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Does my system rock your face off?

Total: 74 votes

  • Yes
  • 15 %
  • No (and by no I mean yes but I wont admit it)
  • 86 %
March 21, 2007 10:29:20 PM

I just ordered my new rig, and Im pretty freakin stoked.

Check it

AMD Athlon X2 5200+ 2.6 Ghz 2x1mb L2 cache (pentium fanboys be quiet)
GIGABYTE AM2 RAID motherboard, 1000mhz HT FSB
2x 160gb SATA WD caviars, will be in RAID-0
2x 1gb Gskill 4-4-3-5 DDR2 800 RAM
Dual layer 16X DVD burner
cheap ass window case
550 watt Rosewill (I know) PSU
2x 12" UV cold cathodes
UV cable sleeving
modem (hell yeah, dial up rocks)
and a freakin PNY 8800GTX 8O

This is upgrading from the following rig

AMD 3000+ 1.8 Ghz
ASUS motherboard
ATI X850 Pro
1gb of PC3200 RAM, one Kingston value, one Corsair cheapo.
2x 80 gig EIDE hard drives
same DVD burner
450 watt rosewill PSU
shitty window case
modem (dial up still rocks)

Not to brag but damn.
I'll post some FPS's in a few days.
March 22, 2007 1:04:44 AM

No and I mean no.
March 22, 2007 1:31:12 AM

I hope your joking. Have you heard of the Core 2 Duo????
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March 22, 2007 1:39:08 AM

why mix an 8800gtx with a rosewill psu?

not to say it won't work, but i would have gone with a higher tier unit.
March 22, 2007 1:42:14 AM

No, just no, there are so many things wrong with that system.
March 22, 2007 1:43:18 AM

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I hope your joking. Have you heard of the Core 2 Duo????


I will give that a +1
March 22, 2007 1:46:37 AM

Learn about the stuff before you spend money on it and before you start threads like this with polls like that. And I think I speak for everyone here when I say no, it does not "rock our faces off"...
March 22, 2007 1:56:20 AM

Dude your system kills mine, but you just majorly capped your GPU.

-The String
March 22, 2007 1:57:11 AM

Good system, the X2 5200s are solid processors, they'll beat anything less than an E6600 at stock speeds.

The PSU, however, is horrible. I wouldn't even dare hook it up to my components. I'd return it immediately and get something that won't fry your computer.

Even if it doesn't blow up, it still doesn't provide enough power for an 8800GTX.
March 22, 2007 1:36:45 PM

What did I say about pentium fanboys?

I know the 6600 is better, but its also WAY the hell more money for one.

Yeah the PSU is a little shabby, I mean to replace it latter on when I get more money.

I dare you to find a 6600 for 205 dollars. I have one of those damn budgets or I might buy one.
March 22, 2007 1:43:34 PM

I can't find a 6600 for 205 but I can find a 6400 which still anhilates the 5200+ with just the slightest OCing. I have a 5200+ on a Crosshair and just ordered a 6400 and an eVGA T1 680i. And seeing as how none of us has said a single thing about a Pentium I have no idea what you are talking about. :roll:
March 22, 2007 1:45:16 PM

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What did I say about pentium fanboys?


:?: Um, nothing?

Quote:
Yeah the PSU is a little shabby, I mean to replace it latter on when I get more money.


It's not "a little shabby". It's a wreck. I'd rather power my PC with a box of AA batteries. Not even Duracells, those crappy ones you get at the dollar store.

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I dare you to find a 6600 for 205 dollars. I have one of those damn budgets or I might buy one.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A quick OC or pin mod, and there's a 6600 equivalent for 170 dollars.


That system, for the most part, is half-decent but far from great.
March 22, 2007 1:48:11 PM

"Um, nothing?"

Me "AMD Athlon X2 5200+ 2.6 Ghz 2x1mb L2 cache (pentium fanboys be quiet)"

Uh, yeah I did.

Rosewill is awesome, its at least as good as a handfull of dollar store AA's and you know it.
March 22, 2007 1:55:05 PM

See, if your idea of awsome is a handfull of dollar store batteries, maybe you would like to buy some of my slightly used, screaming fast, awsome PC100 RAM?
March 22, 2007 1:55:33 PM

"Learn about the stuff before you spend money on it and before you start threads like this with polls like that. And I think I speak for everyone here when I say no, it does not "rock our faces off"..."

Sorry to ruin your oh so excellent fanboyless forum with this garbage, but Im pretty sure I didn't break into your house, tie you to a chair and force you to read this thread.

I know there are better systems out there, however you dont know sarcasm when you read it. Im not an OC'er, so there are no better processors for the money, Im confident of it.

Keep on bitchin' its entertaining.
March 22, 2007 1:56:07 PM

Man you guys dont understand sarcasm.
March 22, 2007 1:59:58 PM

Quote:
"Um, nothing?"

Me "AMD Athlon X2 5200+ 2.6 Ghz 2x1mb L2 cache (pentium fanboys be quiet)"

Uh, yeah I did.


Okay then I just can't read. I still don't like the PSU, but it's your computer. If you're getting two UV cathodes in a windowed case you might wanna look at some UV reactive case fans. I have a couple and they glow really cool. They were only like $1.99 too, for the 80mms anyway.
March 22, 2007 2:02:28 PM

Yeah, I thought about it, and I'll probably get some later, (I forsee heat issues). Got some UV wire sleeving though.
March 22, 2007 3:09:33 PM

Quote:
"Learn about the stuff before you spend money on it and before you start threads like this with polls like that. And I think I speak for everyone here when I say no, it does not "rock our faces off"..."

Sorry to ruin your oh so excellent fanboyless forum with this garbage, but Im pretty sure I didn't break into your house, tie you to a chair and force you to read this thread.

I know there are better systems out there, however you dont know sarcasm when you read it. Im not an OC'er, so there are no better processors for the money, Im confident of it.

Keep on bitchin' its entertaining.


...touche
March 22, 2007 8:39:05 PM

I don't see any pentium fanboys in here. Quote me one person that said to get a pentium cpu.

The 5200 is a great cpu that is about a E6300 in performance, but you could OC the similar priced E6300, E6400 or cheaper E4300 C2D's not pentiums and have it kill your cpu.
March 23, 2007 2:21:00 PM

"I don't see any pentium fanboys in here. Quote me one person that said to get a pentium cpu."

Well, you for one, dumbass.

"I hope your joking. Have you heard of the Core 2 Duo????"

Then there's this post.

"I will give that a +1"

"The 5200 is a great cpu that is about a E6300 in performance, but you could OC the similar priced E6300, E6400 or cheaper E4300 C2D's not pentiums and have it kill your cpu."

Did I not mention Im not OC'ing this system. There you go telling me to buy an Pentium in the same post you ask me to quote someone telling me to buy an Pentium.

My dont we feel stupid?
March 23, 2007 2:25:44 PM

Quote:
"I don't see any pentium fanboys in here. Quote me one person that said to get a pentium cpu."

Well, you for one, dumbass.

...

Did I not mention Im not OC'ing this system. There you go telling me to buy an Pentium in the same post you ask me to quote someone telling me to buy an Pentium.

My dont we feel stupid?


I think you may be confusing Core 2 with Pentium. Core 2s are Intel, but they're not Pentium... Intel temporarily ditched the Pentium name after the Netburst architecture, although there's talk of reviving it with budget chips. But for now, the Pentium is dead, and Core 2 chips are completely different from Pentiums.

Unless I can't read again, I haven't seen anyone recommend a Pentium, nor would anyone in their right mind ever do such a thing (unless it was with a Core 2 upgrade in mind). They've all been recommending Core 2s. Which is valid because they are undeniably better than anything AMD offers. However I disapprove with the ferocity at which they suggest because although Core 2s are better it's still your call.
March 23, 2007 2:28:34 PM

Technicality, doesn't remove him from the fanboy category. My bad on the use of pentium in place of intel, but my point stands. Stop telling me to buy intel's people, I DONT OC!!! AMD'S ARE CHEAPER!!!
March 23, 2007 4:23:45 PM

Why is it when someone suggests C2D, they are an Intel fanboy? Intel carries the performance trophy now.

Ask for suggestions and opinions and you shall receive. Don't dump on those who respond to you.
March 23, 2007 4:31:51 PM

Quote:
Intel carries the performance trophy now.


And to back that up I just so happen to have an exclusive picture of that very trophy...

............. :trophy: ............
Intel's Performance Trophy
March 23, 2007 4:34:22 PM

Looks bigger in person! :D 
March 23, 2007 4:37:53 PM

It definitely does.
March 23, 2007 4:40:13 PM

Intel does carry the performance trophy at the high-end (or if you're an extreme overclocker), but AMD's price cuts have resulted in processors that pretty much crush the C2D under $300. You really have to get an E6600 to beat AMD at stock speeds for the same price.
March 23, 2007 4:51:00 PM

The April price cuts will bring the quad cores down to the sub $300. YEAH BOY!

Hey, notice the two Cheetahs in my sig? 8) 8) 8) 8)
March 23, 2007 4:53:35 PM

I thought the April price cut was $500ish, and the sub $300 quad core wasn't until Q3?
March 23, 2007 4:54:37 PM

Agreed aero.

One becomes a fanboy when they suggest I spend 2/3's more for a processor, when the 200 dollar AMD will do just fine.

EVERYONE GETS IT, INTELS ARE BETTER RIGHT NOW!!
But that doesn't mean everyone should spend way the hell more to buy a processor they dont need.

Intels dont touch AMD's at the 5200 range for the money (non OC'ed), period. So please stop telling everyone to buy overpriced processors. We dont all need them.

If the april price cuts bring the quad cores below $300, imagine what a 5200 will cost? Hell yes. (Not to imply I would prefer the AMD, but it will be hella cheap.)
March 23, 2007 4:58:02 PM

Why a cheap-ass case? If your rig is a source of pride, why go that route?
March 23, 2007 4:59:13 PM

Oh, maybe I was wrong. Either way I am getting a quad core soon!!!
March 23, 2007 5:00:09 PM

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I thought the April price cut was $500ish, and the sub $300 quad core wasn't until Q3?


The $266 tray price of that Intel quadcore isn't scheduled until Q3... not sure what month... maybe July... or maybe September.
March 23, 2007 5:02:02 PM

Yeah that was my memory from one of the gazillion price cut threads in the CPU forum. They probably want to rain on K10's parade.

(edit: haha does anyone else see visions of q6600s falling from big blue clouds onto a bunch of glum looking AMD fans with green umbrellas?)
March 23, 2007 5:09:21 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
March 23, 2007 5:12:05 PM

Then my answer is still no, it does not rock my face off. Is it a fine system? Yes, and the 8800gtx is great.

Buy what you want, but don't ask for peoples opinions and then dump on them when they give it.
March 23, 2007 5:12:17 PM

i honestly rather have a e6300 instead of ur 5200.. it cost 180, u can buy a intel mother board and upgrade to a quad core, and also just over clock ur e6300 to 1333fsb, that will be 2.33 ghz on the e6300 which should smoke ur 5200 to sleep. Dont go Amd, Dont be a amd newb plz.
March 23, 2007 5:14:14 PM

No and I mean NO as in there is no way that system will rock my faceoff ever!!!
March 23, 2007 5:16:53 PM

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Yeah that was my memory from one of the gazillion price cut threads in the CPU forum. They probably want to rain on K10's parade.

(edit: haha does anyone else see visions of q6600s falling from big blue clouds onto a bunch of glum looking AMD fans with green umbrellas?)


I remember when intel was at a loss for a good CPU (P4 days) and the AMD crowd was making everyone that had a intel product seem like a total dumbass. Now that intel and C2D has come out they still hold that AMD is better. Now I am not a hard core OCer but almost anyone can change the FSB in the bios to make the e4300 near 3.0ghz. As well if the OP got a good MB and the e4300 now later on this year he could get a better CPU and still keep his same MB.

I have fallen into the "Ill upgrade in a month" issue. I was going to build a new system in March, but now im waiting again lol. Darn computer prices. But back on topic i see nothing wrong with the AMD chip, but for a cheaper price and 1 bios setting you would get better results.
March 23, 2007 5:18:12 PM

Criminal, what is your FSB and voltage?
March 23, 2007 5:24:40 PM

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What did I say about pentium fanboys?

I know the 6600 is better, but its also WAY the hell more money for one.

Yeah the PSU is a little shabby, I mean to replace it latter on when I get more money.

I dare you to find a 6600 for 205 dollars. I have one of those damn budgets or I might buy one.


Pentium fanboys? Where do you see anything about Pentium. Did you mean Intel you retard? Oh and btw you should have gotten a 6400.... they pwn that 5200+. :) 
March 23, 2007 5:40:08 PM

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Criminal, what is your FSB and voltage?


My FSB is at 400 and I believe my voltage is @ 1.365. (Not exaclty sure on the voltage because I am not right in front of it @ the moment.)
March 23, 2007 5:44:12 PM

Anyone here have or have had UV Cold Cathodes? If so, what are the pinkest ones?
March 23, 2007 6:01:25 PM

Dear Mr. Curmudgeon:

YOUR COMPUTER WILL GO BIG BOOM LIKE. with the power supply you picked.

simple as that
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/PSU-101-ftopict...
Its all about the amps. In order to run well your sys needs 34 amps or so including headroom.

I dont know how many max amps the Rosewill psu provides, but since it has one 17a and one 18a I would guess at 28a. It might run fine for a while but it is a very poor decision.

With your cpu (not dissing it), the 8800GTX will be SEVERLY bottlenecked. YOu wont Have a difference btwn it and a 320mb GTS.

im not even going to go into cooling.
March 23, 2007 6:16:35 PM

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Dear Mr. Curmudgeon:

YOUR COMPUTER WILL GO BIG BOOM LIKE. with the power supply you picked.

simple as that
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/PSU-101-ftopict...
Its all about the amps. In order to run well your sys needs 34 amps or so including headroom.

I dont know how many max amps the Rosewill psu provides, but since it has one 17a and one 18a I would guess at 28a. It might run fine for a while but it is a very poor decision.


Very true.

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With your cpu (not dissing it), the 8800GTX will be SEVERLY bottlenecked. YOu wont Have a difference btwn it and a 320mb GTS.


I still haven't seen any benchmarks to prove this. Will he have a few less FPS in games? Sure, he's got a slower CPU (than an E6600 or any highly overclocked low-end C2D). That doesn't mean it's bottlenecking his video card or reducing its capabilities, though.
March 23, 2007 6:24:33 PM

Quote:
I just ordered my new rig, and Im pretty freakin stoked.

Check it

AMD Athlon X2 5200+ 2.6 Ghz 2x1mb L2 cache (pentium fanboys be quiet)
GIGABYTE AM2 RAID motherboard, 1000mhz HT FSB
2x 160gb SATA WD caviars, will be in RAID-0
2x 1gb Gskill 4-4-3-5 DDR2 800 RAM
Dual layer 16X DVD burner
cheap ass window case
550 watt Rosewill (I know) PSU
2x 12" UV cold cathodes
UV cable sleeving
modem (hell yeah, dial up rocks)
and a freakin PNY 8800GTX 8O

This is upgrading from the following rig

AMD 3000+ 1.8 Ghz
ASUS motherboard
ATI X850 Pro
1gb of PC3200 RAM, one Kingston value, one Corsair cheapo.
2x 80 gig EIDE hard drives
same DVD burner
450 watt rosewill PSU
shitty window case
modem (dial up still rocks)

Not to brag but damn.
I'll post some FPS's in a few days.



You have no reason to brag. :) 

Why don't you switch some components out and make the rig even better. I am not even saying you have to go Intel. Try this:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADO4400DDBOX - Retail (The 5200+ is going to be a severe bottleneck to the 8800gtx anyway, so it will not hurt to drop a few hundred MHz and everyone knows the extra cache on the AMD procs really make no difference.)

If you are set on the 5200+ then get an 8800GTS instead of the GTX. Both the GTX and GTS are bottlenecked by the processor, so choosing the GTS over the GTX will not hurt your performance at all. Then you can spend the extra money on a better power supply. (Which you need severely!!!)

Edit: Oops, I did not even pay attention to the fact that your alredy placed the order. Let us know how that fried GTX turns out after that power supply gives under all that pressure! :roll:
March 23, 2007 6:32:22 PM

...burn.
March 23, 2007 6:35:48 PM

Quote:
Dear Mr. Curmudgeon:

YOUR COMPUTER WILL GO BIG BOOM LIKE. with the power supply you picked.

simple as that
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/PSU-101-ftopict...
Its all about the amps. In order to run well your sys needs 34 amps or so including headroom.

I dont know how many max amps the Rosewill psu provides, but since it has one 17a and one 18a I would guess at 28a. It might run fine for a while but it is a very poor decision.


Very true.

Quote:
With your cpu (not dissing it), the 8800GTX will be SEVERLY bottlenecked. YOu wont Have a difference btwn it and a 320mb GTS.


I still haven't seen any benchmarks to prove this. Will he have a few less FPS in games? Sure, he's got a slower CPU (than an E6600 or any highly overclocked low-end C2D). That doesn't mean it's bottlenecking his video card or reducing its capabilities, though.



Its actually a well known fact. I dont remember where I saw them but here is an article on the subject: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/11/29/geforce_8800_nee...

From what I remember, the X2 5200 is worse than the e6300 at stock.
The 8800GTX is known to bottleneck any processor. A 8800GTS with a good seasonic s12 550w would be a much better choice.
March 23, 2007 6:40:50 PM

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Looks bigger in person! :D 


Thats what she said! (teehee)
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