Thermaltake 1000w & 1200w psu

why not just a flux capacitor?

''I want a PSU that will be there for when I up-grade the GPU & Memory later... ''

i doubt we will need more watt in the future with the shrinking and 1200 watt whats up with that? ur using 40 harddrives?

with the gpu shrink hopefully we will see em use less watt and DDR3 which will come out in half of 2007 will use less also. u will be fine with a 750watt PSU

Hmm, you could look for the corsair 600w power supply. The damn thing could power a whole 4x4 setup and an sli config. It sez that it's 90% efficient so you'd get the most out of juice.

It'd be better for your electric bill, but haven't checked how much is the damn thing.  

I ran some numbers through a psu calculator and you could get by with a 750wt psu even while running two 8800 GTX cards, which I'm guessing will be comparible to R600's as far as wattage used. If you're only planning on one video card, something in the 600-700wt class would be more appropriate. If you really wanted extra power for other upgrades, a 850wt psu could be used with two video cards. There's no reason to look at 1000-1200wt psus.

It turns some girls on on how much wattage you have. Too bad these girls never leave the WoW realm.

Don't go with thermaltake, I would go with either pc power and cooling, or kolance's 1200w psu. Personally, I think you should dump the armor for the antec p190, since it comes with a dual psu setup for 1200w of continous power, one psu for cpu+gfx, the other psu for the mobo and everything else, not a bad thing to consider imo, especially since good 1kw psus cost $400-$500 on their own and the p190 will cost $400, and it is a beastly case (just don't order it online unless you find free shipping for it, it's going to weigh around 50 lbs, so not the best lan party case either, but it has beastly cooling, is bigger than the p180, they made it possible to wire your cables from the back to get perfect airflow, and it just looks awesome with all the added fans)

Sailer: I'd have to disagree with you on that one, the r600 is going to have an 8pin 12v rail for a reason, for every two pins, you generally add 50w, so for the r600's 14 pins, you get 350w a piece, so double that for xfire to get 700w, and then add 300w for a quadcore, and you already reached a thousand, I know I may be over estimating a bit, but you don't want to stress the psu too much that it fries, which is why I like the p190's dual psu concept, so you don't stress the psus too much but spreading the load over seperate psus

But man, he already got the case, but who knows he might ditch it. Still personally think 1K might be overkill, but if he truly need to have lots of hard disks and XFire, then 1K or even 1.2K PSU is the way to go

Its not that simple, you cant just purchase any old 750wt PSU and expect it to be able to power 2 8800GTX GPU's.


Its the amperage available on the 12v rail that matter.


My 750wt pcpowercooling has 60amps on a single 12 rail and powers my 2 8800GTX's overclocked without breaking a sweat.


Now if I had some crappy 750wt dual rail psu I would be in trouble.

I agree, its not simple. I was just trying to show how much power was actually needed, not which company's psu to buy. You're completely right, a poorly made psu rated at 750wt, or even 850wt, will cause trouble. For that matter, a poorly made 1200wt could cause trouble.

Yeah, I kow, I saw that, but since the cost of a good 1kw psu is already $400+, why not go for the p190 which is an amazing case that comes with a 1200w dual psu kit, why not go for it?

Disagreement accepted. Here's my reasoning, which admittedly may be based on some false assumptions, but its what I have to go by. Using the eXtreme power supply calculator, an Intel Quadro Q6600, overclocked 20% at 1.4V, shows only 196 wts used. Changing the cpu to a QX6700 overclocked 20% is also 196 wts used. Running some guesses on total amount of hardware, I find 564wt used with a single 8800GTX and 750wt for SLI, using a 10% aging factor for surge compensation and 10% for capacitor aging. Even a 20% figure on capacitor aging only yeilds a 813wt use.

Until the R600 actually comes out, we won't know its actual power usage, so only guesses can be made. At the moment, I think a good 850wt psu would suit the need. Only actual figures about the R600 will tell if it has to be 1000wt.

I know, I was going on the high side with my calculations, but what I'm worried about is if a 750w psu could handle the load supplying constantly its max output, I'd go for at least a 1kw psu to be safe in that situation, or a pc power and cooling 750w minimum like what robsx2 has, but he doesn't have a quad core on his rig yet to go with his sli 8800gtxs


btw, what do you think on my new location? 8O

thanks all for all of your insights on the matter.....

Also, i even thought about doing some modding some with hard-drive coolers, ect....

I just didn't want to under calulate...but also didn't want to over kill either...so far a good medium is looking like an 850w psu....but no more than 1kw psu....

I think for the $$$ this is the best 1000watt PSU out there.

It sports 80amps on a single 12 rail. :wink:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256010

Ok, that's a thing I couldn't factor, how much hardware that you have. If you do a lot of mods/hardware additions, a 1000wt psu may be needed. For the moment, though, a 850wt should be enough and will cost a fair amount less. What is really needed is to know how much power a R600 is going to use.

It like I'm planning on a a new build in June and I'm buying parts as I go, such as hard drive, case, and such that won't care what cpu or motherboard I use. But without knowing how much power will be needed, I can't plan on how big a psu to buy. If I buy too big, then I've wasted money on excess power, but if I buy too small, then I've still wasted money because I need to buy a larger psu. Bah, Humbug!

Actually, I'd say this is the best psu for the $$$
http://www.xoxide.com/koolance-psu-1200atx-12s.html


Dang it!! It used to be only $400, but it's still not a bad deal at $500 for 1200w and watercooling for 96amperes But then again, I'd say p190 again, since the case is going to cost $400-$500, and will carry dual psus for a total of 1200w, so I think that would be the best deal if you have seen the amazing case

honestly i doubt u will see the R600 use more watt than 2 8800gtx sli

750watt should be enough 850watt IS enough..

buy a Silverstone Zeus 850w if u wanna be sure, its tier 1

''Tier 1 can handle 4Ghz Conroe or 3Ghz AMD along with Oced Quad Crossfire/SLI With Ease.''

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10...

1200watt psu :roll: talking about overkill, i recommend a flux capacitor

Bah, not very practical plus give me a stout single 12v rail over a multi rail psu any day.

theres a lot of websites recommending the rock solid Power & Cooling 750W QUAD SILENCER. but honestly, we should just wait until mphilchfamily comes to show his acknowledge in Powersupplies  

Rob already has that psu, and I've known about that one for a while, but pc poewr and cooling's 1kw su is something like $500, so in that case you might as well get a watercooled 1200w for the same price instead


Yeah, well, tell that to antec who are going to release a case with dual psus that have a combined wattage of 1200w

Or lack thereof :twisted:

Yeah, well, tell that to antec who are going to release a case with dual psus that have a combined wattage of 1200w


I would take that pcpowercooling 1000w psu over that extra bulky watercooled 1200w psu any day of the week.

It might be a nice psu but its to big for its on good and I am willing to bet the pcpower unit holds up better over the long run.

Probably, I koolance is better known for their water cooling products, not psus