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I really could use some suggestions from all of you good people.

My mother's old analogue TV is failing and she will be getting a new direct
view CRT TV soon. She watches mostly 4:3 TV (off the air) and on rare
occasions she watches DVD's. When it becomes available, I plan on buying
the 5th generation LG/Zenith ATSC receiver for her.

In some of my research, I have seen direct view CRT TVs that are 4:3 and
labeled HDTV ready. I have also seen 4:3 TVs that are labeled 16:9
Enhanced. I have no idea what the distinction is between those two terms
when it comes to a 4:3 TV. What is the difference? What kind of 4:3 TV
should she get? I think she would like to keep the price at $1000 or less.
She probably would be happiest with a screen diagonal between 28" and 32".

Please feel free to make suggestions that go beyond what I have described.
If you have any links that can help me, that would be good too.

Sincerely,

Neil
Salem, MA USA

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On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:19:01 +0000, Neil wrote:

> I really could use some suggestions from all of you good people.
>
> My mother's old analogue TV is failing and she will be getting a new direct
> view CRT TV soon. She watches mostly 4:3 TV (off the air) and on rare
> occasions she watches DVD's. When it becomes available, I plan on buying
> the 5th generation LG/Zenith ATSC receiver for her.
>
> In some of my research, I have seen direct view CRT TVs that are 4:3 and
> labeled HDTV ready. I have also seen 4:3 TVs that are labeled 16:9
> Enhanced. I have no idea what the distinction is between those two terms
> when it comes to a 4:3 TV. What is the difference? What kind of 4:3 TV
> should she get? I think she would like to keep the price at $1000 or less.
> She probably would be happiest with a screen diagonal between 28" and 32".
>
> Please feel free to make suggestions that go beyond what I have described.
> If you have any links that can help me, that would be good too.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Neil
> Salem, MA USA
Under $1000, 28"- 32" is a standard analog TV not an HDTV. If you are
worried about digital compatibility, don't, the cable box handles that.
You can get a good analog TV for a few hundred dollars, a 30" shouldn't
set you back more than $700-$800. There are LCD HDTVs in the 1K range but
they are small.

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> Under $1000, 28"- 32" is a standard analog TV not an HDTV.

Perhaps your definition of HDTV is more stringent than the manufacturers?
Maybe you shop poorly? Whatever the reason, this statement is not generally
true.

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"Neil" <ThisIsNotARealAddress@xyzabc1234.com> wrote in message
news:FN%7d.315800$Fg5.183182@attbi_s53...
> I really could use some suggestions from all of you good people.
>
> My mother's old analogue TV is failing and she will be getting a new
direct
> view CRT TV soon. She watches mostly 4:3 TV (off the air) and on rare
> occasions she watches DVD's. When it becomes available, I plan on buying
> the 5th generation LG/Zenith ATSC receiver for her.
>
> In some of my research, I have seen direct view CRT TVs that are 4:3 and
> labeled HDTV ready. I have also seen 4:3 TVs that are labeled 16:9
> Enhanced. I have no idea what the distinction is between those two terms
> when it comes to a 4:3 TV. What is the difference? What kind of 4:3 TV
> should she get? I think she would like to keep the price at $1000 or
less.
> She probably would be happiest with a screen diagonal between 28" and 32".
>
> Please feel free to make suggestions that go beyond what I have described.
> If you have any links that can help me, that would be good too.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Neil
> Salem, MA USA
>
>
I'd get her a plain old $300 27" analog set. Even if you put the $300 you
save under you mattress, you'll be able to buy her a new 27" HD set with it
in 3-4 years, assuming enough of her favorite programs are in HD by then to
make it worth the trouble.

The 16:9 enhanced mode, also referred to as vertical compression can make
widescreen enhanced DVDs look better by showing them at full resolution in
the letterboxed picture. I believe this feature is available in some analog
sets too.

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Neil wrote:
> I really could use some suggestions from all of you good people.
>
> My mother's old analogue TV is failing and she will be getting a new direct
> view CRT TV soon. She watches mostly 4:3 TV (off the air) and on rare
> occasions she watches DVD's. When it becomes available, I plan on buying
> the 5th generation LG/Zenith ATSC receiver for her.
>
> In some of my research, I have seen direct view CRT TVs that are 4:3 and
> labeled HDTV ready.
"Ready" means you need to buy an additional HDTV receiver
I have also seen 4:3 TVs that are labeled 16:9
> Enhanced.
"Enhanced" means it displays at 480p maximum resolution
I have no idea what the distinction is between those two terms
> when it comes to a 4:3 TV. What is the difference? What kind of 4:3 TV
> should she get? I think she would like to keep the price at $1000 or less.
I purchased a Sanyo HT32744 32" HDTV from Walmart for $747. It displays
all programming at 1080i (true HD - not enhanced). Has a built in OTA
HDTV tuner - just connect an antenna to receive SD and HD programming.
Mom will need only one remote. Many Walmart stores are now selling this
set for $699. I love this set for the price. Best of luck.

Dave - N2LAK

> She probably would be happiest with a screen diagonal between 28" and 32".
>
> Please feel free to make suggestions that go beyond what I have described.
> If you have any links that can help me, that would be good too.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Neil
> Salem, MA USA
>
>

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On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 03:21:24 GMT, "M Schmidt"
<martinschmidt57@hotmail.com> wrote:


>...
>The 16:9 enhanced mode, also referred to as vertical compression can make
>widescreen enhanced DVDs look better by showing them at full resolution in
>the letterboxed picture. I believe this feature is available in some analog
>sets too.
>

There's been some issues with the vertical compression on some sets.
People complain that the geometry is thrown off. Attempts to correct
it then cause problems at full screen ;)

Do one of those websites that has customer reviews and check out the
feedback.

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On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:56:54 GMT, "M Schmidt"
<martinschmidt57@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Under $1000, 28"- 32" is a standard analog TV not an HDTV.
>
>Perhaps your definition of HDTV is more stringent than the manufacturers?
>Maybe you shop poorly? Whatever the reason, this statement is not generally
>true.
>

New year, new sets ;)

There's a lot of 26-32" hdtv out there these days, but not at all
stores.

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"Dave Hines" <n2lak@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> "Enhanced" means it displays at 480p maximum resolution
> I have no idea what the distinction is between those two terms

On a 4:3 TV, "16:9 Enhanced" means you can "squeeze" the picture vertically,
to display all 480 lines at a 16:9 widescreen aspect ratio. Without
vertical squeeze, the "letterbox" mode would only use only the centre 360
lines to display widescreen.

If you still watch mainly 4:3 programs, the 16:9 Enhanced mode may be a
better choice than a 16:9 TV, as you get the same resolution in the wide
screen mode.

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Just saw a Samsung (I think) "34 HD-ready set at Target for $699.

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Just saw a Samusung (I think) "26 HD-ready CRT at Target for $699.

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"Neil" <ThisIsNotARealAddress@xyzabc1234.com> wrote in message
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>I really could use some suggestions from all of you good people.
>
> My mother's old analogue TV is failing and she will be getting a new
> direct view CRT TV soon. She watches mostly 4:3 TV (off the air) and on
> rare occasions she watches DVD's. When it becomes available, I plan on
> buying the 5th generation LG/Zenith ATSC receiver for her.
>
> In some of my research, I have seen direct view CRT TVs that are 4:3 and
> labeled HDTV ready. I have also seen 4:3 TVs that are labeled 16:9
> Enhanced. I have no idea what the distinction is between those two terms
> when it comes to a 4:3 TV. What is the difference? What kind of 4:3 TV
> should she get? I think she would like to keep the price at $1000 or
> less. She probably would be happiest with a screen diagonal between 28"
> and 32".

There are some good 27-30" 4:3 HDTV sets in the sub-$1000 price range.
Mostly these now are a pretty good buy: while they are a few hundred dollars
more than a non-HD set of the same size, the price isn't too outrageous.
Most of them now also tend to make regular TV look a little better, if only
because they can eliminate the visible scanlines and smooth out the image
slightly. And they are ready for HD if and when she starts to get such
signals, so it can last longer than a regular non-HD set would.

The "16:9 enhanced" sets are regular 480-line 4:3 TV sets. However, they
have a mode in which the electron gun scan pattern is vertically compressed,
so those 480 lines are "painted" in a smaller height, such that it displays
an aspect ratio of 16:9. This is good for 16:9 (enhanced for widescreen)
DVDs. It may also provide better DTV viewing than other 4:3 analog TVs. For
instance, standard-definition 16:9 digital TV (widescreen 480i/p or EDTV,
which appears to be quite common) should look quite good on these sets, and
even HD should look a bit better than on a regular 4:3 set (it will be
displayed with 480 lines vertically instead of 360), though it still won't
be HD.

Some people will recommend a 16:9 set. Unless your mother is planning to
subscribe to an HD package over digital cable or satellite, or set up an
antenna and buy a receiver to try to pick up local DTV broadcasts, this
would be a waste of money and probably frustrating to her. And it would
reduce the height and overall size of 4:3 images, which is what you say she
mostly watches.

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