426 hemi, or maybe the first car I ever owned, a 59 Chevy impala with a 350hp 348 and three deuces. Ah, nostalgia.

Back to computers, why not house a computer in the Bugatti and get the best of both worlds?
March 9, 2007 5:59:09 PM

I would love to buy the Veron car if it was ONLY 1.3 mio dollars... Unfortually i live in Denmark, Europe, and we have some crazy tax system with charges atleast 180% in tax when buying a car... for example the Veron cost 4.4 mio dollars and a normal car like a VW golf cost like 54000 $ for a 1.4 litre.... All we danes hate when people from other countries talks about how expencive their supercars is... In denmark you have to multipli that with 3... Cheers and totally off topic
March 9, 2007 7:06:10 PM

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I would love to buy the Veron car if it was ONLY 1.3 mio dollars... Unfortually i live in Denmark, Europe, and we have some crazy tax system with charges atleast 180% in tax when buying a car... for example the Veron cost 4.4 mio dollars and a normal car like a VW golf cost like 54000 $ for a 1.4 litre.... All we danes hate when people from other countries talks about how expencive their supercars is... In denmark you have to multipli that with 3... Cheers and totally off topic


Couldn't you buy it somewhere else, perhaps Germany, and then just drive it home? :? Or are your borders too secure for that?
March 9, 2007 7:49:18 PM

lately I'm having a real hard time deciding if I want a Ford GT40 more than I want an 1966 AC Cobra
March 9, 2007 8:29:31 PM

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Rob Enderle is wondering why we have 1000-horsepower cars on the street and aren’t shy showing off the performance of supercars, while we are hiding the performance of modern PCs under our desks. Why is it that PCs have to be boring and how would a Bugatti PC look like? Share your opinion with us!


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March 9, 2007 9:13:04 PM

only thing I can think of is, it would have to be british green and understated.
March 9, 2007 10:21:48 PM

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Show me something where it counts....on my LCD.


I completely agree. Of course your machine needs to look like a work of art. Laptops especially, but looks are nothing next to great underlying hardware and software that puts the power in perspective. My Bugatti PC would be this:

CPU: Quad Core Processor
RAM: 2 Gigs at least
O.S.: Ubuntu Linux + Beryl (Windows Vista is just going to waste additional resources)

If you haven't seen what beryl can do you need to visit youtube. I've gotten several people to turn there heads and ask: "what the #$@ is that?" when they saw my old Thinkpad T40 running Linux+Beryl. Lets just face it, Windows is a Ford, Linux is a Mercedes, and Linux+Beryl has to be a Bugatti.

Flames are welcome, but mostly ignored.
March 10, 2007 4:45:52 AM

What is wrong with your head? Why would I be so stupid as to need a lcd screen to remind me how fast my processor is? It's got 2 significant figures for gods sake. Second, why would I want lights to tell me my computers getting hot? I dont want it to get fucking hot! That's why I bought fans. Also why would anyone think that their pc is something that should be shown off? It's a personal device, unlike a car or a wicked set of speakers. Do I really care if some 14 year old knows I spent 2k on it? I'd get more enjoyment out of standing at a high school urinal with blinking red led lights strung around my dick then flaunting hardware to nobodies.
Also what's the point in showing off a computer? In a month it's second best. I don't think most people would get all that much pleasure from one month of owning the best.
If my computer needs red led lights to tell me it's hot, I think it would have to be useful only if it was about to catch fire. I think wiring a febrezze pluggin to my exhaust fan would be a better mod then a bunch of useless numbers.

Computers are about being quiet, not crashing, and playing games and or getting work done. Anyone who thinks there a status symbol should get a night job and buy a real one.
March 10, 2007 5:41:14 AM

personally i dont think its thinks like LED Fans and Cold Cathodes which make PCs look cool, i think hardware, like dual x1950PROs look cool, and if you have one by MSI with its blue translucent cover and one by Sapphire with its red one, and a cool looking heat sink like the Zalman CNPS 9700LED, it looks much better than a 8800GTX with some shitty LED fans (no offense) and i don't think LED fans are all that cool either, i like the high flow ones by evercool that are metal, i think that kind of setup in a piano black case with a white cold cathode just to light up the setup would look specifically cool.
March 10, 2007 10:25:27 AM

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I would love to buy the Veron car if it was ONLY 1.3 mio dollars... Unfortually i live in Denmark, Europe, and we have some crazy tax system with charges atleast 180% in tax when buying a car... for example the Veron cost 4.4 mio dollars and a normal car like a VW golf cost like 54000 $ for a 1.4 litre.... All we danes hate when people from other countries talks about how expencive their supercars is... In denmark you have to multipli that with 3... Cheers and totally off topic


Couldn't you buy it somewhere else, perhaps Germany, and then just drive it home? :? Or are your borders too secure for that?

In Europe if you stay (live in a country) for a specific period of time it is not alowed to drive in a car that is not registered in that country. You have to have an adress in Germany and not live in Denmark for more than 3-4 months of a year to be able to own a "german car"... otherwise all danes would do that... btw for example a 1989 golf 1.6 litre cost like 5800 dollars... now that is fucked up!
March 10, 2007 12:29:46 PM

Quote:
Scout,

You should know that your dream car needs to be a (68 Camaro SS with a 396 375!!!) ;) 

Man you noobs :) 

J/k!!

It would seem that many would take offense to the above statement just as they would about an Nvidia/ATI comment or heaven forbid a Intel/AMD comment.


68 GTO! 71 Hemi Cuda Convertible!
March 10, 2007 12:40:12 PM

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I'd get more enjoyment out of standing at a high school urinal with blinking red led lights strung around my dick then flaunting hardware to nobodies.


Thats kind of a wierd analogy. :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
March 10, 2007 12:52:20 PM

In my experience with cars, there has been two poles when it comes to preferences in a vehicles appearence versus its performance.

On the one hand you have the "Show" crowd, and on the other you have the "Go" crowd, and in between you have the "In-between" owners.

I have been part of the Go crowd. I prefer to have a sleeper vehicle that looks stock but actually has performance that exceeds stock under the hood and in the rest of the car. Getting more horsepower rather than a flashy paint job is more appealing to me; or a better suspension to pull more lateral Gs.

It is similar with a computer. I do not care how it looks. The computer must first be stable, then I select components with give me options to overclock, and components which have all of the capabilities I desire.

For example, I currently am running an Intel E6600 at 3.6GHz (50% overclock) on an eVGA motherboard, with 2 GB ram at 1000MHz, 8800GTX (DX10 capable), and a 150GB Raptor hard drive. While it may not be the fastest or most powerful, it is up there in the performance; as well as, the value is excellent because of the overclocking. Additionally, it is totally stable.

The case is a beige server size case, no windows or lights, inside the cables are not all neat and tidy. Those matter not to me. What matters most to me is that I can run applications with all the options turn on.
March 10, 2007 3:12:21 PM

Comparing driving a car to using a computer really makes very little sense. First, driving a car is a visceral experience, being pushed into the back of the seat under hard acceleration off the line or hammering it at the apex of a curve, braking done to hit the next curve at the right speed to gain speed coming out, or catching a car up when it begins to break lose. No matter how fast a computer is you will not physically feel it. If I’m sitting at a light and someone thinks they’re faster than me, it’s easy to settle, who ever is in front at the end wins. In addition, the driver plays a much more important role in a car. Auto crossing I’ve seen much slower cars get much better times because of the driver. Also for cars, especially fast cars, form follows function, i.e., aerodynamics are important. While a modded case maybe a thing of beauty, it doesn’t add to performance. You don’t have to be concerned with down drafts and minimizing air resistance with a computer. Finally, and maybe most importantly, women would rather be seen cruising around in a beautiful car than be seen sitting next to a nicely modded computer.
March 10, 2007 3:33:30 PM

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Finally, and maybe most importantly, women would rather be seen cruising around in a beautiful car than be seen sitting next to a nicely modded computer.


You got that right. I haven't met the woman yet that would rather sit by a computer, however it was modded, instead of riding around in my Cobra.
March 11, 2007 1:53:17 AM

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I have been part of the Go crowd. I prefer to have a sleeper vehicle that looks stock but actually has performance that exceeds stock under the hood and in the rest of the car. Getting more horsepower rather than a flashy paint job is more appealing to me; or a better suspension to pull more lateral Gs.

It is similar with a computer. I do not care how it looks. The computer must first be stable, then I select components with give me options to overclock, and components which have all of the capabilities I desire.

For example, I currently am running an Intel E6600 at 3.6GHz (50% overclock) on an eVGA motherboard, with 2 GB ram at 1000MHz, 8800GTX (DX10 capable), and a 150GB Raptor hard drive. While it may not be the fastest or most powerful, it is up there in the performance; as well as, the value is excellent because of the overclocking. Additionally, it is totally stable.

The case is a beige server size case, no windows or lights, inside the cables are not all neat and tidy. Those matter not to me. What matters most to me is that I can run applications with all the options turn on.


100% agree with you. There's nothing more annoying than some obnoxious kid in their P.O.S. with a loud exhaust and more power in their stereo than their engine.

As for your PC; if someone breaks into your house there's the added advantage that they'll be less inclined to steal it, because, by your description, it looks like it's running a 486 or a P1 tops.
March 11, 2007 6:02:38 AM

g-paw,

You focused on the dissimilarities; while Mr. Enderle and I focused on the similarities.

All analogies fail to some extent because they compare things that are not exactally alike.
March 11, 2007 12:44:48 PM

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g-paw,

You focused on the dissimilarities; while Mr. Enderle and I focused on the similarities.

All analogies fail to some extent because they compare things that are not exactally alike.


You're absolutely right about analogies. The point I was trying to make is that I don't think comparing performance and appearance between computers and cars make for good analogies. Certainly the idiocies of fanboys are similar as well as the reliability of cars and computers in an historical perspective, or even large computer manufactures buying up smaller specialized companies, e.g., Gateway buying E Machine or Dell and HP buying there way into high end gaming machines, are valid and interesting. Obviously I care about computers or I wouldn’t be here but I have never had any feelings comparable to cruising in a newly waxed car or the sensations described in my previous post while using a computer but that may just be me. Nor have I ever impressed women with a computer, not that I’ve impressed that many women with any of my cars having to rely mostly on my charm and good looks, and no I’m not a virgin. :D 
March 11, 2007 4:40:18 PM

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I would love to buy the Veron car if it was ONLY 1.3 mio dollars... Unfortually i live in Denmark, Europe, and we have some crazy tax system with charges atleast 180% in tax when buying a car... for example the Veron cost 4.4 mio dollars and a normal car like a VW golf cost like 54000 $ for a 1.4 litre.... All we danes hate when people from other countries talks about how expencive their supercars is... In denmark you have to multipli that with 3... Cheers and totally off topic


Couldn't you buy it somewhere else, perhaps Germany, and then just drive it home? :? Or are your borders too secure for that?


that would be too easy dont you think?
i come from denmark too and no, you would have to register it to get your licence plates. then some guys "evaluates" your new car, and then you have to pay the 180% in top of what they think it is worth...

actualy we used to have europes cheapes cars if you didnt count the tax..
but as people started to go to denmark to buy their cars (only danes have to pay the tax) it is getting more even.

one thing that is still true is, that when you buy a car in denmark it has as little cdplayer, gps and clima-systems as posible. cuz if you install these later you wont have to pay tax on those(apart from the 25% standart tax)
March 11, 2007 4:41:56 PM

i just found out NOXdk already replied..
sorry about repeating
March 11, 2007 5:30:04 PM

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Scout,

You should know that your dream car needs to be a (68 Camaro SS with a 396 375!!!) ;) 

Man you noobs :) 

J/k!!

It would seem that many would take offense to the above statement just as they would about an Nvidia/ATI comment or heaven forbid a Intel/AMD comment.


ford gt40
March 11, 2007 10:19:15 PM

A Bugatti pc would look overpriced and stupid. There is a very big difference between a car that breaks the very definition of innovation and a pc that you would just slap pre-made parts on. Also a pc would never give you the sense of speed or excitement as going 253 mph in a car that has 4 turbo chargers and 10 inter coolers.
March 11, 2007 10:22:49 PM

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Finally, and maybe most importantly, women would rather be seen cruising around in a beautiful car than be seen sitting next to a nicely modded computer.


Bingo!

And as far as older sports cars go, is there really any question?

Ferrari 250 GTO
March 11, 2007 10:54:51 PM

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Finally, and maybe most importantly, women would rather be seen cruising around in a beautiful car than be seen sitting next to a nicely modded computer.


Bingo!

And as far as older sports cars go, is there really any question?

Ferrari 250 GTO

Oh hey, my ultimate dream car, a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO Berlinetta. Could have bought one for about $10,000 back around 1970. Now they sell for many millions. Couldn't afford the insurance, much less the extended payment plan.
March 12, 2007 5:02:24 AM

We were discussing the muscle cars but I guess I could add my supercar wish too...

Lamborghini Countach Quatrovalve V12 1986...
March 12, 2007 12:50:50 PM

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We were discussing the muscle cars


Hey, I owned a Barracuda with a 426 hemi stuffed in it, and and also a Duster with a 440 "six pack". Nothing wrong with them. But they are very one dimensional cars when you consider cornering, braking, rally performance etc. Moving from the Midwest to North LA (Mulholland drive), really opened up my perspective on "performance".

As to beauty, well that is surely in the eye of the beholder, but the 250 GTO was not only one of the last GT cars, it also set the design standard for sports cars being copied by Jaguar, Datsun and others.
March 12, 2007 1:48:26 PM

are you talkin just a GTO or are you talkin '68 Judge, ramair 4 with a 4 speed and dual quad?
March 12, 2007 2:57:49 PM

Yeah Quantum,

That Gem is a Gem...

Anyone remember when the 959 was released?? That was wicked... Now since the trunk (If you can call it that) on the gem would be just big enough to fit an elite PC that might be the way to go...
March 12, 2007 2:59:29 PM

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the trunk (If you can call it that)


No you can't call it "the trunk", it's called "the boot".

Silly americanisations :p :p :p :D :D :p :p :p .

Hmm that 959...was that 1989?
March 12, 2007 3:03:14 PM

So Quantum,

Are you saying you use your trolley to carry your suitcases to put in the boot?

Then drive to city "Centre" where your car breaks down and you have to lift the Bonnet?

:) 
March 12, 2007 3:04:31 PM

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So Quantum,

Are you saying you use your trolley to carry your suitcases to put in the boot?

Then drive to city "Centre" and where your car breaks down and you have to lift the Bonnet?

:) 


Yes, yes i do :D 

What's the city "Centre" called over there in the US of A?
March 12, 2007 3:06:00 PM

City "Center" not "Centre" :) 

Is your bird with you? When you go for a tool about?

Are you a bloke? :) 

:) 
March 12, 2007 3:08:05 PM

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City "Center" not "Centre" :) 

Is your bird with you? When you go for a tool about?

:) 


Center is an illogical spelling :roll:

Then again, at least we can understand each other. Trying to speak to a native Scottish Highlander/Geordie (someone who comes from Newcastle) is a challenge and a half!
March 12, 2007 3:11:19 PM

Hey Quantum say "Aluminum"!!

You know you want to :) 

Funny hearing Brits/Aussies say that...

AL - LU - MIN - IUM Is the way I have heard it... :)  Still not sure where that second I comes from :) 
March 12, 2007 3:12:32 PM

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Hey Quantum say "Aluminum"!!

You know you want to :) 

Funny hearing Brits/Aussies say that...

AL - LU - MIN - IUM Is the way I have heard it... :)  Still not sure where that second I comes from :) 


The correct spelling perhaps? :p 

One thing that irks me about a few of your fellow countrymen is their insistence that "American" is a language.
March 12, 2007 3:18:53 PM

For some reason the US is taught "Aluminum" not "Aluminium"...

Not sure why... Even our periodic tables spell it that way.....
March 12, 2007 4:59:59 PM

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One thing that irks me about a few of your fellow countrymen is their insistence that "American" is a language.


To describe English in America, as Henry Higgens said, "They haven't used it in years". Having English ancestry and having traveled to England, I would never call what is spoken in America as being English. Therefore it is probably best to call it American and be done with it.
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