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Mojo - you may be able to copy a lot from your old disk, even run
cloning software successfully. Worth a try. Hook up the old drive as
slave, give it a shot. Good luck!
mojohotmail wrote:
> yep - that is my only option - it's the hassle, more than the cost, of
> having to do a clean install on a new drive and make sure i got all my
> progs, including options/preferences, working how i want them to work etc
> etc - usually takes me a couple of weeks of on and off attention to get
> things fully set. all fun and games... not. thanks for all the advice and
> time. mojo
>
>
>
> "Dan Seur" <click@casta.net> wrote in message
> news:e3Sm9zJrFHA.1788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
>>That's too bad, sounds like you're out of luck. Looks like a new drive
>>(or a working drive from a local repair shop, if cost is a big problem)
>>is your remaining option.
>>
>>Thanks for posting this followup. :-(
>>
>>mojohotmail wrote:
>>
>>>Update: got in touch with Seagate but it's a no can do thing,
>
> apparently -
>
>>>my HD 'sold as a system component' but the place i bought my machine
>
> from
>
>>>went bust - a bit of a fly by night outfit, i used to think. ANyway, can
>>>hardly get an exchange from them - no longer there. Still, Seagate were
>
> all
>
>>>very polite about it all. I guess they have their reasons for refusing.
>>>
>>>"Dan Seur" <click@casta.net> wrote in message
>>>news:ei9csDcqFHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hard drive warranties are pretty long. Seagate tech supp can tell you
>>>>whether you qualify for a free replacement, based on the serial #.
>>>>
>>>>If you do qualify, ask for a "cross shipment." You give them your credit
>>>>card #; they send you the new drive; you have maybe 2 weeks to fiddle
>>>>with it, transfer whatever you can from the broken drive to it; then you
>>>>ship the broken drive to them using their shipping materials; they don't
>>>>charge your card if they get the broken drive in time.
>>>>
>>>>I have done this many times. Very handy. With luck that broken drive may
>>>>be partially accessible - hope hope - if mounted as a slave...
>>>>
>>>>Good luck!
>>>>
>>>>mojohotmail wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>It was the Seagate desktop sware which told me all sorts of interesting
>
>
>>>>>things like... the first partition 'failed with critical errors;
>>>
>>>Basic
>>>
>>>
>>>>>structure corruption'. the second had 'Critical Error(s)' and other
>>>
>>>minor
>>>
>>>
>>>>>errors - the third partition has an Invalid BPB - whatever that is.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cut a long story short, rang tech support (the idea never occurred to
>
> me
>
>>>>>until you mentioned it) and they reckon i should trash the HD ASAP and
>>>>>replace it - will attempt to dig out receipt and try to get a
>>>
>>>replacement
>>>
>>>
>>>>>from the good folk at seagate as the shop that supplied me closed
>>>
>>>down/went
>>>
>>>
>>>>>bust a few months ago, apparently. Thanks for all your help. mojo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dan Seur" <click@casta.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:OrAPzoQqFHA.156@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>No use to me, but maybe to Seagate tech support. I have no idea what
>>>>>>software you're talking about. The Seagate site has, available for
>>>>>>download, a diagnostic package called "Seatools Desktop". Get it and
>
> use
>
>>>>>>it, if you haven't already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you absolutely determined not to call Seagate tech support?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>mojohotmail wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>actually, i did dload the 'diskette creator' software from seagate,
>>>>>
>>>>>create
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>the floppy, boot with and then go through the pertinent processes.
>>>>>>>basically, the seagate software was kind of coming up against a brick
>>>>>
>>>>>wall.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>i'll can do it again and make a note of the precise steps/dialogs etc
>>>
>>>if
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>that's any use?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dan Seur" <click@casta.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:%23mlArVPqFHA.3524@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a hunch you may not be running Seagate's diagnostic, which
>
> will
>
>>>>>>>>be a bootable floppy (NOT a Windows executable like chkdsk).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The diagnostic reports whether the drive is flawed. It will not
>
> return
>
>>>a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>message saying it cannot continue unless there is a machine problem
>>>>>>>>other than the hard drive. The diagnostic does not care about, and
>
> is
>
>>>>>>>>not aware of, any code on the hard drive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I suggest you place a phone call to Seagate tech support. Check with
>>>>>>>>them whether you're running their disk diagnostic. These diagnostics
>>>
>>>are
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>not usually shipped with the drives or PCs; they are downloaded
>>>
>>>bootable
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>floppy images.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm assuming here that the "similar(ish) messages" imply you're
>>>
>>>running
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>some executable under the W2k (or whatever) system. If so, it ain't
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>diagnostic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>mojohotmail wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>thanks for that - have already done so using seagate's software.
>>>>>>>>>unfortunately, that too says it can't continue/resolve the thing -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>generates
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>similar(ish) messages as before.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dan Seur" <click@casta.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:uWgMibMqFHA.2952@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You'll probably get other suggestions too, but I'd suggest you get
>>>>>
>>>>>(from
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the disk manufacturer's website or tech support team) their hard
>>>
>>>drive
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>diagnostic. That is a freebie and may get you a free replacement
>>>>>
>>>>>drive.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>(It's possible there's a bad spot on the oxide surface or some
>
> other
>
>>>>>>>>>>drive problem that's getting in chkdsk's way.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>mojohotmail wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Apologies for the x/repeat post
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Ran chkdsk on my C drive, using a cmd box and noticed a couple of
>>>>>
>>>>>lines
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>during stage 1 of 3:
>>>>>>>>>>>'Deleting corrupt file record segment 1957' and under that
>>>
>>>'Deleting
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>corrupt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>file record segment 1996'. the countup then runs to 100% and dos
>>>
>>>box
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>closed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>after this, i ran chkdsk /f but got this message: 'cannot lock
>>>>>
>>>>>current
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>drive. Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>process.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Would you like to schedule this volume to be checked the next
>
> time
>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>system restarts? (Y/N)' I type 'Y', then restart. Although chkdsk
>>>>>
>>>>>does
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>run
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>during the restart, i kind of trips out without resolving
>>>
>>>anything -
>>>
>>>
>>>>>it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>seems to give up. The comp starts up, i try running chkdsk /f
>
> again
>
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>same sort of responses. Have also tried doing it in safe mode but
>>>
>>>no
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>joy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Tried running defrag but get this message: 'Disk Defragmenter has
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>detected
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>that Chkdsk is scheduled to run on volume (c). Please run Chkdsk
>>>>>
>>>>>/f.'.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>then go through that little loop again but find there's no way
>
> that
>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>chkdsk actually runs during start up nor is there any way to turn
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>loop
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>off - can't get to do a defrag, in other words. Then i get the
>
> idea
>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>scandisk but win2k doesn't have that as such but does have an
>>>
>>>'error
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>checking' facility under local disk properties. so i click than
>
> and
>
>>>>>get
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>message: 'windows was unable to complete the disk check.'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>In case you're wondering, i have spent a bit of time trawling for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>answers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>and tried a good few to no avail. Any suggestions greatly
>>>>>
>>>>>appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>other thing to note is that i initially started all this because
>
> my
>
>>>>>>>>>>>otherwise bulletproof win2k OS, just recently, started to
>
> freeze...
>
>>>>>>>>>>>apologies for the long post but details are sometimes important.
>>>
>>>tia,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>mojo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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