New R600 bench's

[bruce555]

VR-Zone has some prelim bench's with 3dmark06 of R600

"Next, we got hold of some preliminary benchmarks figures of the R600 XTX card with core clock at 800MHz vs a GeForce 8800 GTX card. Using a Core 2 Extreme 2.93GHz processor on an Intel 975X board, the 3DMark06 score at 1600x1200 resolution is 97xx on the R600XTX compared to 95xx on the 8800GTX."

 

[raven_87]

linkage??

 

[kaotao]

linkage??

Yeah seriously.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

80nm R600 though;

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4830

 

[kaotao]

Thanks Grape.

 

[jeff_2087]

Interesting link... I hope they improve performance before launch, though. I'd be unimpressed if it took them half a year to get out a card that wins by a mere 200 3dmarks, not even considering a 89xx.

But hopefully they'll be able to increase clockspeed and improve drivers decently by the time it's available.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Like I said in another thread, expect the R600 series to do mediocre/poorly in 3Dmark, but better in actual apps.

Look at the areas the GF8600 does well in compared to the GF7900/X1900, it is improving mainly in SM2.0 not SM3.0. Considering the early statements about R600 geometry shader power expect the differences to favour other situations.

That's why all this Bungholiomark stuff means so very little without the actual individual tests.

 

[raven_87]

*shakes wrist up and down*

thats about what those benchies are worth.....


I'm still wondering if we'll see anything before the end of march, because I'm holding out for one of these cards.

 

[bruce555]

Sorry, I was lazy.

 

[bfellow]

Well I hope they can improve that score. Core clock at 800 mhz means its overclocked version. According to some reports its supposed to 750 mhz for the stock speed (2900XTX).

 

[trinitron64]

I don't think the r600 benches are worth much... unless players who are not actively playing on a basketball court can sit on it.

Can 8 full grown basketball players sit on it?
Sure its a beefy card... but can it support that?

I just don't know anymore.

 

[Kurita]

Im thinking its performance might be limited by the prerelease drivers, as mentioned in the article. Also delays on the card mean that its highly possible that the next card in the generation is near (it happened last generation to ATI with the X1800/X1900 cards)

The benchmark was also done at 1600x1200, without specifying AA levels. Does anyone with a similar setup know what AA levels it is running at by comparing the 8800 scores? Could R600 be CPU limited at that resolution and AA level?

 

[bruce555]

Of course drivers are going to help.

About 95XX is the score for the 8800 as is says in the article quote.

I'm thinking your not going to have to much cpu limitation with a res of 1600x1200. I think that was part of the reason to run the test at this res. Also I think they ran it with all AA and AF off.

 

[Heyyou27]

Let's hope this doesn't reflect real world gaming performance.

 

[Periander]

Those numbers are horrible, and whatever the 8800 ultra is, it's a pretty safe bet to beat those numbers easily. If there is any truth to them then the R600 is shaping up to be a NV30 scale disaster. The silence from DAMMIT at this point is deafening. When are we going to get some real numbers? If they were good, why are they being kept a secret? When are we going to get a solid launch date?

I suspect the worst.

 

[bruce555]

I think we've been left so long that all we can do is suspect the worst. Also with that talk of the launch of R700 and the naming of the R600 to 2900XTX all shows a limit had been reached with this card and the silence just adds to it.

 

[pauldh]

Those numbers are horrible, and whatever the 8800 ultra is, it's a pretty safe bet to beat those numbers easily. If there is any truth to them then the R600 is shaping up to be a NV30 scale disaster. The silence from DAMMIT at this point is deafening. When are we going to get some real numbers? If they were good, why are they being kept a secret? When are we going to get a solid launch date?

I suspect the worst.

Wha? You are saying that rumored 3dmark scores of a non retail version of R600 equates to shaping up to an NV30 disaster? There is so much wrong with that logic.

For fun, lets just say that they have a reference board as will hit retail. Aren't you still putting too much weight into a bungilo_06? The X1900XT 512MB only beats a 7900GTO by 100 3dmarks in 06, yet play Oblivion or NFS Carbon on them, and the X1900XT totally spanks it. Have a look for yourself how little a 3dmark score means, especially a bloated SM2.0 score as TGGA mentioned. Apart from 2 ties, the X1900XT wins every game in this review:

3dmark06:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_7900_gto/page4.asp

Oblivion:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_7900_gto/page11.asp


Who knows at this point how R600 will stack up to the 8800 and 8900 over time, but one things for sure this 3dmark score means didly. Like Oblvion in my example above, imagine if that 200 point 3dmark score ends up being a 100% Crysis stomping. Doubtful, but who knows.

 

[cal7]

Like I said in another thread, expect the R600 series to do mediocre/poorly in 3Dmark, but better in actual apps.

right , we need a new version of 3DMark for those cards anyway.

 

[harmattan]

Like I said in another thread, expect the R600 series to do mediocre/poorly in 3Dmark, but better in actual apps.

right , we need a new version of 3DMark for those cards anyway.

Exactly. What the heck are they doing over there at Futuremark anyways? They haven't come out with a "new" bench for over 2 years. 06' was basically just a more intensive v. of 05 with HDR and Dual Core support. And ever since nV has been "enhancing" their drivers to run better on 3DMark, the accuracy has gotten worse and worse.

I only will rely on real game benches and iQ comparisons to judge these cards. I do think however that once R600 cards are released, choosing over G80 will be a difficult decision. It's likely that one will run better on DX9 than DX10. Many will need to decide whether they want to buy the care that supports a handful of DX10 games, or the other, that is better on many titles in DX9.

I for one am unfortunately stuck with an SLI mobo, and must choose nV. Unless R600 can run Xfire on SLI mobos and I could trade in my 8800 GTXs for R600s... that would be NIIIICE *Borat thumbs up* :lol:

 

[vpsaline]

8800 ultra

8800 Ultra? :?:

what am I missing? Whats a 8800ultra?

 

[Periander]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20070316211223.html

And countless other sources.

 

[TonyStark]

Those numbers are horrible, and whatever the 8800 ultra is, it's a pretty safe bet to beat those numbers easily. If there is any truth to them then the R600 is shaping up to be a NV30 scale disaster. The silence from DAMMIT at this point is deafening. When are we going to get some real numbers? If they were good, why are they being kept a secret? When are we going to get a solid launch date?

I suspect the worst.

Wha? You are saying that rumored 3dmark scores of a non retail version of R600 equates to shaping up to an NV30 disaster? There is so much wrong with that logic.

For fun, lets just say that they have a reference board as will hit retail. Aren't you still putting too much weight into a bungilo_06? The X1900XT 512MB only beats a 7900GTO by 100 3dmarks in 06, yet play Oblivion or NFS Carbon on them, and the X1900XT totally spanks it. Have a look for yourself how little a 3dmark score means, especially a bloated SM2.0 score as TGGA mentioned. Apart from 2 ties, the X1900XT wins every game in this review:

3dmark06:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_7900_gto/page4.asp

Oblivion:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_7900_gto/page11.asp


Who knows at this point how R600 will stack up to the 8800 and 8900 over time, but one things for sure this 3dmark score means didly. Like Oblvion in my example above, imagine if that 200 point 3dmark score ends up being a 100% Crysis stomping. Doubtful, but who knows.

Good post. 3dMark figures aren't everything.

3dMark06
7900 GTX: 6299
x1900 XT: 6100

Oblivion performance
7900 GTX: 20.2 fps
x1900 XT: 33.7 fps

I'll remain quiet until I see some "real" R600 benchmarks.

 

[cal7]

3DMark is a bench which we could only use to test our system when tweaking our PCs mostly or comparing same hardware.They will always fix their drivers to run it faster if 3Dmark remains popular.
I`m stuck with a crossfire mobo and have 8800 GTS
not that i will use xfire or sli after all but its an option.

 

[bullaRh]

well we can hope.. all i know is that i want atleast 20% above 88gtx or else im waiting for next generation :x

 

[corvetteguy]

Those numbers are horrible, and whatever the 8800 ultra is, it's a pretty safe bet to beat those numbers easily. If there is any truth to them then the R600 is shaping up to be a NV30 scale disaster. The silence from DAMMIT at this point is deafening. When are we going to get some real numbers? If they were good, why are they being kept a secret? When are we going to get a solid launch date?

I suspect the worst.

Wha? You are saying that rumored 3dmark scores of a non retail version of R600 equates to shaping up to an NV30 disaster? There is so much wrong with that logic.

For fun, lets just say that they have a reference board as will hit retail. Aren't you still putting too much weight into a bungilo_06? The X1900XT 512MB only beats a 7900GTO by 100 3dmarks in 06, yet play Oblivion or NFS Carbon on them, and the X1900XT totally spanks it. Have a look for yourself how little a 3dmark score means, especially a bloated SM2.0 score as TGGA mentioned. Apart from 2 ties, the X1900XT wins every game in this review:

3dmark06:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_7900_gto/page4.asp

Oblivion:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_7900_gto/page11.asp


Who knows at this point how R600 will stack up to the 8800 and 8900 over time, but one things for sure this 3dmark score means didly. Like Oblvion in my example above, imagine if that 200 point 3dmark score ends up being a 100% Crysis stomping. Doubtful, but who knows.

Good post. 3dMark figures aren't everything.

3dMark06
7900 GTX: 6299
x1900 XT: 6100

Oblivion performance
7900 GTX: 20.2 fps
x1900 XT: 33.7 fps

I'll remain quiet until I see some "real" R600 benchmarks.

Well R600 BEAT 8800 in 3Dmark, so hopefully it will spank it more than your example ot the x1900xt did... just hopeful speculation.