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March 23, 2007 3:26:48 PM

This will be the 2nd PC I have ever built. It will be used mostly for gaming, surfing the web, music and movies. I will probably be overclocking it.

I'd like to keep the price under ~1700-1800 or so.
Already have

Monitor: Samsung 204b
Mouse: Logitech MX Revolution
Keyboard: Logitech G11 gaming keyboard
Spearkers: Logitech X-540


Need these parts.

Case: Themaltake Soprano
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

Mobo: Asus P5N-E
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

GPU: eVGA GeForce 8800gts 320mb
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

PSU: Hiper 580w power supply
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

Memory: G.Skill 2gb DDR2 800
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

HDD: 2 Seagate Barracudas 320gb RAID0
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Western Digital 500gb
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

DVD/CD Drive: Lite-On combo burner
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Sound Card: X-Fi XtremeGamer
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Heatsink: ZALMAN CNPS9500
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1683...

tube of Artic Silver 5
Windows Vista

Also looking for a good fan controller/temp monitor and are there any good UPS for this system at under $100? I also may be adding a 2nd monitor soon. can the 8800gts handle this? I know nothing about a dual monitor setup.

thanks in advance for all the replies.

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March 23, 2007 3:37:36 PM

Looks pretty good, a few comments:

-Consider the MSI P6N SLI 650i instead of the ASUS. Seems to be less touchy and picky, more stable, better layout.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-I'm not too sure about that PSU. Any modular PSU that costs $90 is probably not a great PSU.....and Hiper isn't the greatest to begin with. The reviews I've read say it's ok. I know it has bling, but that's NOT what you want with a PSU.....you want quality and stability. Bling goes in the case, not the PSU.

-Are you overclocking? If you are, drop the 6600 down to a 6300 or 6400 to save some money.

-Ditch the Zalman 9500. Overpriced, not the best performer, not the quietest. Get something like a Scythe Ninja or Infinity, Tuniq Tower, Thermalright Ultra 120 (needs a fan though), or even a Thermaltake Big Typhoon. All are better and/or cheaper.

-Lastly, your 8800GTS will easily run 2 LCD's, no problem whatsoever. When you connect your 2nd monitor, there's just a couple steps to take to get it running, no big deal though. But it'll run 2 screens without a hitch, so no worries there.

[edit: forgot, fan controller. This one is great, has 4 variable speed knobs, but 2 hi/lo switches, very nice:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...
The Egg's site is giving me grief right now, but that's the controller, just at TD though. Check at the Egg and find it]
March 23, 2007 6:22:22 PM

Scale back on the proc to maybe an E6400 and get rid of the sound card for now. Use that money for an 8800GTX.
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March 23, 2007 7:07:44 PM

This is the build I am getting ( Looks like I am placing it on Monday!)

Below your budget, so you can add a case and what ever else you need.


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LITE-ON LightScribe Black 20X DVD±R Burner with 12X DVD-RAM write Black IDE Model LH-20A1H-186 - Retail
Item #: N82E16827106045
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$38.99



Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822148140
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$84.99



SCEPTRE X20WG-Naga Black 20.1" 5ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
Item #: N82E16824112006
Return Policy: [LCD] Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

-$20.00 Instant
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate
$239.99
$219.99



Foxconn FV-N88SMCD2-ONOC GeForce 8800GTS 320MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814186020
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$25.00 Mail-in Rebate
$309.99



SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817151028
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$159.99



BUFFALO Firestix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model FSX800D2C-K2G - Retail
Item #: N82E16820150054
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$163.99



ASUS P5N-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131142
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$126.99



Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6600 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115003
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$313.00



AOC FC-2000 PCI Slot Case Cooler - Retail
Item #: N82E16835888309
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$4.99



Scythe SCNJ-1100P 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail
Item #: N82E16835185038
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March 23, 2007 8:00:22 PM

Bah, he doesn't need a GTX for a 19" LCD. Like putting a Corvette engine into a Chevette. Waste of money, it's just for bragging rights.....which won't last long because the 8900GTX will be out before you know it.
March 23, 2007 9:52:27 PM

A Corvette is a Chevrolet...
March 23, 2007 10:29:00 PM

I know. But a CHEVETTE is not a Corvette. Google em ;) 

I owned a Chevette in my student days. My dad owned a Corvette. Trust me, very different cars. Try putting a Corvette engine into the Chevette....remove the motor mounts, put in a new tranny, rear end, and a new clutch to boot. Might get you the biggest sleeper in town, but in the end you still got a crappy Chevette LOL.
a b B Homebuilt system
a b 4 Gaming
March 23, 2007 10:29:18 PM

Quote:
A Corvette is a Chevrolet...

So is a Chevette, what's your point? Maybe you don't remember Chevette's.
March 23, 2007 10:42:16 PM

Oh, I thought you spelled Chevrolet wrong lol. No, never heard of 'em. :oops: 
March 23, 2007 11:11:00 PM

Gotcha
March 24, 2007 2:08:10 AM

Quote:
Oh, I thought you spelled Chevrolet wrong lol. No, never heard of 'em. :oops: 

Darn KIDS :lol:  :o  8O :wink: :roll:
March 24, 2007 2:11:30 AM

Hahahaha!
March 24, 2007 3:18:41 AM

so many decisions, i wouldnt even think aboyut vista till service pack one anyways, and how many direct x games you gonna play in the next few mths?? Artic freezer pro works well on the e6600, and if you want till 7900gts or gtx come out you miss out on all the good gaming times in between, my take, buy your system enjoy your self.
March 24, 2007 3:22:01 AM

p.s you listen to some of these people telling you to wait, wait , wait till something new comes out, before long you realise you get that something new but something new to replace that is on the horizon....full circle, unless its extra extrordinary..e.g the release of conroe, i wouldnt put too much into the advice.
March 24, 2007 4:36:15 AM

True. Is it worth waiting another month to save $20 on a 6300? I would argue no.....since that savings is negligible on the overall total cost of your system. So you gotta ask yourself: Is a month of waiting worth $20 or am I willing to spend an extra $20 for a month's worth of fun?

Puts that minimal cost savings into perspective, doesn't it?? ;) 

Jump now, or else you'll wait endlessly. There's always something around the corner, such is the way of technology.
March 24, 2007 12:09:52 PM

Intel Pentium E6600 2.4Ghz Core2 Duo... The Pentium and the Core 2 Duo are two different processors...
March 24, 2007 10:44:57 PM

iam aware of that, what i wasnt aware of was it being on my profile.
March 24, 2007 10:47:42 PM

ok update.

CASE: same

CPU: same
I've never OCed before so I am not really sure about messing with it. I may do it a few months from now so I think I'll stick with the E6600

MOBO: Got a few choices here.

from skyguy's advice I'm going to go with the MSI P6N.
but what is the diffrence between the regular version and the platinum version?

from what I saw it was that plat has ability to support quad-core and that the pci runs at x8 in sli mode on the regular version. I'm leaning towards the regular version since I don't think I will be using SLI and I will probably just build a new PC when I'm ready for a processor upgrade. are there any other diffrences that I missed?

Regular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Platinum
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card: Same.... $500 is to much for me to spend on one part.

Memory: I really have no idea what to go with here. every time I look I pick a diffrent one. All I know is I want at least 2gb and don't want to spend more than $200 or so here.

PSU: This one has alot of good reviews on newegg so I picked it. Is it as good as the reviews on there say?

Corsair 620w power supply
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...


Hard Drives: Same

Sound Card: Same

Burner Same

Heatsink: Decided to go with the Artic Freezer.

OS: Same
March 27, 2007 2:05:58 AM

new update....

Been doing some research and I think I will OC. It dosent seem to hard from what I have been reading.

Case: Thermaltake Soprano

CPU: Core 2 Duo E4300

MOBO: Since I'm not going SLI I think the best would be the Gigabyte DS3

stupid question here..... All of the 965 boards say they must have memory with 1.8V and 5-5-5 timings. what does this mean as far as OC the ram? I am not able to have voltages higher than that?

If that is the case I will just stick with the MSI P6N Platinum.

GPU: EVGA GeForce8800 gts 320mb

Memory: Buffalo Firestix 2gb(2x1gb)

PSU: Corsair 620w

Hard Drives 2 Seagate barracudas 320mb RAID0
Western Digital 500gb

Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtremegamer

Burner Lite-on Combo Burner

CPU Cooler: Scythe Ninja 1100P

OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit


another stupid question....can someone give me a link to a good article on benchmarking a computer? the only ones I can find are from like 1997 and 2000.
March 27, 2007 3:30:43 AM

Youyr list is great. Do not worry about the RAM or MOBO, those problems apply to hardcore o/c'ers. Just bumping up the CPU and FSB will get you a long way.
There were a couple threan on benchmarking here lately, just get a few of the programs and stress test and see the results. Easy as pi!
March 27, 2007 5:16:29 AM

Awesome specs, well done!!! Great choices you got there, congratz.

Ok, RAM. All RAM now is supposed to default to 5-5-5-15 on all mobos to ensure compatiblity, because there were issues. No big deal, just go into BIOS and manually change your RAM to whatever it's rated for......4-4-4-12, for example. Easy, no worries there.

Benchmarking:
-Sisoft SANDRA Lite. Free, benchmark anything on your computer.
-3DMark06, free version for graphics and some CPU
-Super Pi Mod (not regular....MOD). Simple prog for CPU speed benchies.
-Intel TAT and SpeedFan for temperatures

Vista:
Good luck with 64-bit. Driver H-E-L-L. Be patient, it will take time to learn, find drivers, get everything working sorta happily.


Have fun! Great list.
!