Will r600/n8900 outrun an E4300?

Any modern dual core is fine.

You shouldn't worry, since getting a top-line CPU, like a X6800 might only bring a couple more framerates.

for now get you a 76gt or x1650 pci-e card.

then later,say 3 or 4 months get what ever pci-e card you want.

the sli/CF cards or the 8800,s can bottleneck most cpu,s.
but this is at extreme resolutions.

Taco Is right on the money and I have confirmed this myself with both the 8800GTX and my E6400 tested at different speeds.

You cant simply just pair up any modern dual core cpu with a 8800GTX and expect it to work well, its not that simple at all. An 8800GTX will smack around any of AMD's current CPU's pretty easily.

You have to get a good 3+ghz overclock and that is with a conroe to remove bottlenecking from a 8800GTX.

My friends Opteron 175@3ghz with his 8800GTX did not play as fast as my system when all I had was a single 8800GTX and my E6400 was clocked at 3ghz as well.



Now with my SLI'd 8800GTX's I am seeing gains all the way up to 3.7ghz on the cpu. 8O

What on earth did you buy a second 8800GTX for? You've been telling us about your 60 fps with max details and 16XAA. Have you started gaming at 3840x1024 or something?

jeez man wasnt one enough

ANIMAL 8O

you never know, future dx10 games under vista (although not crysis, and linux with dx10 shall be interesting to try if any of you knows how to recode a game to work with linux) may require 3 8800gtxs and 8gis of ram with an 128 intel/amd infinito core cpu

see, what I would do, is get an extremely cheap 3600 for $85, then, I would buy me a nice board like the crosshair I have with 2gigs of ram and a high end gpu. Finally, with the money I have saved on the cpu, I'd buy nice cooling for it, possibly water or ocz's upcoming phase change and take that up to 3+ghz like how the inquirer got a 65nm 5000 to 3.5ghz (validated) and then your bottleneck will be for the most part gone. Then once the k10 cpus come out, if you really need more speed, I'd get one of those, and vuala, eel supra of computers la cheepo

exactly, you can pull off the major upgrade (still k6?) with even one of the cheapest dualies on the market

well, I'm off to bed

Orwell,

I too was in a similar predicament and wanted to keep my agp card and upgrade to C2D, so i could wait for r600 and dx10 games to come out.

I went with an ASROCK LGA 775Dual-VSTA motherboard. It allowed me to keep my 9800pro and DDR400 Ram while upgrading from my AMD64 3200+ to a E4300. I was even able to overclock it to 288FSB(which seems to be close to this board's limit) @ 2.6Ghz!!! The overclock was very simple to, never had to mess with any settings except for FSB freq.

When you do get your r600/8900; upgrade to a Gigabyte DS3 mobo and then overclock the E4300 to 3Ghz+; which i'm sure would keep either card happy.

I only spent like $230 at Newegg for the upgrade and am certainly glad I did; I can run 1080p quicktime trailers, run Tversity for the xbox360 at 720p, and even game above 100fps in CS:Source( but not all at the same time unfortunately!!)

Hope this helps

gee, don't feel special, I've only been at this forum for a few months, and already people are wanting to sleep in my bed 8O heh, but I'm kinda used to the taco comments by now, still, I'm not really that into tacos, I just wanted a funny name

Most games I can run at 60+FPS with a single 8800GTX at 1680X1050 using 16XAA. However that is not the case games such as Oblivion, Call Of Juarez, R6 or even Tombraider Legends.


I have gained more than double the performance in the Above listed games by going SLI and will post a new thread real soon with before and after shots to prove it.

Just for example Oblivion at 1680X1050 with 16XAA and 16XAF on a single card would drop down to 30fps in the thick of the forest. I have tested those same places with SLI and my FPS is 60-70 in the same locations.

Call of Juarez got even a bigger gain, Same settings with a single card and I would be at 35fps in a couple of places and now I am at 90+fps in those same locations. It is Fukin unreal

I absolutely am having a hay day right now with my SLI'd rig

PICS soon bro

PICS soon bro

That would be cool. Cant wait to c pics of a case with the front cut out

LOL. I didnt have to mod the case at all.

It fits perfect.

Could you provide a link? I am a case mod fan my self and luv to look at other peoples work for inspiration

Actually the harder the task the more interesting the solution is. I would really appreciate it if you can locate the link.

Thanks in advance!

Stupid me!!! (or lazy???) should have guessed that it is in the case mods section

Thanks anyway!

If stupid photobucket would hurry up I have a couple of pics to show.

Here is a couple of pics with both Call of Juarez and Oblivion running on both a single 8800GTX and SLI for comparison purposes.

Later when I get more time I will start a new thread with a whole crap load of pics and after I find my digi cam I will take a pic of my new setup.



Settings used for both games are 1680X1050, 16XAA and 16XAF+HDR and all in game options set to the max.



Call of Juarez on a single card.




Same Location but with SLI





Oblivion with a single card-very demanding spot.






Same location with SLI.

I don't notice anything at all Guess I need to get my eyes checked 8)

WTF are you guys talking about!? is FRAPS not showing in the pics?

Ok first of all there is no diff in image quality with one 8800GTX vs Two 8800GTX's, they are both using the same graphics settings. I thought I made that pretty clear. A second 8800GTX doesnt make the graphics any better, all it does is speed up the Frame Rates and that was the whole purpose for me posting those pics with FRAPS so you could see how much faster it is with SLI.

2nd of all I dont think you guys can see the FRAPS for some reason so I will tell you the numbers.

Call Of Juarez
Pic 1 is 43fps
Pic 2 is 81fps


Oblivion

Pic 1 is 28fps
Pic 2 is 64fps

I didnt post the pics for an image quality comparison as there is no difference in image quality from one 8800GTX to two 8800GTX's. I really dont understand why anyone would think there would be.

Well I didnt post the pics to justify my purchasing a second 8800GTX as there is no need for that. I bought it because I can

Thats the whole point. 28fps to 64fps in Oblivion makes a hell of a difference in smoothness. Thats more than a double gain.

I have to disagree. If anything with a poorly coded game the diff will be an increase in FPS, not image quality.

Image quality will be the same with one 8800GTX vs Two 8800GTX's regardless of the game.

The difference is in the Frame rate.

Maybe the CPU is the culprit in supreme commander? I mean with the amount of units on a map and the map size. It's not always the poor graphic card that slows a game