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March 24, 2007 5:38:17 AM

I read the CPU buying guide and it mentioned there to avoid the Pentium D except for the 805 model. Where I live they don't sell 805's anymore and due to budget restrictions I can only afford a Pentium D 915. Is this processor not really worth the money? What other processor can I purchase on the same price range as the 915? I'd appreciate your help guys. Thanks. :D 

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March 24, 2007 5:41:19 AM

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Does Pentium D Series Really Suck?

Is Rosie O'Donnell a fat, obnoxious pig that everyone wishes would fall under a train?

The answer to both is yes.
March 24, 2007 5:43:26 AM

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I read the CPU buying guide and it mentioned there to avoid the Pentium D except for the 805 model. Where I live they don't sell 805's anymore and due to budget restrictions I can only afford a Pentium D 915. Is this processor not really worth the money? What other processor can I purchase on the same price range as the 915? I'd appreciate your help guys. Thanks. :D 
If you're willing to overclock them... they can perform well in some apps... but games aren't their forte'... even when highly overclocked. I just bought a D915 2 weeks ago....til i get my Core2Duo. :wink:
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March 24, 2007 5:44:52 AM

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Does Pentium D Series Really Suck?

Is Rosie O'Donnell a fat, obnoxious pig that everyone wishes would fall under a train?

The answer to both is yes.Especially....... "The Donald" :D  :D  :D  :D 
March 24, 2007 5:51:53 AM

oh i see. thanks for the info. so do you guys have any other processors in mind that you would recommend? Just please bear in mind I'm on a tight budget. hehe :D 
March 24, 2007 5:52:57 AM

You should wait until April 9. Rumor is on the 9th AMD is going to be slashing CPU prices drastically.
March 24, 2007 5:53:45 AM

Pretty much any X2 Athlon, the 65nm versions if there available to you. There the 2nd best after the C2D's.
March 24, 2007 5:53:55 AM

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oh i see. thanks for the info. so do you guys have any other processors in mind that you would recommend? Just please bear in mind I'm on a tight budget. hehe :D 
The x2 3600+ is an exceptional value, if/when overclocked... and still a great value if not. GL :) 
March 24, 2007 6:03:03 AM

i wouldn't sell out on the d series.. they have some solid oc's but high temps.. but if you are choosing, go for a low end eXXXX series cause they oc like crazy
March 24, 2007 6:03:44 AM

thanks guys. you've all been of great help. if it weren't for you guys i would have bought the crappy 915. hehe. thanks again
March 24, 2007 6:06:15 AM

Maybe it would be better to ask 'what do you currently have' before answering that question. So I ask.

The probable answer is 'yes, they suck...', but without the above it will be hard to tell you what's better.
March 24, 2007 6:14:22 AM

i currently have an e6600 running at 2.9 ghz without breaking a sweat. the new c2d are beautiful.. great processors that intel honestly lowered the clock rate on for some odd reason. you oc them like crazy.. i can run my computer at 3.1 with ease. on stock air. orthos stabl for 20 minutes... not much time but whatever.. they oc like crazy... i have the gigabyte GA-965P-S3.. its a beauty for low cost ocing


the d series are great processors.. they just run at unBELIEVEable high temps when u get to high frequencies.. if your are buying.. go with the e series... cant beat it.. amd wont have an answer for 4-6 months..



yeah.. if you have the money.. get the e6600, or better.. if you can go for the quad cores,, that stuff is nutts and will hold up in time. there really arnt any programs to take advantage of them. i just built the new system with the e6600 and its awesome.. has great ocing.. but the e6300 is great as well.. with no time, and a great mobo of course, you can have the e6300 running at the quad speeds.. go with the new intels for now.. amd has nothing comparable at the moment..
March 24, 2007 6:28:08 AM

yeah.. jack hit what i was saying with ALOT more beautiful words.. good stuff. go for the e series.. you WILL NOT be disapointed....
March 24, 2007 9:13:38 AM

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it doesnt suck any more than amd does against c2d right now.amd kix PD to hell.

With this you implied against the X2s, right, because if you take PentiumD vs Core 2 :?
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March 24, 2007 10:13:32 AM

Pentium D sux and the worst of them were 805's. The only reason people even considered using the 805 was because it was dirt cheap.
March 24, 2007 10:28:40 AM

Hmmm... Wasn't all that long ago that I read many posts bragging on the P D's clockability etc... It was the 'bee's knees' about 18 mos. ago. How time flies.

Any one want to 'fess up? Or do I have to go back through a whole bunch of posts...

(joking, I can't be bothered....)
March 24, 2007 10:47:07 AM

In comparison to Core 2, yes.
March 24, 2007 10:57:23 AM

Theres no reason why they would suck.
They offer extremely solid performance for the money (of course not when compared to C2D but hey) and - simply - enough performance for everyone.
Theres a huge number of mainbords and chipsets for them.
They overclock sky-high so that they can even compete with some C2D models.
And in the end, inventories are full of em => low price.
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March 24, 2007 10:57:41 AM

Look at my posts from back then, I was telling people the 805 was junk from the start. People were buying it to try and get 4GHz, but the 915 was hitting EE965 speeds at much lower temperatures and voltage levels, using the stock EE965 bus speed with superior performance compared to overclocked 805's. And even though the 915 at EE965 speed was fast, I was still pushing AMD for its superior efficiency.
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March 24, 2007 11:26:38 AM

well man i have pentium D 930 and i am happy with it. for the price i paid and the performence. it does get hot if your using 100% cpu my temp goes to 61 degree. i have never overclocked it. so if your going to overclock it a bit or not at all. your good. you be happy
March 24, 2007 11:40:38 AM

It doesn't suck that bad. I used the 840 and the only bad I can say about it is that it is very hot. 840 and the EE are the hottest chip there is, good for heating the room as well. Works great and all but if you don't like hot cpu then avoid the Pentium D 800 series. The 805 is indeed a very good chip for overclocking.
March 24, 2007 11:57:18 AM

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I read the CPU buying guide and it mentioned there to avoid the Pentium D except for the 805 model. Where I live they don't sell 805's anymore and due to budget restrictions I can only afford a Pentium D 915. Is this processor not really worth the money? What other processor can I purchase on the same price range as the 915? I'd appreciate your help guys. Thanks. :D 
You don't tell us what your current motherboard/RAM/Video Card/PSU are. If you are really tight for money, have a motherboard that supports Pentium D's, but not Core2Duo, and have a decent PSU....and really can't wait and save more money for a better setup, then a D915-D945 will probably do the job. Not much more we can say...Totally depends on the person's(your) situation, and it may be good for you, but not a good option for most other people. GL :) 
March 24, 2007 5:19:22 PM

everyones pretty much saying the same thing now.. lol.. they arent that bad of procs.. they oc high but heat up like woah. also.. dont expect them to be a core2duo, the architecture just isnt there.. so in reality, if you get the d series, you will have some nice performance (given you buy other quality parts), but if you can, save up and get a low end exxxx c2d cause they oc like more woah.
March 24, 2007 5:35:53 PM

The Pentium D 940 is $100 at TigerDirect :D .

With some decent air cooling that is an easy 4ghz.
March 24, 2007 6:09:15 PM

wo wo wo.. stop right there. DO NOT BUY FROM TIGER DIRECT. just go to the better business bureaus website and thats more than enough reasons.. it is an awful company that has a track record of selling used/refurbished/damaged parts. and also for ignoring customer emails and phone calls.

i once heard a story of a customer going directly to pick up an item from the warehouse and watching an employee accidentally dump a soda into a barebone box and then do nothing about it. go with newegg.. soo much better.. great service and support. and prices and quality as well..
March 24, 2007 6:13:28 PM

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wo wo wo.. stop right there. DO NOT BUY FROM TIGER DIRECT. just go to the better business bureaus website and thats more than enough reasons.. it is an awful company that has a track record of selling used/refurbished/damaged parts. and also for ignoring customer emails and phone calls.

i once heard a story of a customer going directly to pick up an item from the warehouse and watching an employee accidentally dump a soda into a barebone box and then do nothing about it. go with newegg.. soo much better.. great service and support. and prices and quality as well..


Only suggesting because they had a pretty nice sale.

Interestingly, I was under the assumption that TigerDirect was one of the more reliable sites up there with NewEgg. A quick check at Reseller Ratings changed my mind.
March 24, 2007 6:16:18 PM

ive seen them sell liek dvd burners for 5 dollars but then charge 60$ shipping..

they are soo screwed up.. charge liek 75$ shipping for a proc and stuff like that..
March 24, 2007 7:24:25 PM

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everyones pretty much saying the same thing now.. lol.. they arent that bad of procs.. they oc high but heat up like woah. also.. dont expect them to be a core2duo, the architecture just isnt there.. so in reality, if you get the d series, you will have some nice performance (given you buy other quality parts), but if you can, save up and get a low end exxxx c2d cause they oc like more woah.
No, everyone is not saying the same thing.
Let me make this perfectly clear...
THEY SUCK
March 24, 2007 9:13:56 PM

here is just one quick reference..
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=pd900&pa...
if you have read the rest of the forum you would understand that anyone with a really opinion and input is saying something beyond.. THEY SUCK.. it depends on your wallet.. they are not cor2duos.. you cannot even compare the netburst design with the c2d..
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March 24, 2007 9:20:01 PM

My reference points for the Pentium D 805 were the Pentium D 915 and various Athlon 64 X2's. The 915 was clearly superior at both stock and overclocked speeds, while the X2's were far more efficient.

No mention of Core 2 Duos here, the 805 just wasn't a very good choice to begin with.
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March 24, 2007 9:40:44 PM

The Pentium D 900 series are much better chips than the 800 series. They run a bunch cooler and can overclock much higher without melting. Note that "running cooler" is a very relative term as the Pentium D 900s were still extremely hot-running CPUs compared to the Athlon 64 X2s and Core 2 Duos.

The Pentium D 915 isn't THAT horrible of a chip and can make sense to get if you're in a certain situation. That situation would be if you're upgrading a computer that has a motherboard that will support no newer of a CPU than the Pentium D 900 series and currently has a Pentium 4 single-core sitting in there. The 915 is a dirt-cheap chip and would be a good upgrade from a low-to-midrange Pentium 4 single-core. If you have a little nicer Pentium 4 chip like a 3.4 GHz or better unit, then I'd consider getting a faster Pentium D like the 3.4 GHz 945. It's also pretty cheap. But if your motherboard does support Core 2 Duo CPUs, then the Core 2 Duos are much better than the Pentium Ds.

However, if you're getting a new computer and don't want to spend a lot, don't bother with the Pentium D series. For $100, the Athlon 64 X2 3600+ Brisbane is a much faster chip than the Pentium D 915 is and runs a ton cooler. Any of the other sub-$300 Athlon 64 X2s are also a good deal and will outrun Pentium Ds while being a lot cooler. These chips also outperform Intel's newer and far-improved Core 2 Duo chips at equivalent price points as well. Above $300, you're better off getting a Core 2 Duo.
March 24, 2007 9:44:55 PM

Quote from your GamePC link:
"Perhaps given our low initial expectations for these processors, we actually are finishing up this lab report with a fairly positive impression of the Pentium-D 900-series processors."
Damning with faint praise...
Even as Intel kept dropping their price for these, the AMD offerings just made more sense in terms of performance and efficiency.
Just as today we see with the Intel Exxxx series, the roles have reversed.
The difference is that the AMD price drops have been much more severe, and their products perform well while not also doubling as space heaters.
When strapped for cash AMD can still make good sense. Netburst past the Northwood series just never did. The D805 with its 533 bus was one of the worst.
March 24, 2007 10:17:18 PM

pentium d doesnt really suck but there are better products out there that you can spend your money on if your on a budget, especially when the april price cuts come around. You will be able to get a athlon x2 3800+ for under $100
March 25, 2007 6:44:33 AM

Looks like I'll be getting an X2 3600+. But i still have one problem. There are limited boards for X2 that are currently available where I live. These include:

1.) Asus M2NPV-MX
2.) MSI K9N Neo-F

If you have any other boards in mind please tell me. I'd go search for them. Thanks again.
March 25, 2007 7:15:55 AM

I've built a few systems for people using that Asus board. It's nice for the price.
March 25, 2007 2:40:35 PM

Yes, Pentium D is a disaster. Netburst overall was the greatest mistake in Intel's history.
March 25, 2007 2:57:52 PM

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Yes, Pentium D is a disaster. Netburst overall was the greatest mistake in Intel's history.
Well, there's always the 820 chipset history, early Pentium math calculation errors, Itanium...
March 25, 2007 3:53:42 PM

IMO Netburst is #1 stupid mistake in Intel history. It wasted them 3 years(time==money), they lost huge portion of the market, they lost their reputation, leaded them in wrong direction, made their competitor much more stronger.
March 25, 2007 5:11:57 PM

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I've built a few systems for people using that Asus board. It's nice for the price.



can i still OC the x2 3600 using the Asus M2NPV-MX ?
March 25, 2007 6:43:22 PM

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Yes, Pentium D is a disaster. Netburst overall was the greatest mistake in Intel's history.
I would have to disagree... Going with RAMBUS was a bigger mistake. At least they sold sh!tloads of P4's, and they learned valuable lessons with Netburst. Even though Netburst has a lousy reputation for power usage/heat output, they are still reliable processors which do still overclock well, can handle extremely high temps(by CPU standards), and voltage(with the exception of Northwood) and general abuse. :D  They really are like a tough, burly lumberjack... who needs some lessons in manners/civility before sitting at the dinner table. :wink: (no offense to lumberjacks...the world over :p  ). RAMBUS was expensive as hell, had compatability issues, and didn't hold a candle to DDR. My .02c :D  :D 
March 25, 2007 7:30:17 PM

RAMBUS was definitely a bigger mistake. I remember the job I was as when the first RAMBUS P4s came out. The p4s would barely outperform, or underperform the new P3s we had. They were OK for CAD work, but for general computing or support, they sucked. We hated them, big time.
March 25, 2007 7:47:58 PM

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pentium d doesnt really suck but there are better products out there that you can spend your money on if your on a budget, especially when the april price cuts come around. You will be able to get a athlon x2 3800+ for under $100


So what you're really saying is they suck.
March 25, 2007 8:09:07 PM

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Looks like I'll be getting an X2 3600+. But i still have one problem. There are limited boards for X2 that are currently available where I live. These include:

1.) Asus M2NPV-MX
2.) MSI K9N Neo-F

If you have any other boards in mind please tell me. I'd go search for them. Thanks again.


If these are your only choices, you must get the MSI K9N Neo-F, its got a NF550 Chipset wich is bettter than the 6150, its not micro ATX, its just a better board.. Keep in mind, there are much better boards to be found but if you are that limited get the MSI K9N Neo-F
March 25, 2007 8:16:37 PM

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Does Pentium D Series Really Suck?

I wouldn't wish it on my mother in law.
March 25, 2007 8:34:35 PM

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I read the CPU buying guide and it mentioned there to avoid the Pentium D except for the 805 model. Where I live they don't sell 805's anymore and due to budget restrictions I can only afford a Pentium D 915. Is this processor not really worth the money? What other processor can I purchase on the same price range as the 915? I'd appreciate your help guys. Thanks. :D 
Get an AMD X2 3800-4200 or a C2D 6300,Pentium Ds are under powered heat bags.
March 25, 2007 8:37:03 PM

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IMO Netburst is #1 stupid mistake in Intel history. It wasted them 3 years(time==money), they lost huge portion of the market, they lost their reputation, leaded them in wrong direction, made their competitor much more stronger.


I'd vote for the iAPX432, an utter disaster that only made Intel stronger in the long run.
March 28, 2007 2:42:10 PM

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Looks like I'll be getting an X2 3600+. But i still have one problem. There are limited boards for X2 that are currently available where I live. These include:

1.) Asus M2NPV-MX
2.) MSI K9N Neo-F

If you have any other boards in mind please tell me. I'd go search for them. Thanks again.


If these are your only choices, you must get the MSI K9N Neo-F, its got a NF550 Chipset wich is bettter than the 6150, its not micro ATX, its just a better board.. Keep in mind, there are much better boards to be found but if you are that limited get the MSI K9N Neo-F


I did my scouting in the shops and found another board. It's the MSI K9A Platinum. Would you recommend this for OCing? Is it worth the bucks? And what's the 2 slots for PCI for? I don't think it's much use for me.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
March 28, 2007 4:38:40 PM

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Looks like I'll be getting an X2 3600+. But i still have one problem. There are limited boards for X2 that are currently available where I live. These include:

1.) Asus M2NPV-MX
2.) MSI K9N Neo-F

If you have any other boards in mind please tell me. I'd go search for them. Thanks again.


If these are your only choices, you must get the MSI K9N Neo-F, its got a NF550 Chipset wich is bettter than the 6150, its not micro ATX, its just a better board.. Keep in mind, there are much better boards to be found but if you are that limited get the MSI K9N Neo-F


I did my scouting in the shops and found another board. It's the MSI K9A Platinum. Would you recommend this for OCing? Is it worth the bucks? And what's the 2 slots for PCI for? I don't think it's much use for me.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I've heard Its good for overclocking for the most part.. The Xpress 3200 chipset is pretty stellar.. It's the best Crossfire chipset.. NOt my favorite CF board, but its nice and I would go for it! If u mean 2 PCI slots.. It's just expansion slots that you have.. If you me 2 PCI-E x16 slots.. Then its for goin crossfire with ATI video cards.... U get one nice ATI card.. Then a second crossfire edition.. and u are smokin.. you don't really have to.. but its a good bonus for later
March 29, 2007 11:02:59 PM

Totally unimpressed with a d 805....Buy a c2d for as cheap as they are.
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