Opinions on HP Up, Carbos, Calcium...etc

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I have recently taken to maxing my Pokes on HP Up, Carbos...and all the
nutrients. It seems to make a difference but at what point is best to give
them? If you give them to a Level 5 all base stats are raised but you don't
see actual stats rise but if you give them to a poke that has leveled up a
bit you see immediate increases.. Any thoughts on the best time to give
nutrients?

 

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Raph wrote:

> I have recently taken to maxing my Pokes on HP Up, Carbos...and all the
> nutrients. It seems to make a difference but at what point is best to give
> them? If you give them to a Level 5 all base stats are raised but you don't
> see actual stats rise but if you give them to a poke that has leveled up a
> bit you see immediate increases.. Any thoughts on the best time to give
> nutrients?
>
Well, I've never used them and I've never had a problem in the
single-player campaign that couldn't be solved by more training. It
might be best to level them up as far as you're gonna before drugging
your Pokemon.

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Once upon a time Raph decided to write:

> I have recently taken to maxing my Pokes on HP Up, Carbos...and all
> the nutrients. It seems to make a difference but at what point is
> best to give them? If you give them to a Level 5 all base stats are
> raised but you don't see actual stats rise but if you give them to a
> poke that has leveled up a bit you see immediate increases.. Any
> thoughts on the best time to give nutrients?

This is a good question because I usually wanted to max out all the
legendary Pokémon stats before raising them, in the hopes that they'd be a
lot stronger. Don't know if it makes a difference by the time they max
themselves out by raising though.

 

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"Raph" <raphs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have recently taken to maxing my Pokes on HP Up, Carbos...and all the
>nutrients. It seems to make a difference but at what point is best to give
>them? If you give them to a Level 5 all base stats are raised but you don't
>see actual stats rise but if you give them to a poke that has leveled up a
>bit you see immediate increases.. Any thoughts on the best time to give
>nutrients?

The way the items work is by adding a certain amount of stat experience.
That amount is the same whether the Pokémon is at :L2 or at :L100. However,
if you reach a specific limit of stat experience, you'll be unable to use
any more of those items. It therefore depends; if you want to use as many
drugs as you can to save yourself the trouble of raising manually, feed them
all immediately. If, however, you want to save money, manual training is
just as effective.

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Once upon a time Chet Weaver - Happy New Year 2205! decided to write:

> Raph wrote:
>
>> I have recently taken to maxing my Pokes on HP Up, Carbos...and all
>> the nutrients. It seems to make a difference but at what point is
>> best to give them? If you give them to a Level 5 all base stats are
>> raised but you don't see actual stats rise but if you give them to a
>> poke that has leveled up a bit you see immediate increases.. Any
>> thoughts on the best time to give nutrients?
>>
> Well, I've never used them and I've never had a problem in the
> single-player campaign that couldn't be solved by more training. It
> might be best to level them up as far as you're gonna before drugging
> your Pokemon.

Maxing out stats for legendaries at level 50 is a good idea so that they're
at full strength. Apparently, giving the drugs actually makes your Pokémon
like you more.

 

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Once upon a time STEFFAN HEDD ALUN decided to write:

> "Raph" <raphs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:YYoSd.27905$H05.5513@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> I have recently taken to maxing my Pokes on HP Up, Carbos...and all
>> the nutrients. It seems to make a difference but at what point is
>> best to give them? If you give them to a Level 5 all base stats are
>> raised but you don't see actual stats rise but if you give them to a
>> poke that has leveled up a bit you see immediate increases.. Any
>> thoughts on the best time to give nutrients?
>
> The way the items work is by adding a certain amount of stat
> experience. That amount is the same whether the Pokémon is at :L2 or
> at :L100. However, if you reach a specific limit of stat experience,
> you'll be unable to use any more of those items. It therefore
> depends; if you want to use as many drugs as you can to save yourself
> the trouble of raising manually, feed them all immediately. If,
> however, you want to save money, manual training is just as effective.

So basically it's a short term thing, which doesn't end up counting if you
raise them to, say level 100. BTW, Pokémon generally will accept 10 of each
item if no manual training has been done.

 

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"Chriz" <chrizizhere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Once upon a time STEFFAN HEDD ALUN decided to write:
>
>> "Raph" <raphs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:YYoSd.27905$H05.5513@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>> I have recently taken to maxing my Pokes on HP Up, Carbos...and all
>>> the nutrients. It seems to make a difference but at what point is
>>> best to give them? If you give them to a Level 5 all base stats are
>>> raised but you don't see actual stats rise but if you give them to a
>>> poke that has leveled up a bit you see immediate increases.. Any
>>> thoughts on the best time to give nutrients?
>>
>> The way the items work is by adding a certain amount of stat
>> experience. That amount is the same whether the Pokémon is at :L2 or
>> at :L100. However, if you reach a specific limit of stat experience,
>> you'll be unable to use any more of those items. It therefore
>> depends; if you want to use as many drugs as you can to save yourself
>> the trouble of raising manually, feed them all immediately. If,
>> however, you want to save money, manual training is just as effective.
>
> So basically it's a short term thing, which doesn't end up counting if you
> raise them to, say level 100. BTW, Pokémon generally will accept 10 of
> each item if no manual training has been done.

So this would help if you are raising in Day Care or with Exp Share...but
not really if you are raising to level 100. Since what I'm doing now is
raising to L100, then it does me no good...I guess.

Current L100 Pokes:

Legendary:
Entei
Ho-oh
Mewtwo
Jirachi
Rayquaza
Grouden
Kyogre
Raikou

Non-Legendary:
Espeon
Mr. Mime
Misdreavus
Togetic
Vaporeon
Electabuzz

Tyranitar and Blastoise are getting close...not sure which I will raise
after that.

 

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Once upon a time Raph decided to write:

> "Chriz" <chrizizhere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:421b3553@x-privat.org...
>> Once upon a time STEFFAN HEDD ALUN decided to write:
>>
>>> "Raph" <raphs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:YYoSd.27905$H05.5513@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>>> I have recently taken to maxing my Pokes on HP Up, Carbos...and all
>>>> the nutrients. It seems to make a difference but at what point is
>>>> best to give them? If you give them to a Level 5 all base stats are
>>>> raised but you don't see actual stats rise but if you give them to
>>>> a poke that has leveled up a bit you see immediate increases.. Any
>>>> thoughts on the best time to give nutrients?
>>>
>>> The way the items work is by adding a certain amount of stat
>>> experience. That amount is the same whether the Pokémon is at :L2 or
>>> at :L100. However, if you reach a specific limit of stat
>>> experience, you'll be unable to use any more of those items. It
>>> therefore depends; if you want to use as many drugs as you can to
>>> save yourself the trouble of raising manually, feed them all
>>> immediately. If, however, you want to save money, manual training
>>> is just as effective.
>>
>> So basically it's a short term thing, which doesn't end up counting
>> if you raise them to, say level 100. BTW, Pokémon generally will
>> accept 10 of each item if no manual training has been done.
>
> So this would help if you are raising in Day Care or with Exp
> Share...but not really if you are raising to level 100. Since what
> I'm doing now is raising to L100, then it does me no good...I guess.
>
> Current L100 Pokes:

If it's not too much bother, could you list your movesets for the
legendaries?

> Legendary:
> Entei
> Ho-oh
> Mewtwo
> Jirachi
> Rayquaza
> Grouden
> Kyogre
> Raikou
>
> Non-Legendary:
> Espeon
> Mr. Mime
> Misdreavus
> Togetic
> Vaporeon
> Electabuzz
>
> Tyranitar and Blastoise are getting close...not sure which I will
> raise after that.

I've been raising my Ruby team to level 100. Breloom, Salamence and Swampert
were at level 100 for a few days now. Yesterday I managed to get Manectric
up there. Now only Gardevoir and Camerupt to go. My Ruby legendaries are at
level 50 minus Rayquaza of course. I need to give Latios a proper moveset,
so anyone have any suggestions? Right now he has Psychic, Recover, Dragon
Dance (useless in a way without an attack stat based move) and Refresh. I'm
considering teaching it Dragon claw, but I'd like to hear some good
movesets. I'm still finding the final level 50 colosseum difficult with
level 50 legendaries so perhaps I need a better strategy.

 

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"Chriz" <chrizizhere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Once upon a time Raph decided to write:
>
>> "Chriz" <chrizizhere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:421b3553@x-privat.org...
>>> Once upon a time STEFFAN HEDD ALUN decided to write:
>>>
>>>> "Raph" <raphs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:YYoSd.27905$H05.5513@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>>>> I have recently taken to maxing my Pokes on HP Up, Carbos...and all
>>>>> the nutrients. It seems to make a difference but at what point is
>>>>> best to give them? If you give them to a Level 5 all base stats are
>>>>> raised but you don't see actual stats rise but if you give them to
>>>>> a poke that has leveled up a bit you see immediate increases.. Any
>>>>> thoughts on the best time to give nutrients?
>>>>
>>>> The way the items work is by adding a certain amount of stat
>>>> experience. That amount is the same whether the Pokémon is at :L2 or
>>>> at :L100. However, if you reach a specific limit of stat
>>>> experience, you'll be unable to use any more of those items. It
>>>> therefore depends; if you want to use as many drugs as you can to
>>>> save yourself the trouble of raising manually, feed them all
>>>> immediately. If, however, you want to save money, manual training
>>>> is just as effective.
>>>
>>> So basically it's a short term thing, which doesn't end up counting
>>> if you raise them to, say level 100. BTW, Pokémon generally will
>>> accept 10 of each item if no manual training has been done.
>>
>> So this would help if you are raising in Day Care or with Exp
>> Share...but not really if you are raising to level 100. Since what
>> I'm doing now is raising to L100, then it does me no good...I guess.
>>
>> Current L100 Pokes:
>
> If it's not too much bother, could you list your movesets for the
> legendaries?
>
>> Legendary:
>> Entei
>> Ho-oh
>> Mewtwo
>> Jirachi
>> Rayquaza
>> Grouden
>> Kyogre
>> Raikou
>>
>> Non-Legendary:
>> Espeon
>> Mr. Mime
>> Misdreavus
>> Togetic
>> Vaporeon
>> Electabuzz
>>
>> Tyranitar and Blastoise are getting close...not sure which I will
>> raise after that.
>
> I've been raising my Ruby team to level 100. Breloom, Salamence and
> Swampert were at level 100 for a few days now. Yesterday I managed to get
> Manectric up there. Now only Gardevoir and Camerupt to go. My Ruby
> legendaries are at level 50 minus Rayquaza of course. I need to give
> Latios a proper moveset, so anyone have any suggestions? Right now he has
> Psychic, Recover, Dragon Dance (useless in a way without an attack stat
> based move) and Refresh. I'm considering teaching it Dragon claw, but I'd
> like to hear some good movesets. I'm still finding the final level 50
> colosseum difficult with level 50 legendaries so perhaps I need a better
> strategy.

I am about to fight my last 50 level Colosseum battle - I finished the
single battle but still need the double and then it's on to the 100 level.
My list above was wrong I do not have Raikou at level 100 ( I kept him at 50
for now..), the other one I have is an Armaldo.

No immediate suggestions on Latios, but I am thinking about that one as
well...

 

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"Chet Weaver - Happy New Year 2205!" <zeroohki@netscape.net> wrote in
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> Raph wrote:
>
>> I have recently taken to maxing my Pokes on HP Up, Carbos...and all the
>> nutrients. It seems to make a difference but at what point is best to
>> give them? If you give them to a Level 5 all base stats are raised but
>> you don't see actual stats rise but if you give them to a poke that has
>> leveled up a bit you see immediate increases.. Any thoughts on the best
>> time to give nutrients?
> Well, I've never used them and I've never had a problem in the
> single-player campaign that couldn't be solved by more training. It might
> be best to level them up as far as you're gonna before drugging your
> Pokemon.

The drugs give the equivalent of EVs, of which each poke is only allowed to
gain 512 total in the advanced games, unlike the originals where each stat
could be maxed out. So if you really want your poke to have say max speed,
then feed it the 10 Carbs as soon as you get it. They keep these EV stats,
and as you raise it, and fight things that give EVs in other things, you
have given it a head start on it's max speed.

This new system means that there is much greater variations in pokes than in
the original games. It's a lot closer to what they said the original games
were going to be like. Every poke gets to be an extention of what it's
owner/trainer wants it to be. If you fight defensively, you would raise up
it's defences and maybe it's HP. People who are attack minded would max out
the attack EVs.

Some pokes are very versatile, lending themselves to Special Attackers and
Physical Attackers. If you pick one and max out it's SA instead of it's A
EVs and give it Special moves it will work and it's stats will look very
different than one raised to be a Physical Attacker, with it's Attack stat
maxed out.

As for the drugs, figure out how you will use the poke, and then max out
it's drugs in the stats you want (I tend to be more balanced, but I don't
battle other people), and find out the pokes who give the Evs for the stats
you want. Only fight those pokes for a while, run from others. When you go
to the Vitamin Guru's wife and she gives you your Effort Ribbon, then you
can fight the highest level things you can find to just level up because you
have maxed out your EVs to 512.


daramark

 

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raphs@hotmail.com wrote:
> "Chriz" <chrizizhere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:421bd1f1@x-privat.org...
> I am about to fight my last 50 level Colosseum battle - I finished the
> single battle but still need the double and then it's on to the 100 level.
> My list above was wrong I do not have Raikou at level 100 ( I kept him at 50
> for now..), the other one I have is an Armaldo.
> No immediate suggestions on Latios, but I am thinking about that one as
> well...



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