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I want to load up a SD card with music for my Axim v50v and was
wondering which audio format gives you the best compression and the
best audio quality or are the two mutually excusive?
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<one@minusone.com> wrote in message
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>I want to load up a SD card with music for my Axim v50v and was
> wondering which audio format gives you the best compression and the
> best audio quality or are the two mutually excusive?
Probably wma- the variable bit rate. But how you listen makes a difference.
Find a track typical of those you listen to and convert it to the filetypes
you are considering. Listen by whatever method you will be using. Rate the
sound and decide which suits your needs- and ears.
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That's some great advice. Really. Better than the usual arguments about my
method and player are better than any of the others, that usually follow
that question. I agree with Alan and Bev about WMA and WMP, but there are a
lot of alternatives and I will grant that it makes a difference to some. To
add to the MS based solution argument, the capabilities of the WMP10 on the
desktop combined with Pocket Media Player 10 on the X50v, shouldn't be
discounted. It takes a little bit to get what you can do, but once you get
things set up, you can sync favorite music dynamically just like other
files. WMP10 on the desktop can keep tabs on what you are listening to,
update dynamic playlists, and automatically update the PPC files and
playlists accordingly. Kinda neat.
--
Sven
MVP - Mobile Devices
"Alan Smith" <alan@hidden.email> wrote in message
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> <one@minusone.com> wrote in message
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>>I want to load up a SD card with music for my Axim v50v and was
>> wondering which audio format gives you the best compression and the
>> best audio quality or are the two mutually excusive?
>
> Probably wma- the variable bit rate. But how you listen makes a
> difference. Find a track typical of those you listen to and convert it to
> the filetypes you are considering. Listen by whatever method you will be
> using. Rate the sound and decide which suits your needs- and ears.
>
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You may find the best combination can be achieved using Ogg format
compression, you'll need a separate player which can handle ogg audio.
Realistically though on a mobile device using earplugs, there's not a
lot in it regarding audio quality at similar bitrates - let's face it
the audio hardware on mobile devices is relatively limited in dynamic
range.
It's helpful to get a media player which has a graphic EQ to adjust
the playback to your preference, betaplayer has this facility which
can come in useful (it can also play MP4 video ;-)
Probably 32kbps is the lower end for compressed audio still to sound
like a realistic representation of music, though you can go much lower
(12-16kbps) for voice audio.
WMA has a voice optimised codec to let you do this, but you'll need
windows media encoder as the player doesn't offer this option for
encoding
HTH
Cheers - Neil
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:32:09 GMT, one@minusone.com wrote:
>I want to load up a SD card with music for my Axim v50v and was
>wondering which audio format gives you the best compression and the
>best audio quality or are the two mutually excusive?
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one@minusone.com wrote:
> I want to load up a SD card with music for my Axim v50v and was
> wondering which audio format gives you the best compression and the
> best audio quality or are the two mutually excusive?
There is a tradeoff between compression and quality, and depending on how
much compression you want, different formats will give better quality. For
very low bitrates (high compression), WMA performs better. However if you
want to get as close as possible to CD quality at medium bitrates (128bkit -
moderate compression), AAC is the best.
Betaplayer (betaplayer.corecodec.org) is the best all round media player for
PPC, and can play AAC tracks.
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Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev] wrote:
> WMA
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
For some reason if you wan't volume (e.g. you're going to use the Loud
speaker) I've found MP3 is louder. WMA is better quality for the file
size, but you have a huge disadvantage because WMA files don't play on
all devices.
everything you've ever heard before will
sound bad if you play it on something else.
--
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mp3,mp4,m4a,aac,ogg,flac,wav,play & record
parametric eq, xfeed, reverb; all on a mobile
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Thanks to all for the very good advice.
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:32:09 GMT, one@minusone.com wrote:
>I want to load up a SD card with music for my Axim v50v and was
>wondering which audio format gives you the best compression and the
>best audio quality or are the two mutually excusive?
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Personal preference : WMA with 64kbps
~ Small size (Avg 1.9Mb /song compared to 4Mb /song of MP3 format)
~ Lower volume but about the same quality with Mp3 format. (if you are using
headset then can't really find a different)
"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
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> >> but you have a huge disadvantage because WMA files don't play on all
> devices. <<
>
> especially CD/MP3 players... dawned on me after I had ripped all of our
> CD's to 3 gigs of wma's ;-/
>
> Still would go with wma's on ppc's... seems to be more seamless to me, but
> that might be expectations only.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
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"Hastan" <h.hastan@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Personal preference : WMA with 64kbps
personally, I drop mp3's down to around 64kpbs also. I haven't compared wma
to mp3 every, but mp3 is great for the crossplatform capability. I can visit
a friend with a mac and put my sdio/usb card reader in their machine and
still listen.
A "phd physicist" once told me the human ear can't differentiate quality
over a 16 kbps signal so I figured 32/stereo would do it (16 per side). It
sounds really f'ed (or squished) at 32. There ends up being far too much
clipping. I found 64 is a great trade off for size vs. quality.
> ~ Small size (Avg 1.9Mb /song compared to 4Mb /song of MP3 format)
> ~ Lower volume but about the same quality with Mp3 format. (if you are
> using headset then can't really find a different)
>
>
> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
> message news6Wuu%23oeFHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> >> but you have a huge disadvantage because WMA files don't play on all
>> devices. <<
>>
>> especially CD/MP3 players... dawned on me after I had ripped all of our
>> CD's to 3 gigs of wma's ;-/
>>
>> Still would go with wma's on ppc's... seems to be more seamless to me,
>> but that might be expectations only.
>>
>> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>
>
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