Intel P35 "Bearlake" Chipset Performance Preview

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http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1062/intel_p35_bearlake_chipset_performance_preview/index.html

Not sure why the review is so glowingly positive, the performance difference between P965 and Bearlake at the same FSB is only 1-2%.

The good news is that Bearlake is fabbed at 65nm, so it runs cooler and can probably hit higher FSBs than P965.
 

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Agreed. They seem to have gotten overly excited. I'm more interested in seeing if performance/OC'ing improves closer to release. As it now I don't see a good reason for it since it will almost surely cost more and the current crop will likely drop in price on release.
 

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DDR3 support... Erm. This seems a little pointless if the FSB doesn't even reach 350mhz. I know it says that they expect it to reach P5B levels, but shouldn't they really be reporting on what they've got, not what Intel tells them what it's going to be like. Is this pretty common practice?

I guess the lower power requirements, and the extra prefetch bandwidth is desirable in itself, but it's still very much a case of wait-and-see, isn't it?
 

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DDR3 support... Erm. This seems a little pointless if the FSB doesn't even reach 350mhz. I know it says that they expect it to reach P5B levels, but shouldn't they really be reporting on what they've got, not what Intel tells them what it's going to be like. Is this pretty common practice?

I guess the lower power requirements, and the extra prefetch bandwidth is desirable in itself,but it's still very much a case of wait-and-see, isn't it?

That pretty much sums up not only this thread but every damn thread on this forum regarding barcelona .vs c2d. Until real benchmarks on released/available products are available then it's all speculation IMO
 

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I am waiting to get the G35 and a Quadcore to upgrade my son's computer. The G35 will be a DX10 chip and will most likely out perform many of the none DX10 chips for DX10 games just because of the flexiblity it will have with its programmable pipelines.

Of course I could be wrong, but it will be better than his current X700 GPU. :wink:
 

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http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1062/intel_p35_bearlake_chipset_performance_preview/index.html

Not sure why the review is so glowingly positive, the performance difference between P965 and Bearlake at the same FSB is only 1-2%.

The good news is that Bearlake is fabbed at 65nm, so it runs cooler and can probably hit higher FSBs than P965.This will be very important for the enthusiast(overclocking) crowd, when you consider that the base FSB will be 333 instead of 266. With the E6850 having a 9x multiplier, a 400FSB will only get you 3.60GHz(600MHz O/C). :x
 

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Agreed. They seem to have gotten overly excited. I'm more interested in seeing if performance/OC'ing improves closer to release. As it now I don't see a good reason for it since it will almost surely cost more and the current crop will likely drop in price on release.

and hyped exesively
did you forget the famous "INTEL's BEARLAKE CHIPSETS WILL INCREASE PERFORMANCE OF INTEL CPUS BY 15-30%!"

doooh, and they blamed AMD for saying that on their upcoming cpus.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1062/intel_p35_bearlake_chipset_performance_preview/index.html

Not sure why the review is so glowingly positive, the performance difference between P965 and Bearlake at the same FSB is only 1-2%.

The good news is that Bearlake is fabbed at 65nm, so it runs cooler and can probably hit higher FSBs than P965.This will be very important for the enthusiast(overclocking) crowd, when you consider that the base FSB will be 333 instead of 266. With the E6850 having a 9x multiplier, a 400FSB will only get you 3.60GHz(600MHz O/C). :x

isnt this the inversed?
since the bearlake already sports 333 FSB, and since most boards hit the wall betwen 350-400 FSB...
shouldnt 266 fsbbased chips overclock more than their 333 counterparts?
 

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http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1062/intel_p35_bearlake_chipset_performance_preview/index.html

Not sure why the review is so glowingly positive, the performance difference between P965 and Bearlake at the same FSB is only 1-2%.

The good news is that Bearlake is fabbed at 65nm, so it runs cooler and can probably hit higher FSBs than P965.This will be very important for the enthusiast(overclocking) crowd, when you consider that the base FSB will be 333 instead of 266. With the E6850 having a 9x multiplier, a 400FSB will only get you 3.60GHz(600MHz O/C). :x

isnt this the inversed?
since the bearlake already sports 333 FSB, and since most boards hit the wall betwen 350-400 FSB...
shouldnt 266 fsbbased chips overclock more than their 333 counterparts?Yeah, that's why i'm saying...that hopefully the new chipsets will hit higher FSB's in order to get the overclock's on 333FSB processors.

ie: Let's assume we have an X6800 on a P965-975 board.

To hit 3.60GHz we have many combinations.

11x327=3597
10x360=3600
9x400=3600
8x450=3600
7x514=3598
6x600=3600(GL :D )

Now, let's assume we have an E6850 on a Bearlake chipset board.

To hit 3.60GHz we can do:

9x400=3600
8x450=3600
7x514=3598
6x600=3600...No different than the options with an E6600(except hopefully better Si/better potential) or even E4300 :eek: ....for that matter. :wink:

Now lets's say we want to hit the magical 4GHz.

E6850/Bearlake.
We have to hit a minimum of 444x9=3996.

X6800/965-975
We can hit it with 444x9=3996 shouldn't be much problem
400x10=4000 better if our mobo/RAM aren't great
364x11=4004 possible with a low FSB mobo/so-so RAM.

I may be looking at this the wrong way, but i like the multipler options of the 266FSB processors. You're probably right about running a 266FSB chip on a Bearlake chipset board...overclocking better. :?