I recently upgraded my computer from 512mb of ram to 1024. I have used various programs like TweakXP and even Windows itself to try and force everything to load to system ram rather than the pagefile. I have two sata drives stripped in a raid 0. That is still just not fast enough. I will open up my task manager at any given time and my pagefile has got 400mb in use, while my system ram will have 600mb available. What is the deal, can anyone help me? I am running Windows XP Pro sp. 2 on a Pentium 4 2.8c @ 3.4 with a 971 Mhz FSB and 2 WD SATA 80gb with 8mb cache in a stripped raid array with a maxtor 300gb ata 133 with 16mb cache for storage. Xp is installed on the raid array.
I recently upgraded my computer from 512mb of ram to 1024. I have used various programs like TweakXP and even Windows itself to try and force everything to load to system ram rather than the pagefile. I have two sata drives stripped in a raid 0. That is still just not fast enough. I will open up my task manager at any given time and my pagefile has got 400mb in use, while my system ram will have 600mb available. What is the deal, can anyone help me?
IF IT's XP
You should dissable paging executive:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMControlSet001ControlSession ManagerMemory ManagementDisablePagingExecutive
Change DWord 0 to 1
Thank you so much, I will try that. The only problem is that in the event I need more than 1gb of memeory, I would like Windows to use a pagefile, but only If I go over that 1gb not before then. do you know if this is also possible?
That's great stuff Tuna!!! That's what I love about these forums; there's always something to learn from someone who knows more than you. I've been around awhile, and never picked up that piece.
I think my "blue collar" reply would have worked as well; but there's nothing like a solid Registry fix.
By the way Pimp, you should consider upgrading your RAM to two gig. Go to Kingston or Crucial and MAKE SURE it's designed for your mobo. It's cheap these days, and you could sell the existing. Then you'll never worry about needing that slow pagefile.
My experience with WinXP is that you really don't need to screw with this anymore. For once M$ got it right. If WinXP uses virtual memory before physical memory, it's only to cache rarely-used memory (most often kernel) so that more of the physical memory is free for programs that would actually use it. I've never heard of a performance problem relating to this. In fact, it actually improves performance by making more real RAM available to the programs that need it. (Which is totally opposite of older versions of Windows like 98.)
So I have to ask, are you concerned because you're actually seeing a performance loss? Or is this just paranoia born of prior versions of Windows?
I don't need to ditch my old ram, I have another pair of slots. My virtual memory is being used by frequently used programs, not rarely used ones that I could care a less about. I am not seeing a performance loss per say, I am just not seeing what I know to be possible. When I go into my start menu and scroll over to my programs, I have a folder with 64 gamehouse games. My harddrive is accessed and it takes 3-5 seconds for anything to appear. Once I do that once, If I don't do anything else memory intensive, even for days, the programs appear instantly. Also, when I am uncompressing files in the forground, high priority, my page file is in use while there is available system ram. I just want my 1 gb of ram to actually be used, until it is I see no real need for 2gb.
Also Tuna, I went and checked my registery, that value you mentioned was already set to 1, because I had already set it up in the Windows Virtual Memory Advanced area of the control panel. My pagefile is not set at 300mb though, it is set at non-existant. I will try to change it to 300, and I will get back to you.
Thank you all for you imput. I really like talking about this kind of stuff, and I just bore everyone I know to tears when I do. I think I will grow to really enjoy this fourm.
I will check out that article. Thank you. Are you sure that you can;t read that picture. It is 1024x768 on my screen when I expand it. It is no on my computer, so I should be seeing the same thing as you.
i click on the picture and opens in a new window clear as a normal page.
I wouldn't worry about not using a page file. Not haveing one could actually slow down the computer. I have done both and noticed no speed increase by not having one.
Most of the page file is going to be stuff that isnt used that often.
The reason the folder takes longer to load the first time, and it does this on mine, is becuase its not cached.
I wouldnt waste your time with this.
My harddrive is accessed and it takes 3-5 seconds for anything to appear.
- Pimp - I see it's a bit too late to answer - but - anyway.
- I understood your start menu is not working properly. - Now we all got Vista's and this is what you have to do: go to properties for taskbar under start menu->customize and remove the 'highlight newly installed programs' feature at once!
I have a slightly different variation of this problem that I have not been able to solve - I am running a P4 2.8Ghz with XP SP3 1GB ram. The system is not using any physical ram, at least not according to task manager. For example, right now the PF Usage shows 644MB and the Commit Charge at the very bottom also shows the same 644MB (interestingly the Commit Charge in the lower left of the 4 boxes shows slightly higher, 660MB). These numbers always match and I can watch them grow as the pc boots and loads programs.
To me it appears the system is using only the page file and none of the physical ram, so everything takes forever to run.
Anyone have an idea? I have tried tweaking PF settings to no avail and also tried the registry tweak mentioned above.