New Water Cooling setup

From all the comparisons that I have seen the apogee seems the be the best. That is way I bought one and I have seen my temps drop a few degrees below ambient temp...idling of course. Instead of the Eheim pump check out the DD Mag II, it is quiet and move a very good amount of water. For the liquid I suggest MCT-5 or MCT-40 because it's cheaper and seems to work fine.

Hmm, well, from what I'm seeing, you might as well just buy a swiftech kit to save money, or get a better radiator with at least 3 fans (either a thermochill pa120,3 or a bi gtx radiator) to make it worthwhile to go custom

You could always get a dangerden block with three heads on it and a y splitter to channel it properly for the three heads and that would probably get the best performance for your cpu, but I can't say for sure

ya that reservoir looks nice

I'm still not sure about the cpu block though.I need to have a water block that provides the highest amount of flow and best cooling for the kind of pump i want to get which is not a very powerful one.Which would be the better choice ?- the swiftech apogee gtx or the danger den tdx

Also,how much better would a black ice gtx 360 or Thermochill PA120.3 be compared to the gts 240 (i may watercool my video card in the future)

Well, I would say you could assume nearly twice as good heat transfer on the pa120.3, but for the bi, I would go for the 480 if possible (same price range as the thermochill anyways, they aint cheap), but that wuold provide a bit over 1.5times the heat transfer, but unless you have a *peltier, either one at best will take you only to the ambient temp of the room/case, so I suggest only getting a very powerful kit if you are planning on adding a very hot gfx card (not something like a 7600gt) or you are planning on adding a peltier.

Here's a very powerful pump for you though
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] 30c107s155
950gph muthafuckas 8O 8O you could run your tubing around the case for all I care and that pump would still be going without a sweat

Here's some peltiers
http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g3 [...] Page1.html

And here's a new water block
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] g30c85s141

And here's the y splitter I was speaking of
http://www.dangerden.com/store/pro [...] =34&page=1

*****Be sure you have a powerful psu when dealing with peltiers, they draw the specified wattage from your psu and it may push it too hard if you have a relatively weak one****

Hey taco, the RBX has been out for years.

So...do you use the store bought hard shell for your tacos or do you fry your own.

How's the pricing between the two? That's what would make the difference between a few degrees imo, anyways, as I said, unless you have a peltier, the coldest you can get your air/water cooler is down to ambient temps, so no matter how hard you try, in the end, you need a peltier or phase change to go below ambient temps

Then I would go for it, $5 for 3 degrees is a bargain for enthusiasts (if only everything worked that way, I'd love to spend $100 and get 60 degrees off my cpu lol ^_^)

I think,after looking at reviews for a while, I've decided on getting the Swiftech MCP655 Pump on newegg for $60

Do u think i should go for the triple radiator incase i add my video card which will be the r600 btw (if it ever decides to come out)?,if so which would be better-the black ice gtx 360 or Thermochill PA120.3,i plan on using 50-65cfm fans.

i thought that the MCP655/d5 pump was considered powerful, especially compared to the Eheim 1048 i originally wanted.

950gph?,thats insane,wont that be loud?Its gonna sound like F***** Niagra Falls..lol

if i added a peltier how much lower would my temps be? ,how do u install them and what are the risks of using them?

Peltiers use a lot of electricity and if uncontrolled, and depending on how strong they are, they can cause condensation and frost on the mobo. Depending on the strength of the Peltier you are using you may need to insulate the entire mobo.

There are some models out there, sold as a packaged HSF units, that shut the peltier off 10c above room temp to avoid condensation problems. They seem to work pretty well.

I would recommend you hold off on the Peltier. It is an extreme solution requiring specialized hardware, possibly a secondary PSU and a lot of knowledge. They are also prone to failure. If you go that route then do a lot of research and get an experienced guy to help you out and give you some pointers.

Personally, I would recommend that you get experienced using watercooling and learning all the ins and outs of that before attempting Peltier cooling. If watercooling doesn't give you the performance you want then you can modify down the road and stick a Peltier in the loop. I think what you'll find is that the CPU, on water, will peak long before the temps become an issue.

ok,so far I plan on getting a swiftech apogee gt or gtx cpu waterblock,a Swiftech MCW30 chipset waterblock,a thermochill pa 120.3 radiator,fluidxp+xtreme coolant,1/2" tygon tubing,plastic snap tubing clamps,either the Danger Den Single 5 1/4" Bay Reservoir or the swiftech micro res,and i still dont know what to do for the pump.I've heard alot of bad things about the reliability of the hydors and thats definately something i dont want to deal with especially since its my first time doing watercooling.The only things i've ever heard bad about the eheim pumps were that they were big and made a little vibration.If its necessary to get such a powerful pump then i could get the eheim 1260 which is 634 gph.If i decided on getting this how noisy would my computer be?I'm not looking for a dead silent computer,i actually like having some kind of noise as long as its not too loud and its not some kind of annoying sound.also, should i replace some of the plastic fittings that come with the waterblocks/reservoir.If so then what should i buy,just the danger den highflow fittings?

I'm not gonna go with a high flow pump.Theres almost no advantage accept for making it a few degrees cooler and i want something quiet.I just want to know which pump will work best for my situation(1/2" tubing, a triple radiator,1cpu block,1 nb block,and possibly a video card block in the future).If u had to chose from these in my situation what would you get? the swiftech mcp655(317 GPH),the eheim 1048(158 gph),or the eheim 1250 (317gph).

I found this video of the mcp655/d5 pump on google video: http://video.google.com/videoplay? [...] pump&hl=en Can someone verify if this is what this pump actually sounds like at full speed or did this guy just do something wrong,like leave too much air in.

I also found a video on the Hydor L30 II Pump (320gph) which is much quieter and has a much less annoying noise to it then the d5: http://video.google.com/videoplay? [...] ydor&hl=en

still cant find anything on the eheim pumps though.

I would go for whatever is quiter or cheaper, since the hydor seems to do so, I would go for that, but fix your links, they're broken :? I had to listen to the boring voice of 3d game man for like 20min just to hear the system

Well, I suggest you at least take a look at frozencpu's inventory first, they have a far better selection of cooling products, and you may find say a different block you like, or the tubing you have been looking for or whatever, maybe even cheaper prices, I just suggest you do that before purchasing, other than that, you have taco's seal of approval to build yourself the ultimate watercooling system your money can buy Enjoy it, and I want results once you're done staring at after it's all set up

True, the tuniq is $10 less there than on newegg, but frozencpu by far has the best selection and variety of parts for any type of cooling, though xoxide sometimes has better deals, and I love operation X, though you have to stay up all night, you get the best prices hands down

Well, I haven't ever had newegg delay my order unless it was on a weekend, in which case they always wait, but frozencpu has a large inventory and ships great along with xoxide (which ships on saturdays )

yup, rated numberone in my book for cooling and case modding stuff, closely followed by xoxide (and you can't beat the pricing on operation X either 8) )

Yeah, that's the problem with xoxide, they don't have the greatest inventory

Get the dTek FuZion waterblock. In comparisons, it seems to beat out the appogee in a slightly greater amount of benches. Plus, it has the lowest flow restricition of all of the high end blocks.

Radiator, swiftec 2fan or above; thermochill 2fan or above.

Fluid, penatosin G11+ some petrastech Biocide.

Good, respectable watercooling sites:
www.petrastech.com
www.crazypc.com
Both committed to customer satisfaction.

no, for that much cooling, I say either thermochill pa120.3 minimum, or bi 480 extreme gtx with four fans, you can't put on like 10 things on the loop on a pathetic radiator, plus, you'll be actually needing say a 950gph hydor pump, so pick wisely since you are seriously putting every component on the loop

If you're really worried about sound, one major thing you can do is mechanically isolate the pump from the case. A lot of the annoying noises come from pump vibration being passed along to the big metal case surfaces and resonating. I've seen quite a few interesting setups, one fellow even hung his pumps from the top of the case on strips of rubber. There are, of course, less insane ways to go about this, but if noise becomes an issue, check that pump mounting and see if you can dampen its vibrations. Air in the lines can cause really annoying sounds too, so be sure to purge and have your resovoir up near the top to catch air if its possible.

The G7 is awsome but the Razer DeathAdder is... well... a Razer. The DeathAdder is the $hit. I love that fcking mouse.

It never, ever, ever misses a single frame.

They're all good. I love my G5, whereas my brother loves his Adder. Just demo them all if you can and go with what works for you. Don't let the Laser/Optical thing sway you too much, it's primarily marketing. And you'd be hard pressed to notice the difference between 1800 and 2000 dpi.