Replace my PC or not ?

[waelt]

I'm thinking about changing my current rig into this rig...

CPU C2D E4300
MOBO A board that can take 1333mhz fsb and supports C2Quad......
MEMORY 2X1024MB DDR2-667
VGA XFX 8800GTS 320mb.

And this is my current rig..

CPU AMD X2 4200+ S939
MOBO ASUS A8S-X
MEMORY 2X1024MB DDR-400Mhz
VGA MSI NX7900GT
PSU FSP 700w

I'm thinking about changing my rig now and to upgrade the CPU when the new C2D and C2Quad are released ..

So should i change my rig or not ?

 

[31computers]

You will need to clarify the reasons why you want/need to change!

What will you be using the PC for? Are there shortcomings now?
Have you got plenty of money? Who shot JR? :?

 

[waelt]

I think if i moved to cheap C2D now it will be easier to me for upgrading later in this summer...

Mostly I use the PC for gaming and movies.....

Does it worth changing or not ??

 

[AdamBomb42]

Not worth it in my option. You have a good system there, it's not the most powerful, but few people have the kind of money to stay on the bleeding edge all of the time.

 

[waelt]

ok another question .....

does it worth to replace my current VGA to a 8800GTS 320MB

 

[BaldEagle]

I think if i moved to cheap C2D now it will be easier to me for upgrading later in this summer...

Mostly I use the PC for gaming and movies.....

Does it worth changing or not ??

Did you rob a bank or peddle a dope shipment and you have to launder large amounts of cash immediately ??

A dual core 4200+ rig should "get er done" for movies and gaming so why the reason to change now? It's not brand spankin' new but still better than most of the junk they peddle at Best Buy.

C2D's drop in price is not quite two months.
R600's come out soon? well maybe soon? When AMD gets good and ready I guess.

 

[m25]

I think if i moved to cheap C2D now it will be easier to me for upgrading later in this summer...

Mostly I use the PC for gaming and movies.....

Does it worth changing or not ??

This summer, will also bring cheaper and better performing quads from both Intel and AMD and you will have a wider and better choice of new chipsets too. So basically, you're just throwing your money away with an 'upgrade' like that (even because at stock speeds, a 4200+ should slightly outperform an E4300)

 

[waelt]

I think that i will keep saving money for a great upgrade next year ...

And what about my VGA ?? should i replace it ? or wait till R600 is released ?

 

[m25]

Actually, it's a general waiting time more or less for everything, video cards included because the Barcelona/R600 combination from AMD will be great and Intel won't be watching with FSB of 1333 and 1600MHz and new chipsets, and video card prices are also supposed to drop, so just wait (I know it's painful).

 

[MU_Engineer]

I'm thinking about changing my current rig into this rig...

CPU C2D E4300
MOBO A board that can take 1333mhz fsb and supports C2Quad......
MEMORY 2X1024MB DDR2-667
VGA XFX 8800GTS 320mb.

And this is my current rig..

CPU AMD X2 4200+ S939
MOBO ASUS A8S-X
MEMORY 2X1024MB DDR-400Mhz
VGA MSI NX7900GT
PSU FSP 700w

You do know that the X2 4200+ is actually faster than the E4300 is, don't you? You'd have to overclock the E4300+ to even meet the performance of the 4200+, let alone exceed it. That's not even an upgrade, let alone a good one.

I'm thinking about changing my rig now and to upgrade the CPU when the new C2D and C2Quad are released ..

Aha. You're a little antsy, that's very natural and excusable. However, if you want to upgrade in the summer to a quad-core CPU, then wait until the summer. However, the 1333 MHz FSB chips show no improvement over the 1066 MHz ones, possibly save for the Core 2 Quad and then only in some certain not-that-common situations that specifically hammer the memory subsystem like running spec_ratefp. The *real* "new" Core 2 chips come in the first bit of 2008 with the 45nm shrink. Those will be a little tiny bit faster clock-for-clock than the current 65nm units are because of 6MB L2 vs. 4MB in a dual-core die. But the biggest difference is more clocks. Also, the AMD K10 chips will be out then and may very well be faster. I'd hold your horses if I were you. Your rig is plenty fast- I also have an X2 4200+ and 2GB DDR-400 and a somewhat similar GPU (x1900 GT v1.) so I know.

I suggest that you perhaps find a buddy with an Athlon XP or Pentium 4 that needs a new computer built and volunteer to do that. I satisfy my jonesing to build a new rig by doing it for others, and it really does help. And you sometimes even end up with more money in your pocket for it, versus spending a grand or so that you probably shouldn't have spent.

 

[luminaris]

I'm thinking about changing my current rig into this rig...

CPU C2D E4300
MOBO A board that can take 1333mhz fsb and supports C2Quad......
MEMORY 2X1024MB DDR2-667
VGA XFX 8800GTS 320mb.

And this is my current rig..

CPU AMD X2 4200+ S939
MOBO ASUS A8S-X
MEMORY 2X1024MB DDR-400Mhz
VGA MSI NX7900GT
PSU FSP 700w

I'm thinking about changing my rig now and to upgrade the CPU when the new C2D and C2Quad are released ..

So should i change my rig or not ?

Well, you do have a good system already in place. You have to really weigh the scales on this one. I have an opty 165 rig which I just very recently replaced with an intel 6300 rig. I did it because the intel is more efficient meaning, less power. I also used a very high efficiency power supply in the new build too. My key objective of course was saving energy. (being a homeowner and having to pay the electric bill every month, oh what fun) I did notice a performance gain but of course that was expected as I'm now using faster memory, a much newer motherboard and processor.

I would say, if you have the cash, go for it and get the new build. No matter what, your still upgrading.

 

[dragonsprayer]

waste if you have am2 and 4200+ you can get 2.8ghz why upgrade

as long as you have pci-x i would not upgrade

 

[slashzapper]

Well i own a Evga 320mb 8800 gts superclocked Gcard.

I would easliy recommend it because its just awesome for me as i dont play on resolutions above 16x12

I would suggest you should get this card only for one reason that , Evga lets you upgrade .

So if you decided that you wanted a better card, you could get one from 3 months of your purchase .

Personally i think you will be really happy with specially going from a 7900gt .

I upgraded from a Ati x1800 gto . I also own a AMD system ATHlon 64 3200+

i am pretty happy with it , so you should be alright. 8)

 

[Dahak]

Uhhh,that makes no sense right now.Maybe upgrade the gpu to an 8800gts,but otherwise I would wait a few more months to upgrade.You just never know what AMD will come up with.

Dahak

AMD X2-4400+@2.6 S-939
EVGA NF4 SLI MB
2X EVGA 7950GT KO IN SLI
2X 512MB CRUCIAL BALLISTIX DDR500
WD300GIG HD
ACER 22IN WIDESCREEN LCD 1600X1200
THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER 850WATT PSU
COOLERMASTER MINI R120
3DMARK05 13,471

 

[AdamBomb42]

ok another question .....

does it worth to replace my current VGA to a 8800GTS 320MB

With upgrading you have to ask yourself if your happy with the performance of your system. The 7900GT can run any game out there just fine, unless you're using very high resolution. I game at 1280x1024 and my 7900GS works great for me and I see no reason to upgrade to a dx10 card until I see dx10 games. I would say to stick with what you have for now and wait for the dx10 price wars to start before making that purchase.

 

[rodney_ws]

Everyone agrees that C2D > X2 at this point, but it's not a huge difference... especially in your case. If it were me I'd get more use out of the X2 (still a VERY capable system) while I saved even more money for a bad-ass rig.

 

[waelt]

well ... im strongly convinced that i wont upgrade at least for now ....

My VGA stills great and i play at 1280X1024 and i didnt face any problem with it till now ...

Thanks for your replies ....

 

[sailer]

I'd say basically what most have already said. Overclock your 4200+if you want some more speed. After that, get a better video card that can be transfered to the next build, whether you buy a 8800, the coming 8900 or R600.

One rule I try to follow is that I don't do a build unless my present machine can no longer support current games or other apps. Until DX10 games actually come out, my present gaming machine will do anything I want. At that time, I have to switch to Vista at the same time, so I will build accordingly.

 

[Bobsama]

My 2ghz Celery is past its last legs; its flat-out on its stomach now. My computer is basically crippled... I can barely play Freespace 2_Open with Adveffects MediaVPs... I generally get sub-10fps on a FX5200.

Anyways... I will probably try to wait this out, too. A E4300 should drop $60, and a GF 8600U should be all-good.

 

[sailer]

For sure, the setup you have has passed its usefull lifespan. If you are waiting, from last I read, there will be more price drops coming and it will therefore be easier to upgrade.

 

[caamsa]

I would keep that krunk system of yours for at least another year.

 

[BaldEagle]

Wow, a 2Ghz Celeron how painful, and here I thought my Athlon XP 2800+ needed to be replaced next.

 

[MU_Engineer]

My old laptop has a 2.2 GHz P4-M, so it's not all that much faster than a 2.0 GHz Northwood Celery. Such a machine is certainly useless for games, but still can be used for some basic office-type functions and e-mail/internet, as well as a cheapo file server or media server/PVR machine.

 

[Bobsama]

I know! If you upgrade your Athlon XP 2800+, send it to me? I'm am pretty much rooting for AMDTI; not because I want Barcy (I haven't seen meaningful benchmarks, just heard meaningless pep talks) or R600/R610/R630 (delayed TOO many times and still without benchmarks).

What I am really looking at right now...

Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 - $169 (waiting till it drops to $120 or so, its similar to the PD805 from a year ago)
MSI P6N SLI-FI (nForce 650i chipset) - $115 (probably won't drop any more, perhaps down $5)
GSkill 1GB Value-RAM (DDR2 667) - $64
Cooler Master eXtreme 430W psu - $35 (yes, cheap, I know)
EVGA GeForce 7600GS - $90 (at least until the GeForce 8600GT/GTS come out (apparently the first specs were incorrect; the GT and GTS have 64-streams and the 8500GT has 48-streams or something))

But anyways... I'd rebuild in my current case, perhaps save up and try for some luck with a generic case/psu OEM deal for the current Celery; if I can ever afford it, I'll make it NAS. That computer doesn't even chug along... I wouldn't even call it crawling.

Still... I'm having problems with the mainboard; if anyone remembers back to 2002, the Intel D845PESV had horrible slot placement; DIMM 1 was too low, so the AGP slot pressed on it. My Uncle maintains that I killed the motherboard back when it had 1GB of DDR in it (it was over summer, so he said it was the heat). Mr. Sabo, the tech-guy from my school, knows all about how bad the slot placement was; he says it was more than likely pressure plus an unstable module of RAM. I say it was pressure. I never did get to run MemTest 86 (I was about 12-13 around then; I didn't know anything in comparison to today, 3 years later). I've been using the same POS system for 4 years. Manufacture date on the system is April 2002; I got it in January when an AMD K-6/2 became too unstable; I told my uncle when it started acting weird, a week later I had my current system. At least it was faster than the AMD and worked pretty well for 2 or so years.

 

[dragonsprayer]

sorry i ment i would be a waste to upgrade the computer not his video card!

by all means upgrade to an 8800gts -

note on th 8800: i sent one back today. I didn't hook up the 6 pin, oops. so it buzzzed and and i hooked it up - it ran for 15 seconds. not like i have not done that before.

then the card would not boot, mobo would not pwr up, swapped cards all fine
swaped psu it then would boot, got a screen reboot no pwr
then no screen then the screen would com on after a reboot

then no boot, nb nb nb back to evga!