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2x7600GT in sli mode or single mid range card??

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March 24, 2007 1:25:17 PM

i am in a bit of a pickle i am making a gaming machine (not a top spec one)

so far i have

ASU P5N SLI board
2 GB of OCZ DDR2 800 Mhz ram
and an Intel Core 2 Duo 6400 processor

but for the graphics i was wondering whether to go for 2 cheaper 7600GT's in SLi or to maybe invest in a better single card.

the machine will mainly be used for Counterstrike/Halflife and Photoshop work??

help
March 24, 2007 1:26:42 PM

Single. X1950 midranged lineup....

=)
March 24, 2007 1:38:40 PM

Definetly a single card. You can get an x1950xt for just over $200 these days.
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March 24, 2007 2:05:24 PM

sli aint worth it
March 24, 2007 2:15:08 PM

8800GTS 320MB is the only way to go.

Good Luck
March 24, 2007 2:18:58 PM

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8800GTS 320MB is the only way to go.
Good Luck



w/e you say there killer..... spening an extra $100+ on something that he's only going to be playing HL2 on, nice idea.
March 24, 2007 2:31:18 PM

thanks guys i suppose i can always buy a decent Geforce and Sli it in the future.

looks like i will be getting a single card many thanks again.
March 24, 2007 2:45:22 PM

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thanks guys i suppose i can always buy a decent Geforce and Sli it in the future.

looks like i will be getting a single card many thanks again.


What card you going for?
March 24, 2007 3:13:22 PM

An X1950 Pro would be perfect for what you're wanting to do.
March 24, 2007 4:36:55 PM

i guess a 1950 pro looks favorite now
March 24, 2007 6:01:50 PM

IMHO, SLI is only worth it on top-end cards (8800) and if you have money. Even then, the performance gained per cost is not good.

If you're definitely not going to do SLI in the future and need to buy right now, then yea, 1950 pro is the way to go.

I you are considering SLI, you might want to wait about a month for the 8600. It's DX10 compatible and should edge out 1950 pro by a good margin in DX9.
March 24, 2007 6:45:21 PM

SLI really only makes it worth while to crank up the FSAA and AF at higher resolutions and maximum detail, unless you play alot of Oblivion and even then you'd be better off with a X1950 XT/XTX rather than paying near the same for two 7600GTs. Simply put it's not worth it with the cards you want to get - especially with the 8900GS (near 8800 GTS perf) being around a month or two away for only $200.

If you really can't wait and you want to get something get a 7950 GT. Should be faster than 2 7600 GT cards anyways.
March 24, 2007 7:43:15 PM

no point sli-ing midrange or lowrange. you should get a x1950pro/x1950gt/7900gs/7900gt.
March 25, 2007 8:16:13 AM

Guys, am I missing something?

He's going to play HL2 and Counter Strike Source.

He doesn't even need one mid-range.

He could play those games with a single 7600GT or 1650XT easily.

Don't put power where you don't need it.

What size monitor?

Anything 7600GT/1650XT or up can play HL2/CSS at max settings. BUT, when you put 20" monitors and AA/AF into the equation, we start to have more variables.

Any size screen with full AA/AF, a 1950 Pro or over-clocked 7900GS will handle CSS/HL2 no problem.
March 25, 2007 1:02:37 PM

Why do people say are only going to play a few certain games.

I thought that when I decided I wanted to upgrade my existing computer to play all the games I had missed over the years, but I thought that that would be a waste of money as my computers with a cheapish midrange card would not play many (if any) future games.

So I decided to spend quite a bit of money that would give me a system that would be able to play yesterdays games and hopefully play future games on resonable settings for a good 2 years at least.

Stating the obvious here, but PC components are expensive (for me) and I dont want to waste £80 just to play a couple of particular games.
March 25, 2007 2:52:24 PM

So in your case, oswold, a better video card would be justified. But not in the OP's case...

Well bottom line, forget about SLI first of all, second if the only games you'll want to play with that computer are CS:S and HL2 then a single 7600GT would be enough, but if you want to try some of the newer games then definitely stretch out for a X1950PRO, X1950XT or 8800GTS 320MB, depending on your budget.
March 25, 2007 4:54:05 PM

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Guys, am I missing something?

He's going to play HL2 and Counter Strike Source.

He doesn't even need one mid-range.

He could play those games with a single 7600GT or 1650XT easily.

Don't put power where you don't need it.

What size monitor?

Anything 7600GT/1650XT or up can play HL2/CSS at max settings. BUT, when you put 20" monitors and AA/AF into the equation, we start to have more variables.

Any size screen with full AA/AF, a 1950 Pro or over-clocked 7900GS will handle CSS/HL2 no problem.


yeah never thought of that i have a 20" samsung widescreen mate so i wanted something a little pokier for the near future
March 28, 2007 5:19:35 PM

:arrow: Hey man I hear yah,I bought a 7950gt to play C*C Generals and now 12 games later I can't stop playing CoH,I may have to go to China for some of their treatment for online gaming addiction.
March 28, 2007 11:38:16 PM

To hell with that. Save you money and buy a new 8800 for $259. at the egg. Oh, and next month don't forget boout the X6850 for $299.
March 29, 2007 12:20:53 AM

Get an x1950 xt, superb performance for $199 after mail in rebate(newegg). It also oc's relatively well.
March 29, 2007 12:28:09 AM

for any amount of long term gaming, youll probably want a DX10 capable gpu (an 8800GTS 320 is the cheapest currently)... theres no DX10 games out yet, but itll be nice knowing you at least can have DX10 functionality if you ever did decide to play a DX10 based game (plus any DX9 and older games will play pretty smooth too)... this way you wont have to worry about SLIing 2 mid range cards, and getting less performance than the single card offers anyhow... this assuming you might switch over to vista eventually too
March 29, 2007 3:36:33 AM

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for any amount of long term gaming, youll probably want a DX10 capable gpu


Agreed, to be future proof go for dx10, 8800gts is definitely worth the $60 over 2x7600gt's.
March 29, 2007 6:52:35 AM

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Guys, am I missing something?

He's going to play HL2 and Counter Strike Source.

He doesn't even need one mid-range.

He could play those games with a single 7600GT or 1650XT easily.

Don't put power where you don't need it.

What size monitor?

Anything 7600GT/1650XT or up can play HL2/CSS at max settings. BUT, when you put 20" monitors and AA/AF into the equation, we start to have more variables.

Any size screen with full AA/AF, a 1950 Pro or over-clocked 7900GS will handle CSS/HL2 no problem.



I'm guessing he wants room for future expansion? Doesn't hurt when you don't have to buy a new card every time you switch games.
March 29, 2007 6:55:20 AM

thank you all so i n summary

sli is pretty much worthless on lower end cards and i could actually get a single card solution for a lot less than the price of two cards. I hear what you say about future proofing and my project is probably another month or two from completion anyway so prices will tumble but the initial question i asked has been answered so thank you all.
March 29, 2007 9:27:20 AM

The newest will become the oldest the slowest hence the 8800 320mb. at $259 is on par with 2ea 7600 cards price wise. But will kick there ass.

"The only truth is ones own perseption"
March 29, 2007 9:56:32 AM

100% agree about the performance difference... THG really needs up update their interactive charts too, but for the OP, heres a comparison between the 8800GTS 640 and 2 7600GTs in sli (the 8800GTS 640 is pretty close to the 320 in performance)

halflife 2: episode one
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&m...
March 29, 2007 11:13:57 AM

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yeah never thought of that i have a 20" samsung widescreen mate so i wanted something a little pokier for the near future


Nice. I pretty much have the same build as you, except for slower 667MHz Corsair ram. I also have a 20" Samsung widescreeen; SyncMaster 205BW (what one u got? =D) and I have a Sappire Radeon X1950Pro. I don't play HL2 but I do play CSS. I average about 80-115fps at the monitors native resolution with all settings up high & AAx4 and 2xAF. On larger servers like 48 slot the fps is more like 40-60 but it's normally in normally hangs around 90 for the most part. I am very happy with the results.

Btw, I tried pushing absolutely everything up in the video settings just to see what fps I'd get in CS:S and the results were amazing. 24 slot server All settings up high AFx8 6xAA and it hangs around 70-90fps.

Any other games I play I can play with all settings up high and the card performs well Rome Total War, Medeval 2 Total War, GTA San Andeeas, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory.
March 29, 2007 6:30:05 PM

Emtiph thanks for that i also have the 205BW a really nice screen more than happy with it cheers for the advice on FPS etc
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