8800 Ultra Release, April... or maybe not?

This is getting stupid now

The rumour of a spoiler release from Nvidia suggests that it already knows that 8800 GTX will be beaten in the benchmarks by the top-end R600, which is why it is pushing out an even faster version. Given that not even the most demanding Vista games on the market today even come close to taxing an 8800 GTX, just how fast is fast enough?

Who needs an ULTRA and for What ?? where are the Games !!! What the heck is going on .

Anyway i am very happy with my 8800 gts . Runs everything or should i say everything runs away from it

Great purchase

Not as far as i know .

Secondly you can buy a 8800 ultra buy spending 600$ no problem i wont argue on the money aspect cause its yours and you can spend it as you like However,

You will need to be warned of the following

Heat issues , High end card lots of HEAT .

You will need a super High END psu to run that card .

You will need a good cabinet for good ventilation as well as space.

You will need a fairly fast Processor to get any real benefits .

To optimise your purchase you will or should buy a 24' or greater monitor

otherwise i will run games as fast as you in most cases 8O on some resolutions but still it shouldn't be compared cause i only pay half the money.

You will need stable drivers -which you wont get for a while like me specially if you run Vista , which you will need to For the DX10 games.

Right on the Games , *looks left right up down * Can't see them .

I love the English language , WHEN IF HOW beautiful

When crysis , If crysis can't, How am i going to run Crysis ,

You have to love the word Hypothetical - Its all hypothetical .

So keeping all those things in mind ...well

Also the 8800 gts thing , i bought cause it works out well for me that is the games i play resolution, And on most points i listed here . Also i am more than Happy . The Gtx and Ultra will be FASTER CARDS BUT NOT ON THE RESOLUTIONS I PLAY AND FOR THE MONEY I SPENT

agreed...500% true... ultra or 8900gtx...it ll be good only for ultra high resolutions, ultra fast processors and ultra powerful psu's...so for the time being GTS is the way to go as far as i am concerned...

Very simple if money isn't a factor when choosing a gfx card, the 8800gtx/Ultra > the 8800gts how ever you see it.
It was how ever a factor for me so i went with the 8800gts.

Saying not to buy the 8800gtx/Ultra cause there is no games that is bringing the 8800gts to its knees, is like... saying don't buy the 8800gts because the x1950xtx is all you need for current games, isn't it?

agreed...500% true... ultra or 8900gtx...it ll be good only for ultra high resolutions, ultra fast processors and ultra powerful psu's...so for the time being GTS is the way to go as far as i am concerned...

I'm guessing you have a GTS lol

A gts is not a slow card , i don't know how you have got this impression

but here see this comparison http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/arti [...] VzaWFzdA==


Its a great card for the money , i am not taking this too seriously

I want you to compare your needs to what you would get performance wise out of your purchase .

Good luck either way

Afaik the x1950xtx still does very well in all CURRENT games, so in your words where are the games that the x1950xtx/8800gtx/ultra can't play as well as the 8800gts?.

Am i wrong in saying some people don't care about price/performance and just go for the top of the line?
I even said in my post i had money as an factor thats why i went with the gts, but again some people dont mind paying for the latest and greatest or even pay loads for a less good card from another manufacturer.

What im saying is the reasons you posted for not getting the 8800gtx/Ultra is the same reason people shouldn't get the gts if they got a x1950xtx or less...
I thought you could buy whatever you wanted, whatever the reason and not be called a retard by someone so obviously bias about his own card...

Edit:
Oh yeah i was to lazy putting 8800 in there, did it now.
And yeah the xtx was a bad example cause it was so expensive most companies don't carry it anymore.
But still, price/performance isn't everything for everybody.
According to your own link the x1950xt is still a good card for current games.

Read my 1st post in response to the OP and if you still think your response to my post is not lil off the target then

Your point that money / performance is not everything to everyone is taken

ALSO THIS post is not about NOT BUYING THE 8900 ULTRA its more about what all would be needed to COMPLIMENT THE CARD , see my post

Please read it carefully you have misunderstood 8O

Well i did read this first and then i lost my train of thought when replying to you, cause im at work atm.
What i interpreted was you saying who needs a faster card, theres no need cause there is no software that bottlenecks current cards.

I then made an opinion saying not getting the 8800gtx/ultra cause they are overkill atm, is like saying don't get the 8800gts cause the x1950xtx is enough atm for current games.
Can we agree on that x1950xt < x1950xtx < 8800gts < 8800gtx < ultra(probably)?
Even your own link tells me that the x1950xt is really good with current games.

So i find it funny that many of the reasons for not getting the ultra also applies to your card if you got something less.
If you want a highend card you would probably need to get all those things even if its an 8800gts, that you recommended.

And since we both agree on that some don't care about price/performance, why is getting the ultra different from getting the gts?

Its funny i do know the difference but you still don't get it that if money doesn't matter why not get the latest and greatest?

All that and i didn't give you an insult...

whoa, some fellas here need decaf, seriously...,

I would advise folks to just stick with 8800GTX's as they are plentiful, fairly overclockable and offer great performance, now.

I have read reports, (again just reports) that yield numbers for the R600 are very low and initial release of the units will number in the tens of thousands which may sound like plenty but these numbers include the quantities that go to OEM builders worldwide. Once they take their cut, there won't be hardly any left for retail vendors at all. I wouldn't see quantities start to become great until the end of the year. Also low availability transfers into high cost not lower.

If you want to wait that long and have a computer system capable of high power wattage and CPU speed to feed the card than you are welcome to wait.

If the 8800Ultra really comes out in April, I'll "step-up" to it; Oblivion needs it...

End of the year? Riiight !
the 20-40,000 unit number is over half that of the GF8800 GTX/GTS launch, and even they took 6 months to sell half a million with no competition. The 80nm parts are being replaced by the 65nm parts, so it's unlikely that the rush is going to be as great initially knowing that the better part is around the corner (look at the X1800XL/XT launch). As for the OEMs, few of them will be making R600 rigs instead of RV6xx rigs, and of those only the big names from CyberPower, Dell/HP (with their Alien/Voodoo) to Falcon NW will be looking at OEM high-end R600 volumes. Most OEMs will be in the XLs and the mid to low range cards.

As for the GTXs, they are over-priced now, people should've bought them when they first came out. If they've waited this long for a new card waiting for the new cards from both nV and ATi makes sense. Unless there's some pressing game/app that needs it now. People who don't care about the price and want the best, should already have bought the GTX, and those looking for value should've already bought the GTS-320, anyone reaching this point, might as well wait for the 2 products to make an apperance before deciding whether the $500+ GTX is still worth it compared to the new competition from both AMD and nV.

The smart ones will do what HeyYou is doing and Step-up, or Sell and move to whichever platform is best for Pr0n, err... I mean.... games.

well this is from Winmaclin Admin at the true beta forum I thought it would be interesting to consider actual preview witnesses:

I rolled my eyes , at the meager 200 points spread and that wattage is ridiculous.

And as we all know Bungholiomarks mean so much.

BTW. what does the wattage have to do with pricing and availability? Try to stick to one thing at a time. Wattage won't matter to the people who want the best. Wattage is for people looking at the mid-range or laptops.

well I guess you miss the whole concept of to little to late (both bungholimarks and efficiency).

A whole bunch of new 8600's and 8500 are out but still no knew 8800 Ultra/8900 >_<