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3.0 ghz 1333 FSB Conroes to be $266 (!!??) in Q3 this year?

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March 9, 2007 5:40:59 PM

OK...

The link is from a chinese site HKEPC, which is usually, but not always right...

http://www.chipzilla.com/default.aspx?article=38133
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/hwdb.php?tid=753250&tp=Intel-c...

Q6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 1066 4MB x 2 $530
Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 1066 4MB x 2 $266
E6850 Conroe 3GHz 1333 4MB $266
E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz 1333 $183
E6550 Conroe 2.33GHz 1333 $163

Wow - a 1333 fsb 2.66 part for $ 183.. that is scary!

This "kinda" does make sense however.

Intel has confirmed a 1600 mhz FSB for their server chips, so clearly a 1600 mhz fsb for the consumer side is possible.

IF (huge if) intel is planning:

3.6 ghz on 1600 FSB @ $999
3.4 ghz on 1600 FSB @ $525
3.2 ghz on 1600 FSB @ $316

for Q3 then these part "seems" to make sense.

Clearly intel has the headroom to release the 3.6 ghz parts.. it may be a very interesting Q3 if Barcelona/Athena work as promised :) 
March 9, 2007 6:23:38 PM

Ya, I've seen this already, It makes me want to cry. Well time to hold out and have a real price war! K10 vs Core2. Shall be good.

May be the time for me to bring out the ole salesman vest and sell some parts.
March 9, 2007 6:50:45 PM

nice. quad core would be nice for $266.
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March 9, 2007 7:07:18 PM

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nice. quad core would be nice for $266.


yep, this is why it may be good to go e4300 for new rigs now...then just upgrade to quad in 6-9 months. That's what I plan on doing.
March 9, 2007 7:21:22 PM

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OK...

The link is from a chinese site HKEPC, which is usually, but not always right...

http://www.chipzilla.com/default.aspx?article=38133
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/hwdb.php?tid=753250&tp=Intel-c...

Q6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 1066 4MB x 2 $530
Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 1066 4MB x 2 $266
E6850 Conroe 3GHz 1333 4MB $266
E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz 1333 $183
E6550 Conroe 2.33GHz 1333 $163

Wow - a 1333 fsb 2.66 part for $ 183.. that is scary!

This "kinda" does make sense however.

Intel has confirmed a 1600 mhz FSB for their server chips, so clearly a 1600 mhz fsb for the consumer side is possible.

IF (huge if) intel is planning:

3.6 ghz on 1600 FSB @ $999
3.4 ghz on 1600 FSB @ $525
3.2 ghz on 1600 FSB @ $316

for Q3 then these part "seems" to make sense.

Clearly intel has the headroom to release the 3.6 ghz parts.. it may be a very interesting Q3 if Barcelona/Athena work as promised :) 


2008, the year that the mobo costs more than all of the chips. Can you say Holy Shrinking Margins, Batman?

Yes folks, Intel has fulfilled its plan to commoditze CPUs and implement predatory pricing at the same time.

Next year, PCs will only cost $300 and no one will make any money. The economy will crash and you will all have to move in with Otelini.
March 9, 2007 7:25:34 PM

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Next year, PCs will only cost $300 and no one will make any money. The economy will crash and you will all have to move in with Otelini.


Even if that were true, it would only be the chip makers out of luck... the rest of the distribution channel (e.g. retailers) would make a fortune from intense demand for such low-cost, yet powerful, PCs.
March 9, 2007 7:41:58 PM

Well, I'd not see it that scary; margins will be more or less what they are now because in Q3 2007, quad cores will start slipping into mainstream, dual cores will be lower mainstream to budget and single cores will hopefully merge (for foth Intel and AMD) into one single, budget family (no more Athlon64/Sempron or Celeron/P4).
At that time, quad cores will replace actual dual cores and logically, dual cores will have to slip a lot in price to make place for the newcomers.
March 9, 2007 7:55:09 PM

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Next year, PCs will only cost $300 and no one will make any money. The economy will crash and you will all have to move in with Otelini.


Even if that were true, it would only be the chip makers out of luck... the rest of the distribution channel (e.g. retailers) would make a fortune from intense demand for such low-cost, yet powerful, PCs.

My opinion stands. I hope it doesn't happen but......

$266 is a 70% reduction on the chip price. Intel's execs must be on crack.
March 9, 2007 7:56:55 PM

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Well, I'd not see it that scary; margins will be more or less what they are now because in Q3 2007, quad cores will start slipping into mainstream, dual cores will be lower mainstream to budget and single cores will hopefully merge (for foth Intel and AMD) into one single, budget family (no more Athlon64/Sempron or Celeron/P4).
At that time, quad cores will replace actual dual cores and logically, dual cores will have to slip a lot in price to make place for the newcomers.


We could get to 8core next year and that doesn't make 6850 worth less than $700. It makes the 8core worth $1000.

Everyone should start praying.
March 9, 2007 7:57:14 PM

Oof its so hard to wait... i guess i should start saving for my new computer fund!

Its just nuts in the market right now. With AMD in dire straits at the moment, its a little scary, but I bet that they'll pull through one way or another and come back with something!

Quad core for 266 looks mighty tempting... i just hope RAM prices drop a little before then. :) 
March 9, 2007 8:04:11 PM

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Next year, PCs will only cost $300 and no one will make any money. The economy will crash and you will all have to move in with Otelini.


Even if that were true, it would only be the chip makers out of luck... the rest of the distribution channel (e.g. retailers) would make a fortune from intense demand for such low-cost, yet powerful, PCs.

My opinion stands. I hope it doesn't happen but......

$266 is a 70% reduction on the chip price. Intel's execs must be on crack.

Maybe they're just light-headed from standing on top of Intel's mountain of cash... :lol: 
March 9, 2007 8:10:47 PM

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Well, I'd not see it that scary; margins will be more or less what they are now because in Q3 2007, quad cores will start slipping into mainstream, dual cores will be lower mainstream to budget and single cores will hopefully merge (for foth Intel and AMD) into one single, budget family (no more Athlon64/Sempron or Celeron/P4).
At that time, quad cores will replace actual dual cores and logically, dual cores will have to slip a lot in price to make place for the newcomers.


We could get to 8core next year and that doesn't make 6850 worth less than $700. It makes the 8core worth $1000.

Everyone should start praying.
It will; The FX-53 was to the same $1000 then came the FX-55 and FX-57 and 60 and then the E6800; all around the $1000 and all other prices had to drop. Sometimes prices drop, other times they simply compress, and we could easily take this compression for a drop.
As long as the overall cost of a CPU will stay around $50 at most, we will see a lot of these price drops, which are simply compressions within a scale from $40 to $1000-1200.
As long as the cost of a CPU is what it is, both Intel and AMD can certainly afford to drop the prices of certain products as long as they fill the scale with something to sell up to ~$1000.
March 9, 2007 8:29:26 PM

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Well, I'd not see it that scary; margins will be more or less what they are now because in Q3 2007, quad cores will start slipping into mainstream, dual cores will be lower mainstream to budget and single cores will hopefully merge (for foth Intel and AMD) into one single, budget family (no more Athlon64/Sempron or Celeron/P4).
At that time, quad cores will replace actual dual cores and logically, dual cores will have to slip a lot in price to make place for the newcomers.


We could get to 8core next year and that doesn't make 6850 worth less than $700. It makes the 8core worth $1000.

Everyone should start praying.
It will; The FX-53 was to the same $1000 then came the FX-55 and FX-57 and 60 and then the E6800; all around the $1000 and all other prices had to drop. Sometimes prices drop, other times they simply compress, and we could easily take this compression for a drop.
As long as the overall cost of a CPU will stay around $50 at most, we will see a lot of these price drops, which are simply compressions within a scale from $40 to $1000-1200.
As long as the cost of a CPU is what it is, both Intel and AMD can certainly afford to drop the prices of certain products as long as they fill the scale with something to sell up to ~$1000.


I know how new products are intro'd and Intel did not intro Core 2 that way. The NetBurst stayed the same for awhile and Core 2 actually cost less.

If a chip is worth $1000 and a 20% faster chip comes out the older chip should drop 20% in price and the new chip should debut at $1000.

Do you really think Intel is dropping prices like this for any reason other than to be predatory and employ a barrier to "entry" for AMD?

As everyone knows there are diminishing returns on the higher clocks( Lt Data reported less than 10% for 6850) and even multi-core so even a 4GHz Core 2 Quad would have it's upper limit based on the SW.

I have checked out the reviews of C2Q and the % increase goes down as you raise the clocks.

Anyway, pray that this doesn't have the effect on the economy that it could.
March 9, 2007 8:39:07 PM

Well, AMD will have their quads at the time so the battle will be pretty equal.
March 9, 2007 8:50:36 PM

You overestimate the importance the computer industry has on the economy.
March 9, 2007 9:07:24 PM

music to my ears, that was my plan, buy the E6400 at Christmas, massively overclock...which it did, and wait till AMD "strikes back" with their quads for the price war to begin, then come in and scoop up a cheap quad to replace it., and of course, massively overclock it.

Awesome!
March 9, 2007 10:11:56 PM

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We could get to 8core next year and that doesn't make 6850 worth less than $700. It makes the 8core worth $1000.

Everyone should start praying.


Wait.... does this mean my pre-T-bird Athlon is still worth something? :lol: 
sorry couldn't resist

on a side note though I don't see this effecting retail store bought box prices
March 9, 2007 11:52:53 PM

looking at this...just confirms the obvious

BYE BYE AMD u will be missed
March 10, 2007 12:27:49 AM

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You overestimate the importance the computer industry has on the economy.



You underestimate it. Do you know what support industries are?
March 10, 2007 12:35:43 AM

BM PLEASE... You are full of .. Your predictions are irrational. Nuh said.
March 10, 2007 12:42:04 AM

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You overestimate the importance the computer industry has on the economy.



You underestimate it. Do you know what support industries are?

I am sure he does and I am certain you don't.

However, you must find it odd that there was an economy in the 50's when before the transistor was even invented? I guess we still lived in caves back then.



ALL HAIL THE BOTTOM FALLING OUT!!!!
March 10, 2007 1:15:06 AM

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You overestimate the importance the computer industry has on the economy.



You underestimate it. Do you know what support industries are?

I am sure he does and I am certain you don't.

However, you must find it odd that there was an economy in the 50's when before the transistor was even invented? I guess we still lived in caves back then.


ALL HAIL THE BOTTOM FALLING OUT!!!!

I guess then --

It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine

Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught with foreign
AMD. Slash and burn, return, listen to yourself
Churn. Locking in, uniforming, and book burning, Baron
Letting. Every motive escalate. AMD incinerate
Light a candle, light a motive. Step down, step down
Watch your heel crush, crushed, uh-oh, this means no
Fear cavalier. Renegade steer clear! A tournament,
a Tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions,
Offer me AMD and I decline

It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine

Credit: From "It's the end of the world (as we know it)" by REM.

My vote for post of the year... :trophy:
March 10, 2007 1:16:11 AM

Poetry at its best.

March 10, 2007 1:27:46 AM

I wish more industries had insane monopolistic bullies at the top that exerted pressure to keep prices low while simultaneously speeding up the rate at which they improved their products.

BM, you must really be worried about AMD going under to be bitching and moaning about such great news for the consumer.
March 10, 2007 1:31:23 AM

Putting aside all the claims and counter claims about AMD's long term viability - where does this leave the average person looking to buy a new PC? (And I am aware that if AMD DOES go down, then there is no upgrade path for a AMD platform - so lets just assume for simplicity that it WILL survive)

Lets also leave the OS out of this and just assume it is 32 bit (i.e. XP SP2 vs Vista 32bit (don't care which Vista version as long as not Home)). i.e. 2 or 4 GB ram

What should they be looking to buy and when???
You have rumours about AMD releasing their new CPU vs Intel cutting prices and pushing up their road map timeframes.

Then you have the GPU battle - AMD's new DX10 card vs Nividia's follow up to the 8800 series

Between buying these and a mobo that supports the CPU and GPU, that is a large part of your system outlay.

So what to do...???
And when to do it???
March 10, 2007 4:01:27 AM

This basically means single core = budget, dual core = mainstream, quad core = performance.

It had to happen eventually, I'm just surprised it's happened so quickly!

I see >3GHz C2Ds in the works, perhaps coincidentally when Barcelona arrives... ;) 

Best case scenario for us would be if Barcelona spanks C2D and does to its pricing structure what C2D is currently doing to X2 prices.

Think about it, $100 X2 3600+s, $200 X2 5000+s - who would've thunked it 12 months ago? 8)

Maybe now we'll get $100 C2D E6450s as well, or $200 Q6400s...

Barons gonna be blowing a few gaskets this year. :lol: 
March 10, 2007 4:10:39 AM

What you said makes sense.
But it still doesn't answer the question that the average person in the street will be asking

"Should I buy XYZ now, or wait a few months for ABC???"

Now I know that hardware is always changing so you can always wait and get something better for less, but at some point you have to make the decision to purchase.

The question then becomes when is the best time and what will the best kit be??? That is what I and many others want to know - wait for the new AMD DX10 cards?? Well that should be in a few months. Wait for April for Intel to cut their prices??? If so, which CPU to buy if Intel have affordable Quad Cores hitting the market in Q3 this year???
If someone buys a new MB, CPU and GPU, they generally are not going to want to fork out that money again in 6 months. Hence do they hold out a few more months or just get something???

And just to make things REALLY interesting - people are also having to wait for SP1 for Vista to come out to address certain issues, as well as let the drivers mature further...

It's a tough time to be trying to spec out a new PC at the moment, regardless of your budget....
March 10, 2007 10:10:06 AM

Nicely Done Jack - I think you missed your true calling in life.
March 10, 2007 11:21:56 AM

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Nicely Done Jack - I think you missed your true calling in life.


Word.
March 10, 2007 12:08:47 PM

Good lord BM, first you blame intel for the shanghai stock adjustment, and now you're worried that intel foregoing some profit is going to collapse the US stock market? Are you bloody insane? Don't worry my friend, unless Intel decides to replace hafnium with light sweet crude as Gate material, upper-end CPU's will NEVER account for more than a grain of sand on the stormy beach of the American economy. Take another economics class, and this time pay attention to theories instead of just memorizing definitions.
March 10, 2007 12:12:55 PM

and I just bought a new e6600... :oops: 

I have a feeling though that Intel has some inside info on Barcelona performance which is why they're ready to price so aggressively. That or they're just drilling nails in AMD's coffin.

In any respect, I'd expect to see Barcelona priced at a premium when it comes out since it's a new chip. With Intel's prices who cares if Barcelona outperforms. Intel is gonna make a killing in the low-midrange. Not as clear for the high end market.
March 10, 2007 12:26:01 PM

Yea, I agree. I think this is an attempt by intel to break back into the low-end mainstream market where AMD has been making fairly big strides. If the Barcelona is a real fireball performance-wise, Intel would be smart to drop prices as soon as possible. It is NOT predatory pricing. If you extend that logic, then being able to purchase an X2 for less than 100 is predatory pricing on AMD's part. Ree-dikulus.
March 10, 2007 12:35:48 PM

Or maybe the 45nm chips are fast enough that the "old and crappy" 65nm C2D's will be shoved that far back down the scale?
March 10, 2007 12:42:12 PM

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Or maybe the 45nm chips are fast enough that the "old and crappy" 65nm C2D's will be shoved that far back down the scale?


I don't think Intel can ramp up 45nm fast this year with D1D only.
March 10, 2007 1:09:05 PM

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I have a feeling though that Intel has some inside info on Barcelona performance which is why they're ready to price so aggressively. That or they're just drilling nails in AMD's coffin.


If that is the case, why are AMD not releasing any benchmarks to the market? Not to mention the customers...
I'm looking at building a new system (you might have worked some of that out from my earlier post ;) ) - apart from waiting for the price cuts in April, what other reason do I have to hold off from getting an Intel chip (probably E6600)??? Its not like I KNOW that there is a DEFINITE AMD C2D killer coming - it has only been speculated and hinted at and that is countered with rumours about Intel's next chip.

I could always get the MB and CPU and wait a month or so for the new DX10 cards....
March 10, 2007 1:40:08 PM

they werent going to drop the ghz, so who ever thought that intel wouldnt adjust their pricing scheme for the higher clocks, ppl dont work towards ghz anymore like before
March 10, 2007 1:45:31 PM

Not 100% sure what the point you are trying to get across is (would you care to elaborate please).
I'm well aware that there is more to performance then clock speed. But there is room in C2D for a clock increase - so knowing that, I want to know what AMD will come out with - if they can't beat C2D, then once Intel cuts their prices, there is no reason not to buy...
March 10, 2007 1:56:08 PM

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If that is the case, why are AMD not releasing any benchmarks to the market? Not to mention the customers...
I'm looking at building a new system (you might have worked some of that out from my earlier post ;) ) - apart from waiting for the price cuts in April, what other reason do I have to hold off from getting an Intel chip (probably E6600)??? Its not like I KNOW that there is a DEFINITE AMD C2D killer coming - it has only been speculated and hinted at and that is countered with rumours about Intel's next chip.

I could always get the MB and CPU and wait a month or so for the new DX10 cards....


You can say that if your speculation is right. But the chance is really slim. :wink:
March 10, 2007 1:59:46 PM

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You can say that if your speculation is right. But the chance is really slim. :wink:


I think you just made my point for me - I am speculating (based on reading a number of articles on this forum and others) - since AMD are not releasing any solid info. Which brings me back to my point - How is a customer to decide if waiting for AMD is the best choice for a new CPU vs getting one after the April Intel price cuts...???
March 10, 2007 2:01:23 PM

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You can say that if your speculation is right. But the chance is really slim. :wink:


I think you just made my point for me - I am speculating (based on reading a number of articles on this forum and others) - since AMD are not releasing any solid info. Which brings me back to my point - How is a customer to decide if waiting for AMD is the best choice for a new CPU vs getting one after the April Intel price cuts...???

I think by April / May, the benchmarks will be out.
The original launch time for AMD's next generation architecture was scheduled in May.
March 10, 2007 2:07:59 PM

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I think by April / May, the benchmarks will be out.
The original launch time for AMD's next generation architecture was scheduled in May.


I'm hoping for that - it is SOOOO hard trying to work out what kit I want without knowing this (same for GPU - why can't AMD/ATI also release info on their DX10 card???).

Currently I've put the following list together (prices AUD)

Intel ATX E6600 CORE 2 DUO /2.4GHz/4MB CACHE/1066FSB/LGA775 $455.00
Asus P5B-Deluxe 775, CORE2EE, P965, 1066FSB, PCIEI6 Instock $269.00
Patriot 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2-800MHz 4-4-4-12 $395.00
Seagate SATAII NCQ 500GB 7200RPM 16mb Cache $289.00 (could swap for 2x Seagate SATAII NCQ 320GB 7200RPM 16mb Cache $139.00)
Asus EN8800GTX-HTDP-768MB DDR3 PCIEx16 HDTV 2xDVI-I HDCP $915.00
Antec Nine Hundred Tower Gaming Case with side window Black(No PSU) Preorder $183.00
Thermaltake Tough power 850W with PFC cable Management PSU Instock $275.00
Samsung 18xDVD -/+R/RW Dual Layer OEM Black $45.00
Microsoft Ergonomic 4000 keyboard $59.00
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse $79.00
SWVULT MS WINDWOS VISTA ULTIMATE DVD (OEM) $246(no GST) $271 (w/ GST)
Asus MW201U 20inch WSXGA 2ms VGA DVI LCD Black $399.00

I'm not totally sold on the parts, but am trying to work out a rough idea of what everything would come to.
However I am limited to doing this for a Intel/Nvidia platform...
March 10, 2007 2:09:22 PM

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they werent going to drop the ghz, so who ever thought that intel wouldnt adjust their pricing scheme for the higher clocks, ppl dont work towards ghz anymore like before


I'd disagree - enthusiasts and those of us that know better don't work towards GHz anymore. You're average Joe who just wants a fast PC still looks at numbers and thinks that a 3.6Ghz P4D or a 2.8Ghz X2 will be "faster" than a 2.4Ghz E6600. Hell I have problems explaining the difference to tech savy people who aren't hardware geeks.....Intel's martketing did its job too well planting that notion and it's going to take a while longer to get most average people to look past that IMO....
March 10, 2007 2:12:06 PM

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I think by April / May, the benchmarks will be out.
The original launch time for AMD's next generation architecture was scheduled in May.


I'm hoping for that - it is SOOOO hard trying to work out what kit I want without knowing this (same for GPU - why can't AMD/ATI also release info on their DX10 card???).

Currently I've put the following list together (prices AUD)

Intel ATX E6600 CORE 2 DUO /2.4GHz/4MB CACHE/1066FSB/LGA775 $455.00
Asus P5B-Deluxe 775, CORE2EE, P965, 1066FSB, PCIEI6 Instock $269.00
Patriot 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2-800MHz 4-4-4-12 $395.00
Seagate SATAII NCQ 500GB 7200RPM 16mb Cache $289.00 (could swap for 2x Seagate SATAII NCQ 320GB 7200RPM 16mb Cache $139.00)
Asus EN8800GTX-HTDP-768MB DDR3 PCIEx16 HDTV 2xDVI-I HDCP $915.00
Antec Nine Hundred Tower Gaming Case with side window Black(No PSU) Preorder $183.00
Thermaltake Tough power 850W with PFC cable Management PSU Instock $275.00
Samsung 18xDVD -/+R/RW Dual Layer OEM Black $45.00
Microsoft Ergonomic 4000 keyboard $59.00
Logitech G5 Laser Mouse $79.00
SWVULT MS WINDWOS VISTA ULTIMATE DVD (OEM) $246(no GST) $271 (w/ GST)
Asus MW201U 20inch WSXGA 2ms VGA DVI LCD Black $399.00

I'm not totally sold on the parts, but am trying to work out a rough idea of what everything would come to.
However I am limited to doing this for a Intel/Nvidia platform...


Looks very good but i have 2 problems:

1. Swap that motherboard for a Gigabyte DS3, it's cheaper and better.

2. That PSU is way OTT even if you do intend to do SLI with GTXs. It'll work fine with a high quality 600-650 watt PSU.
March 10, 2007 2:13:14 PM

Totally agree. Hence the benchmarking that the review sites doing is very important - but only if they are given samples without being bound to non-disclosure agreements... At the end of the day - I want to know how fast my game will play using a 8800GTX when reviewing CPU, or conversly, how fast the GPU is when using the best possible CPU...
March 10, 2007 2:20:20 PM

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Looks very good but i have 2 problems:

1. Swap that motherboard for a Gigabyte DS3, it's cheaper and better.

2. That PSU is way OTT even if you do intend to do SLI with GTXs. It'll work fine with a high quality 600-650 watt PSU.


As I said, I'm not married to any particular parts. However I do want a PSU that is efficent (don't want huge power bills - I'm living in Qld (Aus). We have a major draught here - so as well as the water bills about to go throught the roof, I can see the power also being effected (since the power stations are using the drinking water...)). And I also want to make sure all the parts are fully looked after, with some room to add new stuff.

Will have a look at the MB. Since we don't have newegg over here, choices are a bit more limited... They also don't seem to match for some reason (do $US to $AUD conversion and our prices are way higher...) :( 
March 10, 2007 2:22:23 PM

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Looks very good but i have 2 problems:

1. Swap that motherboard for a Gigabyte DS3, it's cheaper and better.

2. That PSU is way OTT even if you do intend to do SLI with GTXs. It'll work fine with a high quality 600-650 watt PSU.


As I said, I'm not married to any particular parts. However I do want a PSU that is efficent (don't want huge power bills - I'm living in Qld (Aus). We have a major draught here - so as well as the water bills about to go throught the roof, I can see the power also being effected (since the power stations are using the drinking water...)). And I also want to make sure all the parts are fully looked after, with some room to add new stuff.

Will have a look at the MB. Since we don't have newegg over here, choices are a bit more limited... They also don't seem to match for some reason (do $US to $AUD conversion and our prices are way higher...) :( 

It's a similar situation in the UK here with the higher prices, although it is still relatively easy to get hold of stuff.
March 10, 2007 2:35:19 PM

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I wish more industries had insane monopolistic bullies at the top that exerted pressure to keep prices low while simultaneously speeding up the rate at which they improved their products.

BM, you must really be worried about AMD going under to be bitching and moaning about such great news for the consumer.



Do you know me from somewhere? Prices were ow enough for everyone to afford one. What Intel is doing is predatory use of a monopoly. When your rights are violated through illegal actions DON'T SAY ANYTHING.



ALL HAIL THE BOTTOM FALLING OUT!!!
a c 140 à CPUs
a b å Intel
March 10, 2007 2:52:28 PM

WOW.... I want my cheap chips....NOW
I can only assume Intel has found a cheaper more effective way to manufacture there new chips. They are not going to go into the red just for us.
March 11, 2007 8:12:26 AM

I wish those of you guys that cry for AMD going bankrupt to shut it i don`t care if they do im tired of making upgrade after upgrade that only yeilds 10% increase i want a REAL upgrade for real money before you all cry for them remenber they make those chips for a lot less then what theyr selling them for its like your just saying that you want the same slow evolution in which after 1 year you pay the next 1000$ for yet another upgrade that is only 10% faster then what you had before isn`t anyone tired of this really i know i am over my head,maybe thats just the problem tha AMD wouldn`t die faster and if they do which i doubt they would you can count on it some new company would take theyr place and maybe do even better and just to clarify things i don`t hate AMD but i do hate this "lets give them another 10% performance for 999$" couse thats what you guys are saying that intel shouldn`t lower prices and that we should still buy those cpu`s for 999$ for the sake of having AMD around unfortunately i totaly doubt intel would go for those prices those prices are just too incredible and like i said before they have to respect theyr rule where they only give customers 10% increase for 999$ :evil: 
March 11, 2007 8:38:38 AM

Jeez. The Pentium E2xxx and the new Celeron D series will be chump change by then. I smell REAL inexpensive budget overclocking.
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