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March 28, 2007 1:51:13 AM

Hello, this is the second time I've upgraded my computer and with all the new technology out Im in need of some help.

I read the Overclocking Guide Part 2: Suggested Components and Settings and that is where I chose the processor from. I want a system that will not cost me too much and will be able to handle some of the games I play such as AA and COH. These are the parts I have chosen so far.

Case COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC

Processor AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Windsor 2.2GHz Socket AM2

Motherboard ? I was going to choose one of the ones from that article above but they reviews from newegg don't look that great. I need some recommendations in this area.

Power Supply ? I also need help choosing one of these.

Memory G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800

HDD Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s

Another question is. What happened to AGP? All the mobos I've been looking at do not have a port for it? Did it suddenly become obsolete or something? What is a decent video card for a not too bad of a price? So my old video card is trash now?

As you can see the prices for these items aren't too bad. If you have any other recommendations for the items I have please feel free to shoot them out. I might do some light overclocking and Im having a hard time finding a good reliable mobo.

Thanks in Advance,

Alex

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March 28, 2007 3:37:22 AM

yeah, agp went obsolete a little bit ago.

but asking what a decent video card is depends on what you're into. you can get great performance from an 8800gts 320mb if you're looking for a card in the 200s, and there are a lot of decent video cards in the 100-200 range.
March 28, 2007 4:21:42 AM

Well, I like your choices personally but he is right, agp is dead man. The new cards on their way out are show by a recent article on tom's that new cards are stressin pciE 8x too much so there is actually a need for pciE **x(16x or less if one available). SO, they will just use 16x. You're looking to build a new rig, I guess it is all relative to how much you wanna spend. Whats your price range?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This case pwns for cooling!
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March 28, 2007 5:04:58 AM

At this point, I'd recommend:

CPU: Intel C2D E4300, E6300 (E6400?), or E6600
MB: Gigabyte DS3 or EVGA 680i depending how much you want to spend and if you need SLI
GPU: EVGA 8800GTS 320MB (SC or KO variants if you want)
HDD: WD Raptor 150GB or Seagate 7200.10 (or both)

AMD currently lags in performance (even with overclocking I believe).

It's hard to recommend anything more specific without knowing your budget.
March 28, 2007 5:14:32 AM

it's true that amd has been on the other side of the fence since intel released c2d, but they stay competitive with their aggressive pricing.

i mean, in that price range for an intel, you're looking at what, pentium d? no way would i recommend those over amd x2.
March 28, 2007 3:34:14 PM

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it's true that amd has been on the other side of the fence since intel released c2d, but they stay competitive with their aggressive pricing.

i mean, in that price range for an intel, you're looking at what, pentium d? no way would i recommend those over amd x2.


E4300 is currently $169 (expected to fall to $120ish April 22). E6300 isn't much more (and also gets cut April 22) plus the E6320 will be released for about the same price as the E6300.
March 28, 2007 3:40:23 PM

Price cut list (finally got motivated enough to dig it up).

C2Q Q6600 $851 $530
C2D E6700 $530 $316
C2D E6600 $316 $224
C2D E6420 ---- $183
C2D E6320 ---- $163
C2D E4400 ---- $133
C2D E4300 $163 $113
March 28, 2007 5:45:00 PM

Well my budget is around $700-750. So from what it seems to C2D is the way to go. Maybe I should wait until April 22 when the price cuts take place? Is C2D really that much better over AMD X2?

From the price list that wilcoxon is showing, if I want to stay within my budget I will have to go with the C2D E4300. Is that processor better than the one I have chosen right now(AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Windsor 2.2GHz Socket AM2)?
March 28, 2007 6:47:17 PM

See this recent review on Tom's. The E4300 is notably faster than the X2 4600+ at stock speeds and is supposed to be a very good overclocker.
March 29, 2007 1:52:05 AM

Hmm maybe I will wait for the price drop of the E4300. What would be a good mobo to match it up with for under 150? Also they recommend DDR2 667 over the 800, why is that? and a PSU?
March 29, 2007 4:08:42 AM

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Hmm maybe I will wait for the price drop of the E4300. What would be a good mobo to match it up with for under 150? Also they recommend DDR2 667 over the 800, why is that? and a PSU?


Gigabyte DS3 is a nice mobo for <$150 ($120ish iirc).

I'm not sure why they recommend 667 over 800. Possibly almost as good at overclocking for a lower price?

A good PSU is important. Look at the Tier 1, Z, or 2 ones in the PSU tier article linked from the stickied PSU 101 article in the PSU forum. Personally, I like the Seasonic S12 Energy+ (very quiet (from what I've read and heard - haven't gotten mine yet)).
March 29, 2007 6:02:07 AM

When using a lower clocked CPU, even when overclock the memory to FSB ratio is closer to 1:1 with 667 RAM so you can save money without losing performance. If you are not overclocking, no brainer, get 667. If you might upgrade the CPU in the near future and want the RAM to follow along, then you can think about spending the extra up front instead of having to bump up the RAM also.
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