Water Blocks-
CPU:AquaExtreme MP-05 LE or Danger Den TDX or Swiftech Apogee
Northbridge: Swiftech MCW30
Reservoir:T-Line with fill port reservoir or Danger Den Single 5 1/4" Bay Reservoir
Coolant: Fluid XP+ Xtreme
Tubing:10ft Tygon 1/2"
Hose Clamps:15 Plastic Snap Tubing Clamps
(installation will be done in a thermaltake armor case)
This is what i came up with after a little research so let me know if theres anything wrong with it.(First time buying watercooling)
I'm looking for a very quiet and high performance watercooling setup for my cpu and northbridge. I'm not sure about the waterblocks and reservoir yet.How does the aquaextreme flow rate compare to the tdx or apogee?Also would it slow it down if i had a bigger reservoir instead of a t-line and fillport resevoir?Would the swiftech MCW30 work on an asus p5w dh delux motherboard with 975x chipset?I've heard about accelerator plates/nozzles,do u think i need them and if so which one would work best for my setup to acheive the highest flow rate.?
From all the comparisons that I have seen the apogee seems the be the best. That is way I bought one and I have seen my temps drop a few degrees below ambient temp...idling of course. Instead of the Eheim pump check out the DD Mag II, it is quiet and move a very good amount of water. For the liquid I suggest MCT-5 or MCT-40 because it's cheaper and seems to work fine.
From all the comparisons that I have seen the apogee seems the be the best. That is way I bought one and I have seen my temps drop a few degrees below ambient temp...idling of course. Instead of the Eheim pump check out the DD Mag II, it is quiet and move a very good amount of water. For the liquid I suggest MCT-5 or MCT-40 because it's cheaper and seems to work fine.
Ya i was thinking about getting the mag II but i heard they break pretty easily and after a certain amount of time they get noisy.Also about the mct-5 (which i also wanted),i heard it's really bad to breathe that stuff in,read this on the fluid xp site: http://fluidxp.com/index.php?optio [...] &Itemid=25 I don't mind the cost of fluid xp and i'd rather not worry about getting some disease or something from using that.
Hmm, well, from what I'm seeing, you might as well just buy a swiftech kit to save money, or get a better radiator with at least 3 fans (either a thermochill pa120,3 or a bi gtx radiator) to make it worthwhile to go custom
You could always get a dangerden block with three heads on it and a y splitter to channel it properly for the three heads and that would probably get the best performance for your cpu, but I can't say for sure
Take a look at the Swiftech minires. It is inexpensive, well made, works great and fits just about anywhere. Makes it easire to purge the system if you have a reservoir. The Apogee is a very good block and is easy to work with as is the MCW30.
That set up should be more than enough to cool the NB and CPU. Makes sure those plastic clamps fit the outside diameter of your tubing. There is 1/4" wall tubing and 1/8" wall tubing.
Take a look at the Swiftech minires. It is inexpensive, well made, works great and fits just about anywhere. Makes it easire to purge the system if you have a reservoir. The Apogee is a very good block and is easy to work with as is the MCW30.
That set up should be more than enough to cool the NB and CPU. Makes sure those plastic clamps fit the outside diameter of your tubing. There is 1/4" wall tubing and 1/8" wall tubing.
ya that reservoir looks nice
I'm still not sure about the cpu block though.I need to have a water block that provides the highest amount of flow and best cooling for the kind of pump i want to get which is not a very powerful one.Which would be the better choice ?- the swiftech apogee gtx or the danger den tdx
Also,how much better would a black ice gtx 360 or Thermochill PA120.3 be compared to the gts 240 (i may watercool my video card in the future)
I couldn't really say Chris. I have the plain old Apogee and I'll keep running it till it no longer fits the sockets of rots away. Everyone has their favorites and their are some real venomous fanbois aut there but if you match any of the better blocks to the right tubes and pumps the performance differences are minimal.
If that pump is a low flow then make sure you match it with a low flow block and maybe 3/8" tubing. running 1/2' tubing you may want to get a D5 type pump. Lot's of used ones available over at HardForum for $50 -$55 shipped. That's how I got mine. Either that or write the manufacturers and see what they recommend. BTW, that Apogee GTX is a great looking block? Machined aluminum etc. Not sure i like mixing aluminum and copper in the same loop however.
Well, I would say you could assume nearly twice as good heat transfer on the pa120.3, but for the bi, I would go for the 480 if possible (same price range as the thermochill anyways, they aint cheap), but that wuold provide a bit over 1.5times the heat transfer, but unless you have a *peltier, either one at best will take you only to the ambient temp of the room/case, so I suggest only getting a very powerful kit if you are planning on adding a very hot gfx card (not something like a 7600gt) or you are planning on adding a peltier.
Here's a very powerful pump for you though
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] 30c107s155 950gph muthafuckas 8O 8O you could run your tubing around the case for all I care and that pump would still be going without a sweat
*****Be sure you have a powerful psu when dealing with peltiers, they draw the specified wattage from your psu and it may push it too hard if you have a relatively weak one****
I couldn't really say Chris. I have the plain old Apogee and I'll keep running it till it no longer fits the sockets of rots away. Everyone has their favorites and their are some real venomous fanbois aut there but if you match any of the better blocks to the right tubes and pumps the performance differences are minimal.
If that pump is a low flow then make sure you match it with a low flow block and maybe 3/8" tubing. running 1/2' tubing you may want to get a D5 type pump. Lot's of used ones available over at HardForum for $50 -$55 shipped. That's how I got mine. Either that or write the manufacturers and see what they recommend. BTW, that Apogee GTX is a great looking block? Machined aluminum etc. Not sure i like mixing aluminum and copper in the same loop however.
The problem with getting a high flow pump is finding one thats quiet and i have no way of telling if it is until i actually hear it in my case,some people say the d5 is quiet and others say its noisy and makes a high pitched wine.I can't tolerate those kinds of noises so would u recommend a more powerful eheim?,cause i want something that will give more than enough power for 1/2" tubing and will give the flexibility to add more to my setup ,such as my video card, later on.
How's the pricing between the two? That's what would make the difference between a few degrees imo, anyways, as I said, unless you have a peltier, the coldest you can get your air/water cooler is down to ambient temps, so no matter how hard you try, in the end, you need a peltier or phase change to go below ambient temps
$5-10 difference for 2-3 degrees. They are both very good blocks and I was very close to going with the TDX for the lucite top, because it looks cool and you can see if it needs maintenance. I just couldn't ignore those few degrees though.
Then I would go for it, $5 for 3 degrees is a bargain for enthusiasts (if only everything worked that way, I'd love to spend $100 and get 60 degrees off my cpu lol ^_^)
The D5 I have is very quiet, just don't run it dry. Run it dry and it hurts the pump (probably why some guys have screeching D5s and others don't). The D4 was pretty loud from what I have heard.
If you plan on including a GPU in that loop then definitely get a strong pump. You'll need the pressure to get everything through the loop with decent flow. You don't want too much flow and you don't want too little, you ned to balance it as best you can keeping in mind that the blocks are designed to work at a certain flow rate. I'm not sure about that $100 pump Taco was showing above as it would be really pushing the liquid and it may be too strong for the blocks to work efficiently.
That rad needs some strong fans, don't go with the quiet ones. It is a thick, dual pass rad and a low speed fan will not ventilate it effectively. You have to push that air through all those fins so match it up with the manufacturer's recommended CFM rating fan. I like those Deltas that Swiftech sells as they are cheap, not obnoxoiusly loud and push some air.
I think,after looking at reviews for a while, I've decided on getting the Swiftech MCP655 Pump on newegg for $60
Do u think i should go for the triple radiator incase i add my video card which will be the r600 btw (if it ever decides to come out)?,if so which would be better-the black ice gtx 360 or Thermochill PA120.3,i plan on using 50-65cfm fans.
I don't know if that's a good idea, that pump barely profides any gph, I think it's something like 350, either get the 550gph hydor (which is actually less than the swiftech) or the 950gph hydor, both are excellent and way excede the swiftech in price:gph
I think you'll be fine on a pa120.3 for a cpu and gpu only loop, you still may want to add a peltier on, but you'll definitely want a powerful pump and perhaps a lot of tubing to have more water to displace heat. I suggest you get 3 yate loon fans to go with the pa120.3, they're dirt cheap and noctua gets their fans from yate loon then simply volt mods them, something you can easily do
Then go for the 450gph hydor, it's still cheaper than the swiftec anyways, but I don't think it would be that loud, e especially if you have a nice case
8O 8O you could run your tubing around the case for all I care and that pump would still be going without a sweat