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Anonymous
December 24, 2004 11:05:05 AM

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Signing up for new service with Cingular soon, and was wondering if I could
get some feedback as to which of these phones is better?

Most important features:

1. Signal strength and battery life
2. Import Outlook contacts
3. Lots of address/book entries
4. Durability
5. Screen size / visual
6. Headset hookups / hands free operation

Not important:

Camera or video
Text or MM messaging
Email from phone
Web browsing on phon

Thank you in advance for any helpful advice you might have.

Chris

More about : moto v551 v400

December 24, 2004 11:05:06 AM

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My Kid just got the 551 and I have the 400 the 551 is much better, When it
comes time in 6 months thats the one I am going to get or the V3
"nonone" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:R4Qyd.2775$1U6.106@trnddc09...
> Signing up for new service with Cingular soon, and was wondering if I
could
> get some feedback as to which of these phones is better?
>
> Most important features:
>
> 1. Signal strength and battery life
> 2. Import Outlook contacts
> 3. Lots of address/book entries
> 4. Durability
> 5. Screen size / visual
> 6. Headset hookups / hands free operation
>
> Not important:
>
> Camera or video
> Text or MM messaging
> Email from phone
> Web browsing on phon
>
> Thank you in advance for any helpful advice you might have.
>
> Chris
>
>
Anonymous
December 24, 2004 12:00:55 PM

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The difference is probably ENS, since otherwise the phones are quite similar
in their common features. If your V400 is more than a few months old, it
probably doesn't support ENS, and you probably don't have the necessary 64K
SIM in any event.

In <-OOdnW-Nd-_fUlbcRVn-oA@comcast.com> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:11:42 -0800,
"Fester" <raven_wood@homeDOT.com> wrote:

>My Kid just got the 551 and I have the 400 the 551 is much better, When it
>comes time in 6 months thats the one I am going to get or the V3
>"nonone" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:R4Qyd.2775$1U6.106@trnddc09...
>> Signing up for new service with Cingular soon, and was wondering if I
>could
>> get some feedback as to which of these phones is better?
>>
>> Most important features:
>>
>> 1. Signal strength and battery life
>> 2. Import Outlook contacts
>> 3. Lots of address/book entries
>> 4. Durability
>> 5. Screen size / visual
>> 6. Headset hookups / hands free operation
>>
>> Not important:
>>
>> Camera or video
>> Text or MM messaging
>> Email from phone
>> Web browsing on phon
>>
>> Thank you in advance for any helpful advice you might have.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
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Anonymous
December 24, 2004 7:54:53 PM

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What is ENS ? Why is the 64k SIM better?

Thank you for your response.



"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:bVQyd.14221$_3.158662@typhoon.sonic.net...
> The difference is probably ENS, since otherwise the phones are quite
> similar
> in their common features. If your V400 is more than a few months old, it
> probably doesn't support ENS, and you probably don't have the necessary
> 64K
> SIM in any event.
>
> In <-OOdnW-Nd-_fUlbcRVn-oA@comcast.com> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004
> 00:11:42 -0800,
> "Fester" <raven_wood@homeDOT.com> wrote:
>
>>My Kid just got the 551 and I have the 400 the 551 is much better, When it
>>comes time in 6 months thats the one I am going to get or the V3
>>"nonone" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>news:R4Qyd.2775$1U6.106@trnddc09...
>>> Signing up for new service with Cingular soon, and was wondering if I
>>could
>>> get some feedback as to which of these phones is better?
>>>
>>> Most important features:
>>>
>>> 1. Signal strength and battery life
>>> 2. Import Outlook contacts
>>> 3. Lots of address/book entries
>>> 4. Durability
>>> 5. Screen size / visual
>>> 6. Headset hookups / hands free operation
>>>
>>> Not important:
>>>
>>> Camera or video
>>> Text or MM messaging
>>> Email from phone
>>> Web browsing on phon
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance for any helpful advice you might have.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
December 24, 2004 8:17:07 PM

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[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

In <xRXyd.8594$rL3.1227@trnddc03> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:54:53 GMT, "Chris W"
<chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>What is ENS ? Why is the 64k SIM better?

"Google is your friend!"
<http://www.google.com/search?q=ens+64k&gt;
See the 3rd or 4th link down:
[64K SIMS and ENS Phones Q&A (Resulting from Cingular and ATTWS ...

>Thank you for your response.
>
>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:bVQyd.14221$_3.158662@typhoon.sonic.net...
>> The difference is probably ENS, since otherwise the phones are quite
>> similar
>> in their common features. If your V400 is more than a few months old, it
>> probably doesn't support ENS, and you probably don't have the necessary
>> 64K
>> SIM in any event.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
December 24, 2004 9:04:03 PM

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Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming up
quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
of these phones would YOU get?

(and are the bluetooth headsets cool - and do they work well)

Thanks again,

Chris


"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:naYyd.14243$_3.158906@typhoon.sonic.net...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <xRXyd.8594$rL3.1227@trnddc03> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:54:53 GMT, "Chris
> W"
> <chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>What is ENS ? Why is the 64k SIM better?
>
> "Google is your friend!"
> <http://www.google.com/search?q=ens+64k&gt;
> See the 3rd or 4th link down:
> [64K SIMS and ENS Phones Q&A (Resulting from Cingular and ATTWS ...
>
>>Thank you for your response.
>>
>>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>news:bVQyd.14221$_3.158662@typhoon.sonic.net...
>>> The difference is probably ENS, since otherwise the phones are quite
>>> similar
>>> in their common features. If your V400 is more than a few months old,
>>> it
>>> probably doesn't support ENS, and you probably don't have the necessary
>>> 64K
>>> SIM in any event.
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
December 24, 2004 11:14:27 PM

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[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris W"
<chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming up
>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
>of these phones would YOU get?

V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.

>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:naYyd.14243$_3.158906@typhoon.sonic.net...
>>
>> In <xRXyd.8594$rL3.1227@trnddc03> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:54:53 GMT, "Chris
>> W"
>> <chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>What is ENS ? Why is the 64k SIM better?
>>
>> "Google is your friend!"
>> <http://www.google.com/search?q=ens+64k&gt;
>> See the 3rd or 4th link down:
>> [64K SIMS and ENS Phones Q&A (Resulting from Cingular and ATTWS ...
>>
>>>Thank you for your response.
>>>
>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>>news:bVQyd.14221$_3.158662@typhoon.sonic.net...
>>>> The difference is probably ENS, since otherwise the phones are quite
>>>> similar
>>>> in their common features. If your V400 is more than a few months old,
>>>> it
>>>> probably doesn't support ENS, and you probably don't have the necessary
>>>> 64K
>>>> SIM in any event.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
December 25, 2004 11:23:32 AM

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:D M_yd.14268$_3.159182@typhoon.sonic.net...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris
> W"
> <chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming
>>up
>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
>>of these phones would YOU get?
>
> V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.

I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available data
features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I just
figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.

I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you need
to use their service.

Charles
December 25, 2004 11:23:33 AM

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Charles Perry wrote:

> "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:D M_yd.14268$_3.159182@typhoon.sonic.net...
>
>>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>
>>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris
>>W"
>><chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming
>>>up
>>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
>>>of these phones would YOU get?
>>
>>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
>
>
> I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
> complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available data
> features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
> includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I just
> figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
> address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
> multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
>
> I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you need
> to use their service.
>
> Charles


That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
clue, it would've already been done.


--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
Anonymous
December 25, 2004 5:13:14 PM

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In article <3357uhF3t8l1oU1@individual.net>,
"Charles Perry" <pipesandtobacco@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:D M_yd.14268$_3.159182@typhoon.sonic.net...
> > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> >
> > In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris
> > W"
> > <chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming
> >>up
> >>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
> >>of these phones would YOU get?
> >
> > V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
>
> I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
> complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available data
> features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
> includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I just
> figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
> address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
> multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
>
> I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you need
> to use their service.
>
> Charles

They do! its http://www.cingular.com

Try

http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net

as a starting point
Anonymous
December 25, 2004 6:39:25 PM

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In article <cqjrrk$omi@library2.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
wrote:

> Charles Perry wrote:
>
> > "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> > news:D M_yd.14268$_3.159182@typhoon.sonic.net...
> >
> >>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> >>
> >>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris
> >>W"
> >><chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming
> >>>up
> >>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
> >>>of these phones would YOU get?
> >>
> >>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
> >
> >
> > I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
> > complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available
> > data
> > features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
> > includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I
> > just
> > figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
> > address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
> > multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
> >
> > I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you need
> > to use their service.
> >
> > Charles
>
>
> That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
> much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
> Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
> clue, it would've already been done.

Its been done.

http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net
December 25, 2004 6:39:26 PM

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Jack Zwick wrote:

> In article <cqjrrk$omi@library2.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Charles Perry wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>>news:D M_yd.14268$_3.159182@typhoon.sonic.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>>>
>>>>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris
>>>>W"
>>>><chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming
>>>>>up
>>>>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru - which
>>>>>of these phones would YOU get?
>>>>
>>>>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
>>>
>>>
>>>I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
>>>complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available
>>>data
>>>features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
>>>includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I
>>>just
>>>figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
>>>address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
>>>multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
>>>
>>>I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you need
>>>to use their service.
>>>
>>>Charles
>>
>>
>>That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
>>much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
>>Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
>>clue, it would've already been done.
>
>
> Its been done.
>
> http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net


I tried going there previously, and again now - all I get is 404.

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
Anonymous
December 25, 2004 6:39:26 PM

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"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:jzwick3-876C43.09380225122004@news1.west.earthlink.net...
> In article <cqjrrk$omi@library2.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
> wrote:
>
>> Charles Perry wrote:
>>
>> > "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>> > news:D M_yd.14268$_3.159182@typhoon.sonic.net...
>> >
>> >>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>> >>
>> >>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT,
>> >>"Chris
>> >>W"
>> >><chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name
>> >>>coming
>> >>>up
>> >>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru -
>> >>>which
>> >>>of these phones would YOU get?
>> >>
>> >>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
>> >
>> >
>> > I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
>> > complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available
>> > data
>> > features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
>> > includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I
>> > just
>> > figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
>> > address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me,
>> > that
>> > multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
>> >
>> > I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you
>> > need
>> > to use their service.
>> >
>> > Charles
>>
>>
>> That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
>> much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
>> Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
>> clue, it would've already been done.
>
> Its been done.
>
> http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net
I have been there. It is very sparse on details. Thanks anyway.

Charles
December 25, 2004 6:39:27 PM

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Worked for me.

You might be getting something in your system chache instead of a fresh
link..

___________________
Ann
Motorola V551
iPAQ 4355
"Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
news:cqk39g$6o9@library2.airnews.net...
> Jack Zwick wrote:
>
>> In article <cqjrrk$omi@library2.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Charles Perry wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:D M_yd.14268$_3.159182@typhoon.sonic.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>>>>
>>>>>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT,
>>>>>"Chris W"
>>>>><chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name
>>>>>>coming up
>>>>>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru -
>>>>>>which
>>>>>>of these phones would YOU get?
>>>>>
>>>>>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
>>>>complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available
>>>>data features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package
>>>>that includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data.
>>>>Well, I just figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture
>>>>to an email address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at
>>>>least to me, that multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
>>>>
>>>>I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you
>>>>need to use their service.
>>>>
>>>>Charles
>>>
>>>
>>>That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
>>>much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
>>>Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
>>>clue, it would've already been done.
>>
>>
>> Its been done.
>>
>> http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net
>
>
> I tried going there previously, and again now - all I get is 404.
>
> --
> jer
> email reply - I am not a 'ten'
Anonymous
December 25, 2004 8:31:19 PM

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In article <335j7oF3rmo16U1@individual.net>,
"Charles Perry" <pipesandtobacco@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> "Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:jzwick3-876C43.09380225122004@news1.west.earthlink.net...
> > In article <cqjrrk$omi@library2.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Charles Perry wrote:
> >>
> >> > "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:D M_yd.14268$_3.159182@typhoon.sonic.net...
> >> >
> >> >>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> >> >>
> >> >>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT,
> >> >>"Chris
> >> >>W"
> >> >><chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name
> >> >>>coming
> >> >>>up
> >> >>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru -
> >> >>>which
> >> >>>of these phones would YOU get?
> >> >>
> >> >>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
> >> > complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available
> >> > data
> >> > features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
> >> > includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I
> >> > just
> >> > figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
> >> > address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me,
> >> > that
> >> > multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
> >> >
> >> > I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you
> >> > need
> >> > to use their service.
> >> >
> >> > Charles
> >>
> >>
> >> That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
> >> much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
> >> Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
> >> clue, it would've already been done.
> >
> > Its been done.
> >
> > http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net
> I have been there. It is very sparse on details. Thanks anyway.
>
> Charles

Try John Navas website then.
Anonymous
December 25, 2004 8:31:53 PM

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In article <cqk39g$6o9@library2.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
wrote:

> Jack Zwick wrote:
>
> > In article <cqjrrk$omi@library2.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Charles Perry wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:D M_yd.14268$_3.159182@typhoon.sonic.net...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> >>>>
> >>>>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris
> >>>>W"
> >>>><chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming
> >>>>>up
> >>>>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru -
> >>>>>which
> >>>>>of these phones would YOU get?
> >>>>
> >>>>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
> >>>complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available
> >>>data
> >>>features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
> >>>includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I
> >>>just
> >>>figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
> >>>address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
> >>>multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
> >>>
> >>>I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you need
> >>>to use their service.
> >>>
> >>>Charles
> >>
> >>
> >>That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
> >>much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
> >>Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
> >>clue, it would've already been done.
> >
> >
> > Its been done.
> >
> > http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net
>
>
> I tried going there previously, and again now - all I get is 404.

Try using the FoxFire browser.
December 25, 2004 8:31:54 PM

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Jack Zwick wrote:
> In article <cqk39g$6o9@library2.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Jack Zwick wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <cqjrrk$omi@library2.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Charles Perry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:D M_yd.14268$_3.159182@typhoon.sonic.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In <nSYyd.7730$L7.377@trnddc05> on Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:04:03 GMT, "Chris
>>>>>>W"
>>>>>><chaparral2350sx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thank you John. In doing a little more research, I see your name coming
>>>>>>>up
>>>>>>>quite a bit on the net...so since you seem to be a cell phone guru -
>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>of these phones would YOU get?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>V551 (with 64K SIM), the best phone now being sold by Cingular IMHO.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
>>>>>complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available
>>>>>data
>>>>>features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
>>>>>includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I
>>>>>just
>>>>>figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
>>>>>address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
>>>>>multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
>>>>>
>>>>>I sure wish Cingular had one place to go look for all of the info you need
>>>>>to use their service.
>>>>>
>>>>>Charles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
>>>>much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
>>>>Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
>>>>clue, it would've already been done.
>>>
>>>
>>>Its been done.
>>>
>>>http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net
>>
>>
>>I tried going there previously, and again now - all I get is 404.
>
>
> Try using the FoxFire browser.


I've tried Firefox, Nutscrape, and even the dreaded IE, same results -
so something's amiss deeper under the hood. I'm suspecting some option
in the firewall... now... where's that nephew....?

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
Anonymous
December 25, 2004 8:35:04 PM

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In <3357uhF3t8l1oU1@individual.net> on Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:23:32 -0500,
"Charles Perry" <pipesandtobacco@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
>complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available data
>features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
>includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I just
>figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
>address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
>multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.

Depending on the phone, MMS (multimedia message) can either be sent to another
phone or to an email address through the MMS gateway. Either way the MMS
message is charged as a "picture message" (not as data). If the phone has a
properly configured email client, multimedia (pictures, sounds, etc.) can
instead be sent attached to an email message, in which case it is charged as
data (not as a "picture message").

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
December 25, 2004 8:35:05 PM

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:cxhzd.14407$_3.161640@typhoon.sonic.net...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <3357uhF3t8l1oU1@individual.net> on Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:23:32 -0500,
> "Charles Perry" <pipesandtobacco@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I really like my V551 (which I have had all of a week now). My only
>>complaint is that Cingular does a pathetic job explaining the available
>>data
>>features (actually, no explanation at all). I bought the package that
>>includes 250 txt msgs, 50 multimedia, and I think 1MB of data. Well, I
>>just
>>figured out this morning that if I want to send a picture to an email
>>address, I am using data, not multimedia. I appears, at least to me, that
>>multimedia messages can only be sent to another phone.
>
> Depending on the phone, MMS (multimedia message) can either be sent to
> another
> phone or to an email address through the MMS gateway. Either way the MMS
> message is charged as a "picture message" (not as data). If the phone has
> a
> properly configured email client, multimedia (pictures, sounds, etc.) can
> instead be sent attached to an email message, in which case it is charged
> as
> data (not as a "picture message").
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Ok, figured that out. It defaulted to numeric entry when selecting MMS. I
changed the input method, typed an email address, and what do you know? It
actually sent the picture to my email address.

I still need to figure out how to use the "dial up" version of data
transmission so I can burn up weekend minutes and not use precious data
allotment.

Thanks for your help.

Charles
Anonymous
December 26, 2004 12:03:30 AM

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In article <cqk91h$bis@library2.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
wrote:

> >>>>That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
> >>>>much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
> >>>>Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
> >>>>clue, it would've already been done.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Its been done.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net
> >>
> >>
> >>I tried going there previously, and again now - all I get is 404.
> >
> >
> > Try using the FoxFire browser.
>
>
> I've tried Firefox, Nutscrape, and even the dreaded IE, same results -
> so something's amiss deeper under the hood. I'm suspecting some option
> in the firewall... now... where's that nephew....?

Go ahead and brag about how you don't know what you're doing.
Anonymous
December 26, 2004 1:28:54 AM

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In <3362m1F3sscacU1@individual.net> on Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:59:48 -0500,
"Charles Perry" <pipesandtobacco@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I still need to figure out how to use the "dial up" version of data
>transmission so I can burn up weekend minutes and not use precious data
>allotment.

Covered in my webpages below.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
December 26, 2004 1:28:55 AM

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:GQlzd.14471$_3.162451@typhoon.sonic.net...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <3362m1F3sscacU1@individual.net> on Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:59:48 -0500,
> "Charles Perry" <pipesandtobacco@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I still need to figure out how to use the "dial up" version of data
>>transmission so I can burn up weekend minutes and not use precious data
>>allotment.
>
> Covered in my webpages below.
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;

I saw the settings needed for the new connection. Will the V551
automatically ask me which connection to use or do I need to change a
setting for that also?

Thanks

Charles
Anonymous
December 26, 2004 3:28:54 AM

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In <336de5F3r5hkaU1@individual.net> on Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:03:20 -0500,
"Charles Perry" <pipesandtobacco@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:GQlzd.14471$_3.162451@typhoon.sonic.net...
>>
>> In <3362m1F3sscacU1@individual.net> on Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:59:48 -0500,
>> "Charles Perry" <pipesandtobacco@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I still need to figure out how to use the "dial up" version of data
>>>transmission so I can burn up weekend minutes and not use precious data
>>>allotment.
>>
>> Covered in my webpages below.

>I saw the settings needed for the new connection. Will the V551
>automatically ask me which connection to use or do I need to change a
>setting for that also?

The selection of GPRS/EGPRS(EDGE) profile in the phone is handled by the
dialing string sent by the tethered device.

There are no settings in the phone for CSD with a tethered device* -- it's all
handled by the tethered device.

* Settings are needed for CSD from the phone (e.g., to use the email client in
the phone over CSD, a data profile must be created and selected).

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
December 26, 2004 3:28:55 AM

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:aBnzd.14488$_3.162584@typhoon.sonic.net...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <336de5F3r5hkaU1@individual.net> on Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:03:20 -0500,
> "Charles Perry" <pipesandtobacco@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>news:GQlzd.14471$_3.162451@typhoon.sonic.net...
>>>
>>> In <3362m1F3sscacU1@individual.net> on Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:59:48 -0500,
>>> "Charles Perry" <pipesandtobacco@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I still need to figure out how to use the "dial up" version of data
>>>>transmission so I can burn up weekend minutes and not use precious data
>>>>allotment.
>>>
>>> Covered in my webpages below.
>
>>I saw the settings needed for the new connection. Will the V551
>>automatically ask me which connection to use or do I need to change a
>>setting for that also?
>
> The selection of GPRS/EGPRS(EDGE) profile in the phone is handled by the
> dialing string sent by the tethered device.
>
> There are no settings in the phone for CSD with a tethered device* -- it's
> all
> handled by the tethered device.
>
> * Settings are needed for CSD from the phone (e.g., to use the email
> client in
> the phone over CSD, a data profile must be created and selected).
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;

Thanks, I missunderstood. I thought I could access the web using the phone
and CSD. I am pretty sure this is how my Verizon phone accessed the web.
The tethered stuff will come in handy in a few months when I update to a
bluetooth enabled PDA.

Thanks again.

Charles
Anonymous
December 26, 2004 3:47:01 AM

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In <336fjaF3rt7tuU1@individual.net> on Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:40:13 -0500,
"Charles Perry" <pipesandtobacco@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:aBnzd.14488$_3.162584@typhoon.sonic.net...

>> The selection of GPRS/EGPRS(EDGE) profile in the phone is handled by the
>> dialing string sent by the tethered device.
>>
>> There are no settings in the phone for CSD with a tethered device* -- it's
>> all
>> handled by the tethered device.
>>
>> * Settings are needed for CSD from the phone (e.g., to use the email
>> client in
>> the phone over CSD, a data profile must be created and selected).

>Thanks, I missunderstood. I thought I could access the web using the phone
>and CSD.

You can.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
December 26, 2004 3:47:02 AM

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
>>Thanks, I missunderstood. I thought I could access the web using the
>>phone
>>and CSD.
>
> You can.
>

When I fire up the browser in the V551, how do I make it use CSD?

Charles
Anonymous
December 26, 2004 4:27:58 AM

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In <336hnjF3rc6l3U1@individual.net> on Sat, 25 Dec 2004 20:16:39 -0500,
"Charles Perry" <pipesandtobacco@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:9Snzd.14494$_3.162745@typhoon.sonic.net...

><snip>
>>>Thanks, I missunderstood. I thought I could access the web using the
>>>phone
>>>and CSD.
>>
>> You can.
>
>When I fire up the browser in the V551, how do I make it use CSD?

From my earlier post:

* Settings are needed for CSD from the phone (e.g., to use the email client
in the phone over CSD, a data profile must be created and selected).

Same thing applies to WAP browsing.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
December 26, 2004 10:09:35 AM

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Thank you John and others for your responses.

I'll go with the v551. Your help is appreciated.

Chris



> Signing up for new service with Cingular soon, and was wondering if I
> could get some feedback as to which of these phones is better?
>
> Most important features:
>
> 1. Signal strength and battery life
> 2. Import Outlook contacts
> 3. Lots of address/book entries
> 4. Durability
> 5. Screen size / visual
> 6. Headset hookups / hands free operation
>
> Not important:
>
> Camera or video
> Text or MM messaging
> Email from phone
> Web browsing on phon
>
> Thank you in advance for any helpful advice you might have.
>
> Chris
>
>
December 26, 2004 11:37:49 AM

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Jack Zwick wrote:

> In article <cqk91h$bis@library2.airnews.net>, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>>>>That's a spiffy idea Charles, but it'll never work because it makes too
>>>>>>much sense. The reason it'll never work is because I don't think
>>>>>>Cingular has a clue about how to do this, because if they did have a
>>>>>>clue, it would've already been done.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Its been done.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I tried going there previously, and again now - all I get is 404.
>>>
>>>
>>>Try using the FoxFire browser.
>>
>>
>>I've tried Firefox, Nutscrape, and even the dreaded IE, same results -
>>so something's amiss deeper under the hood. I'm suspecting some option
>>in the firewall... now... where's that nephew....?
>
>
> Go ahead and brag about how you don't know what you're doing.


Well, between the nephew and me, one of us screwed up. We found the
glitch (not firewall, but Winders security zone, but 404 still puzzles
me). Now, that URL does talk all around the issue with many details.
So, getting back to my original point, I suppose if we study it long
enough, it'll eventually make some sense, but it appears Cingular
desperately needs to hire a translator.

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
!