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March 28, 2007 1:42:36 PM

I am running a C2D E6700 but sadly, I am only using a Radeon 9600xt and 1gb of DDR1 400.

Right now Newegg is having a sale and you can get a 7600gt for 100.00 after rebate and you can get 2gb of DDR2 800 for 180ish.


What do you think would be the better upgrade? The card or the ram?

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a b K Overclocking
March 28, 2007 2:33:09 PM

My opinion, I'd get the memory now and wait about a month or so on the video card, then look at what's available. I'd go for something better than a 7600.
March 28, 2007 2:43:27 PM

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My opinion, I'd get the memory now and wait about a month or so on the video card, then look at what's available. I'd go for something better than a 7600.

Agreed... if you're looking at eventually purchasing both of these upgrades, go for the memory first... video card technology changes at a more rapid pace than memory... so if you buy the memory today, you'll likely be looking at an even higher end video card tomorrow for the same price.
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March 30, 2007 2:19:18 AM

As an upgrade to have an noticeable effect on game performance I always look at videocard -> cpu -> memory. So I would go with a 7900 they run around $200 these days. 8)
March 30, 2007 3:05:28 AM

Get the 2GB RAM, then wait for the GF 8600 to come out.
March 30, 2007 11:10:03 AM

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Get the 2GB RAM, then wait for the GF 8600 to come out.


If 8600 is coming out soon I would wait for it too :wink:
March 30, 2007 11:40:14 AM

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Get the 2GB RAM, then wait for the GF 8600 to come out.


If 8600 is coming out soon I would wait for it too :wink:

i think it will come soon...a few weeks may be ??? just a guess :) 
March 31, 2007 4:39:01 AM

go with the memory upgrade for sure, better all around system performance. trust me... 1gb vs. 2gb is like night and day once you've experienced both :wink:
April 2, 2007 5:02:20 AM

Thank you for the replies.

Upon further investigation, it looks like my ASRock board only supports DDR2 667. Would that still be a worthwhile upgrade?

I see there is a 2gig set on Newegg for about 110.00. So the price is right.
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a b K Overclocking
April 2, 2007 5:31:08 AM

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So the price is right.

A good show once.
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a b K Overclocking
April 2, 2007 5:58:21 AM

Let me ask the stupid question first.

Your looking to replace either your 9600XT (agp card) with a 7600GT (I assume the PCIe model) or your DDR400 ram with DDR2 ram? I hope your running on of those Asrock boards that supports DDR/DDR2 and AGP/PCIe.

As for which one, I'm not sure. What do you do with your machine? What is taking to long right now? Adding memory will help with multitasking, but adding a new video card will allow for better FPS. Also, I could be wrong, but I think that Asrock board only has 4X PCIe lanes going to the 16x slot. You might be best off upgrading to DDR2 now, and then a new motherboard/video card later when you have the $$$. (or upgrade the video and use it, and then upgrade the motherboard)
April 2, 2007 6:14:41 AM

what Operating System you running? and 64bit or 32bit?
a b U Graphics card
a b K Overclocking
April 2, 2007 6:15:14 AM

With a 7600gt, pcie 4x isnt going to affect much. Its not like its a 8800 or anything.
April 2, 2007 6:22:52 AM

I am running XP Pro now, 32 bit.
It is the ASRock with the 4x PCIe slot.
I use it for gaming, but not very often anymore since most games are pretty laggy with my video card these days. I also use it for day to day crap. I realize that I have more than enough computer for my daily tasks.

Nothing is taking too long at this point but I am working towards an eventual upgrade to a better mobo, PCIe video card, and 2gb of DDR2 ram. I am just looking for advice as to which would be the better upgrade path. Right now I am thinking (based on replies above) that it would be best to upgrade the ram, then the video card, then the mobo.
April 2, 2007 6:37:21 AM

then I would get neither. For 32bit, 1Gb is the sweet spot. If 64bit.....then 2Gbs would help. As for the videocard, the 7600GT would help, but i would suffer a little longer for the R600 launch. ATI will release products across the board, and you should be able to get a much more powerful mid-range card at that time.
April 2, 2007 6:38:55 AM

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go with the memory upgrade for sure, better all around system performance. trust me... 1gb vs. 2gb is like night and day once you've experienced both :wink:


This guy is a dummy in a clown costume!
a b U Graphics card
April 2, 2007 6:55:55 AM

I say RAM. There is a big difference between 1GB and 2GB when gaming REGARDLESS if it's 32bit or 64bit.
April 2, 2007 7:14:08 AM

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I say RAM. There is a big difference between 1GB and 2GB when gaming REGARDLESS if it's 32bit or 64bit.


Show me proof of this! (anything below 20% FPS difference is negligible. IE. 50FPS not huge compared to 60FPS)

And proof must be in Windows XP 32bit, as per what the dude said he had!

And not just a one game anomaly. At least 3 games.

PS. What resolution do you play games at carlhungis? And what games you play?
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a b K Overclocking
April 2, 2007 9:51:39 AM

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go with the memory upgrade for sure, better all around system performance. trust me... 1gb vs. 2gb is like night and day once you've experienced both :wink:


This guy is a dummy in a clown costume!
You've got to be kidding me...

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then I would get neither. For 32bit, 1Gb is the sweet spot. If 64bit.....then 2Gbs would help.

I wont believe that this guy is serious, its not possible for someone to be so stupid.
April 2, 2007 10:42:17 AM

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I say RAM. There is a big difference between 1GB and 2GB when gaming REGARDLESS if it's 32bit or 64bit.


Show me proof of this! (anything below 20% FPS difference is negligible. IE. 50FPS not huge compared to 60FPS)

And proof must be in Windows XP 32bit, as per what the dude said he had!

And not just a one game anomaly. At least 3 games.

PS. What resolution do you play games at carlhungis? And what games you play?



Oblivion
Battlefield 2
Battlefield 2142

3 games off the top of my head, you happy?
a b U Graphics card
a b K Overclocking
April 2, 2007 10:43:56 AM

Where is that camera? What idiot company did that? :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
a b U Graphics card
a b K Overclocking
April 2, 2007 10:47:15 AM

Its not the fact that it increases your framerate as much as it smooths out the gameplay. You get much less stutters at higher resolutions and more detailed textures when you use 2gb. That 1gb is the sweet spot for 32bit is garbage. What about vista 32-bit, you gonna use 1gb for that too? Is that the sweet spot? :lol: 

EDIT: Why would 64-bit prefer 2gb to 1gb anyway? Pull out some other ridiculous response.
April 2, 2007 10:48:46 AM

:lol:  Wish I knew, just found it on another message board
April 3, 2007 12:06:56 AM

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Oblivion
Battlefield 2
Battlefield 2142

3 games off the top of my head, you happy?


Show me proof! Naming games is not proof fool! Show me tests that prove your argument.

I don't want opinions......I want proof!
April 3, 2007 12:20:45 AM

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Oblivion
Battlefield 2
Battlefield 2142

3 games off the top of my head, you happy?


Oblivion memory tests

There is one game crossed off you list. I love when people speak with such conviction without having a real clue!

PS. I'm still waiting for proof.
April 3, 2007 1:09:21 AM

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Oblivion
Battlefield 2
Battlefield 2142

3 games off the top of my head, you happy?


Show me proof! Naming games is not proof fool! Show me tests that prove your argument.

I don't want opinions......I want proof!

Lighten up a little, no need for name calling. This is not the 5th grade :wink:

This will take care of the other two.
April 3, 2007 1:11:01 AM

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Lighten up a little, no need for name calling. This is not the 5th grade :wink:


I'm sorry. But ignorance always gets me riled up!
a b U Graphics card
a b K Overclocking
April 3, 2007 1:16:13 AM

I want proof! I want proof that 32-bit vs 64-bit has anything to do with how much RAM is a "sweet spot".
April 3, 2007 1:22:44 AM

Now see what you have done! You have unleased random


demanding proof cut's both ways :lol: 
April 3, 2007 1:26:28 AM

LOL that picture is frigging gold I love it.

Can I make the mutant cat fish my avatar everett ?
April 3, 2007 1:34:59 AM

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Oblivion
Battlefield 2
Battlefield 2142

3 games off the top of my head, you happy?


Oblivion memory tests

There is one game crossed off you list. I love when people speak with such conviction without having a real clue!

PS. I'm still waiting for proof.

Quoted from your link: "Once we had more memory (2 gigs), we noticed that the game stuttered less while dynamically loading adjacent areas in the overworld. "

Average framerates don't always show the performance increase, having more memory means that framerates generally won't drop as much and the game will run smoother.

Speaking of ignorance, what was that thing about 32 bit needing one GB and 64 bit needing 2GB?
a b U Graphics card
April 3, 2007 1:40:41 AM

So do I! I'm still lost how 1GB is the sweet spot for 32-bit considering Vista is 32-bit and there is many complaints that's slow on 1GB of RAM. Also, how some games will eat up 2GB of RAM on 32-bit XP. Yet, 1GB is the sweet spot for 32-bit? The people have spoken: WE WANT PROOF!

Far as the whole 32-bit, 64-bit RAM debate, it ONLY matters when you go higher than 2GB. The max RAM 32-bit can support is 3GB, while 64-bit can go higher.

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Okay, I looked at that Oblivion test. I find it funny they ran it at only 1024X768 with a pair of 7900GTX's in SLI and with an FX-60! I for one say that's not really good proof.
a b U Graphics card
a b K Overclocking
April 3, 2007 1:47:36 AM

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Now see what you have done! You have unleased random


demanding proof cut's both ways :lol: 


Hey babybudha, I'm so sick of your crap I'm gonna come to your house and kill you!!!!!!



Get off that computer before I bite off your head!!!
a b U Graphics card
a b K Overclocking
April 3, 2007 1:51:02 AM

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I love when people speak with such conviction without having a real clue!

Like you and your "1gb is sweet spot" thing...

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PS. I'm still waiting for proof.

So am I...
a b U Graphics card
April 3, 2007 1:54:15 AM

Hey, randomizer, by the time he finds proof, scientist will find a way to make a pig fly!
April 3, 2007 1:55:46 AM

Yes, by all means feel free to use away, although finding one under the 80x80 pixel limit will be the hard part. :wink:
a b U Graphics card
a b K Overclocking
April 3, 2007 1:55:58 AM

Lol, a green pig too!
Did you like my shark stuck in the roof?
a b U Graphics card
a b K Overclocking
April 3, 2007 1:57:06 AM

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Yes, by all means feel free to use away, although finding one under the 80x80 pixel limit will be the hard part. :wink:

Get photoshop :D 
a b U Graphics card
April 3, 2007 2:02:07 AM

Or The GIMP.
April 3, 2007 2:02:24 AM

thanks ill see if i can compress it or something
April 3, 2007 2:06:30 AM

Doesnt photoshop cost a ton of money?
a b U Graphics card
April 3, 2007 2:09:05 AM

$700 retail. Hence me mentioning The GIMP which is free.
April 3, 2007 2:13:34 AM

test/bump

Awesome I just used the M words office and picture manager it fine for things like this.

Thanks for the avatar Everett

Now give me a fish or ill eat you
April 3, 2007 2:22:48 AM

never heard of that one thanks for the link.
a b U Graphics card
April 3, 2007 2:34:51 AM

Yeah, randomizer, gives a new meaning to flying fish!

Also, Everett, what link?
a b U Graphics card
a b K Overclocking
April 3, 2007 2:37:04 AM

Ive already eaten today, refer to about 13 posts back.

EDIT: Damn I missed it, oh well PARTY ON


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April 6, 2007 6:41:18 AM

It's very easy to know if the game you play need 2GB or not.

Simply bring on the Task Manager (Ctrl+Alt+Delete) and check the Commit Charge. It shows how much memory you're currently using. Don't close it and start playing. Check it back after a couple of hours. Open the Performance Tab and look for Peak Memory Usage.

If your Peak Memory Usage exceeds 1GB very often, then adding 2GB will benefit you. Otherwise, wait for the 8600 before upgrading.
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