3.0 ghz 1333 FSB Conroes to be $266 (!!??) in Q3 this year?

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OK...

The link is from a chinese site HKEPC, which is usually, but not always right...

http://www.chipzilla.com/default.aspx?article=38133
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/hwdb.php?tid=753250&tp=Intel-c2d-e6050&rid=753256

Q6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 1066 4MB x 2 $530
Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 1066 4MB x 2 $266
E6850 Conroe 3GHz 1333 4MB $266
E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz 1333 $183
E6550 Conroe 2.33GHz 1333 $163

Wow - a 1333 fsb 2.66 part for $ 183.. that is scary!

This "kinda" does make sense however.

Intel has confirmed a 1600 mhz FSB for their server chips, so clearly a 1600 mhz fsb for the consumer side is possible.

IF (huge if) intel is planning:

3.6 ghz on 1600 FSB @ $999
3.4 ghz on 1600 FSB @ $525
3.2 ghz on 1600 FSB @ $316

for Q3 then these part "seems" to make sense.

Clearly intel has the headroom to release the 3.6 ghz parts.. it may be a very interesting Q3 if Barcelona/Athena work as promised :)
 

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Ya, I've seen this already, It makes me want to cry. Well time to hold out and have a real price war! K10 vs Core2. Shall be good.

May be the time for me to bring out the ole salesman vest and sell some parts.
 

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OK...

The link is from a chinese site HKEPC, which is usually, but not always right...

http://www.chipzilla.com/default.aspx?article=38133
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/hwdb.php?tid=753250&tp=Intel-c2d-e6050&rid=753256

Q6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 1066 4MB x 2 $530
Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 1066 4MB x 2 $266
E6850 Conroe 3GHz 1333 4MB $266
E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz 1333 $183
E6550 Conroe 2.33GHz 1333 $163

Wow - a 1333 fsb 2.66 part for $ 183.. that is scary!

This "kinda" does make sense however.

Intel has confirmed a 1600 mhz FSB for their server chips, so clearly a 1600 mhz fsb for the consumer side is possible.

IF (huge if) intel is planning:

3.6 ghz on 1600 FSB @ $999
3.4 ghz on 1600 FSB @ $525
3.2 ghz on 1600 FSB @ $316

for Q3 then these part "seems" to make sense.

Clearly intel has the headroom to release the 3.6 ghz parts.. it may be a very interesting Q3 if Barcelona/Athena work as promised :)

2008, the year that the mobo costs more than all of the chips. Can you say Holy Shrinking Margins, Batman?

Yes folks, Intel has fulfilled its plan to commoditze CPUs and implement predatory pricing at the same time.

Next year, PCs will only cost $300 and no one will make any money. The economy will crash and you will all have to move in with Otelini.
 

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Next year, PCs will only cost $300 and no one will make any money. The economy will crash and you will all have to move in with Otelini.

Even if that were true, it would only be the chip makers out of luck... the rest of the distribution channel (e.g. retailers) would make a fortune from intense demand for such low-cost, yet powerful, PCs.
 

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Well, I'd not see it that scary; margins will be more or less what they are now because in Q3 2007, quad cores will start slipping into mainstream, dual cores will be lower mainstream to budget and single cores will hopefully merge (for foth Intel and AMD) into one single, budget family (no more Athlon64/Sempron or Celeron/P4).
At that time, quad cores will replace actual dual cores and logically, dual cores will have to slip a lot in price to make place for the newcomers.
 

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Next year, PCs will only cost $300 and no one will make any money. The economy will crash and you will all have to move in with Otelini.

Even if that were true, it would only be the chip makers out of luck... the rest of the distribution channel (e.g. retailers) would make a fortune from intense demand for such low-cost, yet powerful, PCs.

My opinion stands. I hope it doesn't happen but......

$266 is a 70% reduction on the chip price. Intel's execs must be on crack.
 

BaronMatrix

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Well, I'd not see it that scary; margins will be more or less what they are now because in Q3 2007, quad cores will start slipping into mainstream, dual cores will be lower mainstream to budget and single cores will hopefully merge (for foth Intel and AMD) into one single, budget family (no more Athlon64/Sempron or Celeron/P4).
At that time, quad cores will replace actual dual cores and logically, dual cores will have to slip a lot in price to make place for the newcomers.

We could get to 8core next year and that doesn't make 6850 worth less than $700. It makes the 8core worth $1000.

Everyone should start praying.
 

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Oof its so hard to wait... i guess i should start saving for my new computer fund!

Its just nuts in the market right now. With AMD in dire straits at the moment, its a little scary, but I bet that they'll pull through one way or another and come back with something!

Quad core for 266 looks mighty tempting... i just hope RAM prices drop a little before then. :)
 

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Next year, PCs will only cost $300 and no one will make any money. The economy will crash and you will all have to move in with Otelini.

Even if that were true, it would only be the chip makers out of luck... the rest of the distribution channel (e.g. retailers) would make a fortune from intense demand for such low-cost, yet powerful, PCs.

My opinion stands. I hope it doesn't happen but......

$266 is a 70% reduction on the chip price. Intel's execs must be on crack.

Maybe they're just light-headed from standing on top of Intel's mountain of cash... :lol:
 

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Well, I'd not see it that scary; margins will be more or less what they are now because in Q3 2007, quad cores will start slipping into mainstream, dual cores will be lower mainstream to budget and single cores will hopefully merge (for foth Intel and AMD) into one single, budget family (no more Athlon64/Sempron or Celeron/P4).
At that time, quad cores will replace actual dual cores and logically, dual cores will have to slip a lot in price to make place for the newcomers.

We could get to 8core next year and that doesn't make 6850 worth less than $700. It makes the 8core worth $1000.

Everyone should start praying.
It will; The FX-53 was to the same $1000 then came the FX-55 and FX-57 and 60 and then the E6800; all around the $1000 and all other prices had to drop. Sometimes prices drop, other times they simply compress, and we could easily take this compression for a drop.
As long as the overall cost of a CPU will stay around $50 at most, we will see a lot of these price drops, which are simply compressions within a scale from $40 to $1000-1200.
As long as the cost of a CPU is what it is, both Intel and AMD can certainly afford to drop the prices of certain products as long as they fill the scale with something to sell up to ~$1000.
 

BaronMatrix

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Well, I'd not see it that scary; margins will be more or less what they are now because in Q3 2007, quad cores will start slipping into mainstream, dual cores will be lower mainstream to budget and single cores will hopefully merge (for foth Intel and AMD) into one single, budget family (no more Athlon64/Sempron or Celeron/P4).
At that time, quad cores will replace actual dual cores and logically, dual cores will have to slip a lot in price to make place for the newcomers.

We could get to 8core next year and that doesn't make 6850 worth less than $700. It makes the 8core worth $1000.

Everyone should start praying.
It will; The FX-53 was to the same $1000 then came the FX-55 and FX-57 and 60 and then the E6800; all around the $1000 and all other prices had to drop. Sometimes prices drop, other times they simply compress, and we could easily take this compression for a drop.
As long as the overall cost of a CPU will stay around $50 at most, we will see a lot of these price drops, which are simply compressions within a scale from $40 to $1000-1200.
As long as the cost of a CPU is what it is, both Intel and AMD can certainly afford to drop the prices of certain products as long as they fill the scale with something to sell up to ~$1000.


I know how new products are intro'd and Intel did not intro Core 2 that way. The NetBurst stayed the same for awhile and Core 2 actually cost less.

If a chip is worth $1000 and a 20% faster chip comes out the older chip should drop 20% in price and the new chip should debut at $1000.

Do you really think Intel is dropping prices like this for any reason other than to be predatory and employ a barrier to "entry" for AMD?

As everyone knows there are diminishing returns on the higher clocks( Lt Data reported less than 10% for 6850) and even multi-core so even a 4GHz Core 2 Quad would have it's upper limit based on the SW.

I have checked out the reviews of C2Q and the % increase goes down as you raise the clocks.

Anyway, pray that this doesn't have the effect on the economy that it could.
 

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music to my ears, that was my plan, buy the E6400 at Christmas, massively overclock...which it did, and wait till AMD "strikes back" with their quads for the price war to begin, then come in and scoop up a cheap quad to replace it., and of course, massively overclock it.

Awesome!
 

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We could get to 8core next year and that doesn't make 6850 worth less than $700. It makes the 8core worth $1000.

Everyone should start praying.

Wait.... does this mean my pre-T-bird Athlon is still worth something? :lol:
sorry couldn't resist

on a side note though I don't see this effecting retail store bought box prices
 

BaronMatrix

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You overestimate the importance the computer industry has on the economy.


You underestimate it. Do you know what support industries are?

I am sure he does and I am certain you don't.

However, you must find it odd that there was an economy in the 50's when before the transistor was even invented? I guess we still lived in caves back then.



ALL HAIL THE BOTTOM FALLING OUT!!!!
 

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You overestimate the importance the computer industry has on the economy.


You underestimate it. Do you know what support industries are?

I am sure he does and I am certain you don't.

However, you must find it odd that there was an economy in the 50's when before the transistor was even invented? I guess we still lived in caves back then.


ALL HAIL THE BOTTOM FALLING OUT!!!!

I guess then --

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It's the end of the world as we know it
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Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught with foreign
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Letting. Every motive escalate. AMD incinerate
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I wish more industries had insane monopolistic bullies at the top that exerted pressure to keep prices low while simultaneously speeding up the rate at which they improved their products.

BM, you must really be worried about AMD going under to be bitching and moaning about such great news for the consumer.
 

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Putting aside all the claims and counter claims about AMD's long term viability - where does this leave the average person looking to buy a new PC? (And I am aware that if AMD DOES go down, then there is no upgrade path for a AMD platform - so lets just assume for simplicity that it WILL survive)

Lets also leave the OS out of this and just assume it is 32 bit (i.e. XP SP2 vs Vista 32bit (don't care which Vista version as long as not Home)). i.e. 2 or 4 GB ram

What should they be looking to buy and when???
You have rumours about AMD releasing their new CPU vs Intel cutting prices and pushing up their road map timeframes.

Then you have the GPU battle - AMD's new DX10 card vs Nividia's follow up to the 8800 series

Between buying these and a mobo that supports the CPU and GPU, that is a large part of your system outlay.

So what to do...???
And when to do it???