Satellite TV Reality Check
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I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up for
Dish network satellite service.
I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know how
to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an easy site
on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount the dish. They are
polite but obviously out of their depth.
Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: outside
of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a postion
of power).
I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other houses
in clear view, but to no avail.
They leave.
Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way and one
way only.
America 2004.
I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up for
Dish network satellite service.
I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know how
to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an easy site
on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount the dish. They are
polite but obviously out of their depth.
Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: outside
of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a postion
of power).
I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other houses
in clear view, but to no avail.
They leave.
Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way and one
way only.
America 2004.
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"bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up for
> Dish network satellite service.
> I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
> neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
> The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
> minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know how
> to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an easy
site
> on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount the dish. They
are
> polite but obviously out of their depth.
> Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference:
outside
> of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a
postion
> of power).
> I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other
houses
> in clear view, but to no avail.
> They leave.
> Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
> installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way and
one
> way only.
> America 2004.
And you got the service for how much? And you shopped around for companies
with experienced installers and technicians how much? In most markets there
are home theater specialists and dealers with experienced techs who know
what they are doing. Will you get the installation for free? Of course
not. Take some responsibility for your purchase and do some homework. If
you can't find anyone qualified to do it right, learn and do it yourself.
It is not that hard to do. OOPs, now that I read your political comments it
seems you may be one of those anti-Bush liberals that thinks someone else
should do the work for you...sorry, welcome to America, 1776-2004.
Not all of us pay our installers minimum wage. Some of us even make sure
that they are at the site on time. Heck some of us even send them to be
trained to do installations properly. We are probably the same people that
see that Rice and her boss work very hard and to do a virtually impossible
job and that the alternatives to them don't have any realistic or well
thought out solutions, only criticism.
Life is great in America 2004. We have unbelievable technologies available
for home entertainment at incredibly low prices. We also have better
service for those who wish to seek it out and pay for it.
Leonard
"bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:v12bd.12363$nj.4359@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up for
> Dish network satellite service.
> I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
> neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
> The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
> minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know how
> to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an easy
site
> on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount the dish. They
are
> polite but obviously out of their depth.
> Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference:
outside
> of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a
postion
> of power).
> I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other
houses
> in clear view, but to no avail.
> They leave.
> Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
> installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way and
one
> way only.
> America 2004.
And you got the service for how much? And you shopped around for companies
with experienced installers and technicians how much? In most markets there
are home theater specialists and dealers with experienced techs who know
what they are doing. Will you get the installation for free? Of course
not. Take some responsibility for your purchase and do some homework. If
you can't find anyone qualified to do it right, learn and do it yourself.
It is not that hard to do. OOPs, now that I read your political comments it
seems you may be one of those anti-Bush liberals that thinks someone else
should do the work for you...sorry, welcome to America, 1776-2004.
Not all of us pay our installers minimum wage. Some of us even make sure
that they are at the site on time. Heck some of us even send them to be
trained to do installations properly. We are probably the same people that
see that Rice and her boss work very hard and to do a virtually impossible
job and that the alternatives to them don't have any realistic or well
thought out solutions, only criticism.
Life is great in America 2004. We have unbelievable technologies available
for home entertainment at incredibly low prices. We also have better
service for those who wish to seek it out and pay for it.
Leonard
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"bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net> wrote in
news:v12bd.12363$nj.4359@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
> I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up
> for Dish network satellite service.
> I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
> neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
> The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
> minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know
> how to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an
> easy site on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount
> the dish. They are polite but obviously out of their depth.
> Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference:
> outside of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent
> in a postion of power).
> I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other
> houses in clear view, but to no avail.
> They leave.
> Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
> installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way
> and one way only.
> America 2004.
Yep. Welcome to the world of commercial hype. My own satellite tech is
a bit better, having come into the business through the rough and tumble
world of C-Band. Mounted my dish on the balcony (I'm an apartment
dweller these days) without actually attaching anything to the building.
--
Dave Oldridge+
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A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
"bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net> wrote in
news:v12bd.12363$nj.4359@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
> I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up
> for Dish network satellite service.
> I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
> neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
> The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
> minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know
> how to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an
> easy site on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount
> the dish. They are polite but obviously out of their depth.
> Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference:
> outside of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent
> in a postion of power).
> I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other
> houses in clear view, but to no avail.
> They leave.
> Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
> installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way
> and one way only.
> America 2004.
Yep. Welcome to the world of commercial hype. My own satellite tech is
a bit better, having come into the business through the rough and tumble
world of C-Band. Mounted my dish on the balcony (I'm an apartment
dweller these days) without actually attaching anything to the building.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
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Leonard Caillouet wrote:
> "bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:v12bd.12363$nj.4359@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up for
>>Dish network satellite service.
>>I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
>>neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
>>The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
>>minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know how
>>to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an easy
>
> site
>
>>on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount the dish. They
>
> are
>
>>polite but obviously out of their depth.
>>Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference:
>
> outside
>
>>of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a
>
> postion
>
>>of power).
>>I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other
>
> houses
>
>>in clear view, but to no avail.
>>They leave.
>>Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
>>installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way and
>
> one
>
>>way only.
>>America 2004.
>
>
> And you got the service for how much? And you shopped around for companies
> with experienced installers and technicians how much? In most markets there
> are home theater specialists and dealers with experienced techs who know
> what they are doing. Will you get the installation for free? Of course
> not. Take some responsibility for your purchase and do some homework. If
> you can't find anyone qualified to do it right, learn and do it yourself.
> It is not that hard to do. OOPs, now that I read your political comments it
> seems you may be one of those anti-Bush liberals that thinks someone else
> should do the work for you...sorry, welcome to America, 1776-2004.
>
> Not all of us pay our installers minimum wage. Some of us even make sure
> that they are at the site on time. Heck some of us even send them to be
> trained to do installations properly. We are probably the same people that
> see that Rice and her boss work very hard and to do a virtually impossible
> job and that the alternatives to them don't have any realistic or well
> thought out solutions, only criticism.
>
> Life is great in America 2004. We have unbelievable technologies available
> for home entertainment at incredibly low prices. We also have better
> service for those who wish to seek it out and pay for it.
>
> Leonard
>
>
Leonard, you are my new hero.
Leonard Caillouet wrote:
> "bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:v12bd.12363$nj.4359@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up for
>>Dish network satellite service.
>>I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
>>neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
>>The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
>>minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know how
>>to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an easy
>
> site
>
>>on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount the dish. They
>
> are
>
>>polite but obviously out of their depth.
>>Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference:
>
> outside
>
>>of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a
>
> postion
>
>>of power).
>>I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other
>
> houses
>
>>in clear view, but to no avail.
>>They leave.
>>Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
>>installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way and
>
> one
>
>>way only.
>>America 2004.
>
>
> And you got the service for how much? And you shopped around for companies
> with experienced installers and technicians how much? In most markets there
> are home theater specialists and dealers with experienced techs who know
> what they are doing. Will you get the installation for free? Of course
> not. Take some responsibility for your purchase and do some homework. If
> you can't find anyone qualified to do it right, learn and do it yourself.
> It is not that hard to do. OOPs, now that I read your political comments it
> seems you may be one of those anti-Bush liberals that thinks someone else
> should do the work for you...sorry, welcome to America, 1776-2004.
>
> Not all of us pay our installers minimum wage. Some of us even make sure
> that they are at the site on time. Heck some of us even send them to be
> trained to do installations properly. We are probably the same people that
> see that Rice and her boss work very hard and to do a virtually impossible
> job and that the alternatives to them don't have any realistic or well
> thought out solutions, only criticism.
>
> Life is great in America 2004. We have unbelievable technologies available
> for home entertainment at incredibly low prices. We also have better
> service for those who wish to seek it out and pay for it.
>
> Leonard
>
>
Leonard, you are my new hero.
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"Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com> wrote in message
news:CI7bd.863$HG3.574@lakeread04...
> It is not that hard to do. OOPs, now that I read your political comments
> it
> seems you may be one of those anti-Bush liberals that thinks someone else
> should do the work for you...sorry, welcome to America, 1776-2004.
>
=======================
BINGO!
"Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com> wrote in message
news:CI7bd.863$HG3.574@lakeread04...
> It is not that hard to do. OOPs, now that I read your political comments
> it
> seems you may be one of those anti-Bush liberals that thinks someone else
> should do the work for you...sorry, welcome to America, 1776-2004.
>
=======================
BINGO!
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Take responsibility for installing it yourself: if one needs an operation
tell the surgeon how to do it or shop until you find a surgeon who will do
the operation the way you want it, whether that is correct or not.
By the way, the emperor really has no clothes although he is doing a good
job trying to convince the gullible.
Take responsibility for installing it yourself: if one needs an operation
tell the surgeon how to do it or shop until you find a surgeon who will do
the operation the way you want it, whether that is correct or not.
By the way, the emperor really has no clothes although he is doing a good
job trying to convince the gullible.
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bmoag wrote:
> Take responsibility for installing it yourself: if one needs an operation
> tell the surgeon how to do it or shop until you find a surgeon who will do
> the operation the way you want it, whether that is correct or not.
>
No, the point is that most "trademen" aren't smart anymore. How many
master bricklayers do you know? Master woodworkers? Any more it's
just the same stupid people that continue to have jobs because the
people getting the equipment installed are dumber than they are.
Once you get an educated customer, look out.
He's not saying you *must* know everything about installing a
satellite dish. He's saying there are two options: 1) Find a
qualified technician to install it (which may cost money), or 2) Learn
how and do it yourself. He's not saying there is just option (2).
Your surgeon example would be correct if you added "shop until you
find a *qualified* surgeon", not one who will do it the way you want it.
bmoag wrote:
> Take responsibility for installing it yourself: if one needs an operation
> tell the surgeon how to do it or shop until you find a surgeon who will do
> the operation the way you want it, whether that is correct or not.
>
No, the point is that most "trademen" aren't smart anymore. How many
master bricklayers do you know? Master woodworkers? Any more it's
just the same stupid people that continue to have jobs because the
people getting the equipment installed are dumber than they are.
Once you get an educated customer, look out.
He's not saying you *must* know everything about installing a
satellite dish. He's saying there are two options: 1) Find a
qualified technician to install it (which may cost money), or 2) Learn
how and do it yourself. He's not saying there is just option (2).
Your surgeon example would be correct if you added "shop until you
find a *qualified* surgeon", not one who will do it the way you want it.
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"bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Take responsibility for installing it yourself: if one needs an operation
> tell the surgeon how to do it or shop until you find a surgeon who will do
> the operation the way you want it, whether that is correct or not.
>
> By the way, the emperor really has no clothes although he is doing a good
> job trying to convince the gullible.
Do you have a lucid point to make?
I damn sure do take responsibility for knowing exactly what a surgeon is
going to do, why, and what his level of experience happens to be. We always
check out doctors reputations before choosing them. Anyone who does
anything for me will get checked out before getting my business.
Leonard
"bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Take responsibility for installing it yourself: if one needs an operation
> tell the surgeon how to do it or shop until you find a surgeon who will do
> the operation the way you want it, whether that is correct or not.
>
> By the way, the emperor really has no clothes although he is doing a good
> job trying to convince the gullible.
Do you have a lucid point to make?
I damn sure do take responsibility for knowing exactly what a surgeon is
going to do, why, and what his level of experience happens to be. We always
check out doctors reputations before choosing them. Anyone who does
anything for me will get checked out before getting my business.
Leonard
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"bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> By the way, the emperor really has no clothes
================
No clothes is a GOOD thing!
Richard, the Nudist.
"bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> By the way, the emperor really has no clothes
================
No clothes is a GOOD thing!
Richard, the Nudist.
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:06:44 -0700, "Richard C."
<post-age@spamcop.net> wrote:
>"Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com> wrote in message
>news:CI7bd.863$HG3.574@lakeread04...
>
>> It is not that hard to do. OOPs, now that I read your political comments
>> it
>> seems you may be one of those anti-Bush liberals that thinks someone else
>> should do the work for you...sorry, welcome to America, 1776-2004.
>>
>=======================
>BINGO!
Idiot.
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:06:44 -0700, "Richard C."
<post-age@spamcop.net> wrote:
>"Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com> wrote in message
>news:CI7bd.863$HG3.574@lakeread04...
>
>> It is not that hard to do. OOPs, now that I read your political comments
>> it
>> seems you may be one of those anti-Bush liberals that thinks someone else
>> should do the work for you...sorry, welcome to America, 1776-2004.
>>
>=======================
>BINGO!
Idiot.
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:34:53 -0400, "Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com>
wrote:
>OOPs, now that I read your political comments it
>seems you may be one of those anti-Bush liberals that thinks someone else
>should do the work for you...sorry, welcome to America, 1776-2004.
Typical right-wing lies.
Whether they call it "free" or not, he IS paying for his installation,
and he DOES have a right to expect someone with at least a "plan B"
way to install it. Installers are supposed to be able to install, and
appointments are supposed to be kept. Only a stupid right-winger
would deny any of these facts.
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:34:53 -0400, "Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com>
wrote:
>OOPs, now that I read your political comments it
>seems you may be one of those anti-Bush liberals that thinks someone else
>should do the work for you...sorry, welcome to America, 1776-2004.
Typical right-wing lies.
Whether they call it "free" or not, he IS paying for his installation,
and he DOES have a right to expect someone with at least a "plan B"
way to install it. Installers are supposed to be able to install, and
appointments are supposed to be kept. Only a stupid right-winger
would deny any of these facts.
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, bmoag wrote:
> I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up for
> Dish network satellite service.
> I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
> neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
> The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
> minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know how
> to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an easy site
> on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount the dish. They are
> polite but obviously out of their depth.
> Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: outside
> of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a postion
> of power).
> I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other houses
> in clear view, but to no avail.
> They leave.
> Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
> installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way and one
> way only.
> America 2004.
....And, based on your apparent knowledge and relative intelligence over the
installers who appeared, why aren't you installing your dish YOURSELF?
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, bmoag wrote:
> I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up for
> Dish network satellite service.
> I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
> neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
> The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
> minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know how
> to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an easy site
> on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount the dish. They are
> polite but obviously out of their depth.
> Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: outside
> of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a postion
> of power).
> I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other houses
> in clear view, but to no avail.
> They leave.
> Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
> installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way and one
> way only.
> America 2004.
....And, based on your apparent knowledge and relative intelligence over the
installers who appeared, why aren't you installing your dish YOURSELF?
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> ...And, based on your apparent knowledge and relative intelligence over
> the installers who appeared, why aren't you installing your dish
> YOURSELF?
Why should he? Isn't it part of the deal he already paid for?
Chip
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> ...And, based on your apparent knowledge and relative intelligence over
> the installers who appeared, why aren't you installing your dish
> YOURSELF?
Why should he? Isn't it part of the deal he already paid for?
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:19:39 GMT, "bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net>
wrote:
>..
>Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: outside
>of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a postion
>of power).
>..
I recall she used to have an oil tanker named after her or something,
I think she was "on the board" of a big oil company that named their
ships after their directors.
Not surprising to see an oil company type in the Bush administration.
One does wonder what she did to get all the perks she's into.
Teaches at Stanford ? Must have been some class.
I only jump in here, as I saw some footage of her testifying to some
congressional/senate committee and wow, was she a turkey.
gobble gobble gobble...
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:19:39 GMT, "bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net>
wrote:
>..
>Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: outside
>of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a postion
>of power).
>..
I recall she used to have an oil tanker named after her or something,
I think she was "on the board" of a big oil company that named their
ships after their directors.
Not surprising to see an oil company type in the Bush administration.
One does wonder what she did to get all the perks she's into.
Teaches at Stanford ? Must have been some class.
I only jump in here, as I saw some footage of her testifying to some
congressional/senate committee and wow, was she a turkey.
gobble gobble gobble...
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:09:29 GMT, "D. Stussy"
<kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, bmoag wrote:
>> I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up for
>> Dish network satellite service.
>> I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
>> neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
>> The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
>> minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know how
>> to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an easy site
>> on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount the dish. They are
>> polite but obviously out of their depth.
>> Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: outside
>> of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a postion
>> of power).
>> I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other houses
>> in clear view, but to no avail.
>> They leave.
>> Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
>> installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way and one
>> way only.
>> America 2004.
>
>...And, based on your apparent knowledge and relative intelligence over the
>installers who appeared, why aren't you installing your dish YOURSELF?
Why the hell should he? I know how to change the oil in my car but I
have someone else do it.
Thumper
To reply drop XYZ in address
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:09:29 GMT, "D. Stussy"
<kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, bmoag wrote:
>> I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up for
>> Dish network satellite service.
>> I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
>> neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
>> The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
>> minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know how
>> to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an easy site
>> on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount the dish. They are
>> polite but obviously out of their depth.
>> Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: outside
>> of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a postion
>> of power).
>> I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other houses
>> in clear view, but to no avail.
>> They leave.
>> Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
>> installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way and one
>> way only.
>> America 2004.
>
>...And, based on your apparent knowledge and relative intelligence over the
>installers who appeared, why aren't you installing your dish YOURSELF?
Why the hell should he? I know how to change the oil in my car but I
have someone else do it.
Thumper
To reply drop XYZ in address
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"Thumper" <jaylsmithXYZ@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:binsm0t7q9k75noor80uveodeiqm7kc0jr@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:09:29 GMT, "D. Stussy"
> <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, bmoag wrote:
> >> I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up
for
> >> Dish network satellite service.
> >> I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
> >> neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
> >> The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
> >> minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know
how
> >> to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an easy
site
> >> on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount the dish.
They are
> >> polite but obviously out of their depth.
> >> Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference:
outside
> >> of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a
postion
> >> of power).
> >> I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other
houses
> >> in clear view, but to no avail.
> >> They leave.
> >> Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
> >> installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way
and one
> >> way only.
> >> America 2004.
> >
> >...And, based on your apparent knowledge and relative intelligence over
the
> >installers who appeared, why aren't you installing your dish YOURSELF?
>
> Why the hell should he? I know how to change the oil in my car but I
> have someone else do it.
> Thumper
> To reply drop XYZ in address
So do you just assume that any minimum wage Kwikee Khange monkey is going to
do it correctly? After experiences with both dealers and independents not
putting the correct amount of oil, using cheap filters, and not getting
valve adjustments even close, I do all of it myself or use a service center
that I found to have an excellent reputation for doing things right. The
point is, you can't assume that you are going to get good or effective
service in any area just by opening your checkbook. You have to shop for
service just like products.
Leonard
"Thumper" <jaylsmithXYZ@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:binsm0t7q9k75noor80uveodeiqm7kc0jr@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:09:29 GMT, "D. Stussy"
> <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, bmoag wrote:
> >> I finally took the plunge and bought a large screen HDTV and signed up
for
> >> Dish network satellite service.
> >> I would have used digital cable but this service area is relatively
> >> neanderthal with only one network HDTV outlet available.
> >> The installers show up 6 hours late. They look at the house for a few
> >> minutes and conclude they cannot mount the dish because they only know
how
> >> to secure the dish to fascia under the roof and they do not see an easy
site
> >> on this house. They admit they know no other way to mount the dish.
They are
> >> polite but obviously out of their depth.
> >> Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference:
outside
> >> of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a
postion
> >> of power).
> >> I point out the multiple satellite dishes mounted otherwise on other
houses
> >> in clear view, but to no avail.
> >> They leave.
> >> Digital satellite technology at the mercy of probably minimum wage
> >> installers who only know how to secure a screw and a bolt in one way
and one
> >> way only.
> >> America 2004.
> >
> >...And, based on your apparent knowledge and relative intelligence over
the
> >installers who appeared, why aren't you installing your dish YOURSELF?
>
> Why the hell should he? I know how to change the oil in my car but I
> have someone else do it.
> Thumper
> To reply drop XYZ in address
So do you just assume that any minimum wage Kwikee Khange monkey is going to
do it correctly? After experiences with both dealers and independents not
putting the correct amount of oil, using cheap filters, and not getting
valve adjustments even close, I do all of it myself or use a service center
that I found to have an excellent reputation for doing things right. The
point is, you can't assume that you are going to get good or effective
service in any area just by opening your checkbook. You have to shop for
service just like products.
Leonard
Archived from groups: alt.tv.tech.hdtv (More info?)
In article <CI7bd.863$HG3.574@lakeread04>, no@no.com says...
>
>
> And you got the service for how much? And you shopped around for companies
> with experienced installers and technicians how much? In most markets there
> are home theater specialists and dealers with experienced techs who know
> what they are doing. Will you get the installation for free? Of course
> not. Take some responsibility for your purchase and do some homework. If
> you can't find anyone qualified to do it right, learn and do it yourself.
> It is not that hard to do. OOPs, now that I read your political comments it
> seems you may be one of those anti-Bush liberals that thinks someone else
> should do the work for you...sorry, welcome to America, 1776-2004.
>
> Not all of us pay our installers minimum wage. Some of us even make sure
> that they are at the site on time. Heck some of us even send them to be
> trained to do installations properly. We are probably the same people that
> see that Rice and her boss work very hard and to do a virtually impossible
> job and that the alternatives to them don't have any realistic or well
> thought out solutions, only criticism.
>
> Life is great in America 2004. We have unbelievable technologies available
> for home entertainment at incredibly low prices. We also have better
> service for those who wish to seek it out and pay for it.
>
> Leonard
>
>
>
Well said.
Ditto.
--
Mark
The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception may be different.
Triple Z is spam control.
In article <CI7bd.863$HG3.574@lakeread04>, no@no.com says...
>
>
> And you got the service for how much? And you shopped around for companies
> with experienced installers and technicians how much? In most markets there
> are home theater specialists and dealers with experienced techs who know
> what they are doing. Will you get the installation for free? Of course
> not. Take some responsibility for your purchase and do some homework. If
> you can't find anyone qualified to do it right, learn and do it yourself.
> It is not that hard to do. OOPs, now that I read your political comments it
> seems you may be one of those anti-Bush liberals that thinks someone else
> should do the work for you...sorry, welcome to America, 1776-2004.
>
> Not all of us pay our installers minimum wage. Some of us even make sure
> that they are at the site on time. Heck some of us even send them to be
> trained to do installations properly. We are probably the same people that
> see that Rice and her boss work very hard and to do a virtually impossible
> job and that the alternatives to them don't have any realistic or well
> thought out solutions, only criticism.
>
> Life is great in America 2004. We have unbelievable technologies available
> for home entertainment at incredibly low prices. We also have better
> service for those who wish to seek it out and pay for it.
>
> Leonard
>
>
>
Well said.
Ditto.
--
Mark
The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception may be different.
Triple Z is spam control.
Archived from groups: alt.tv.tech.hdtv (More info?)
who_cares@more4u.com wrote in message news:<heism018vuhp2ckan3c24uofs394k2m6ni@4ax.com>...
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:19:39 GMT, "bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
>
> >..
> >Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: outside
> >of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a postion
> >of power).
> >..
>
> I recall she used to have an oil tanker named after her or something,
> I think she was "on the board" of a big oil company that named their
> ships after their directors.
>
> Not surprising to see an oil company type in the Bush administration.
>
> One does wonder what she did to get all the perks she's into.
>
> Teaches at Stanford ? Must have been some class.
>
> I only jump in here, as I saw some footage of her testifying to some
> congressional/senate committee and wow, was she a turkey.
>
> gobble gobble gobble...
One can only wonder what either you or Bmoag have in the way of either
education, intelligence or accomplishments in life that could begin to
compare with Condaleeza Rice. Here we have someone who is a
minority, grew up in modest circumstances, earned a PHD, became a
Stanford professor and went on to become one of the highest ranking
officials serving this country. Yet, guys who can't handle dealing
with a satellite dish installer find it necessary for some reason to
slam her. And what motives and mindset has one making these kinds of
remarks in an HDTV newsgroup?
who_cares@more4u.com wrote in message news:<heism018vuhp2ckan3c24uofs394k2m6ni@4ax.com>...
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:19:39 GMT, "bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
>
> >..
> >Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: outside
> >of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a postion
> >of power).
> >..
>
> I recall she used to have an oil tanker named after her or something,
> I think she was "on the board" of a big oil company that named their
> ships after their directors.
>
> Not surprising to see an oil company type in the Bush administration.
>
> One does wonder what she did to get all the perks she's into.
>
> Teaches at Stanford ? Must have been some class.
>
> I only jump in here, as I saw some footage of her testifying to some
> congressional/senate committee and wow, was she a turkey.
>
> gobble gobble gobble...
One can only wonder what either you or Bmoag have in the way of either
education, intelligence or accomplishments in life that could begin to
compare with Condaleeza Rice. Here we have someone who is a
minority, grew up in modest circumstances, earned a PHD, became a
Stanford professor and went on to become one of the highest ranking
officials serving this country. Yet, guys who can't handle dealing
with a satellite dish installer find it necessary for some reason to
slam her. And what motives and mindset has one making these kinds of
remarks in an HDTV newsgroup?
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On 16 Oct 2004 01:17:22 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
wrote:
>who_cares@more4u.com wrote in message news:<heism018vuhp2ckan3c24uofs394k2m6ni@4ax.com>...
>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:19:39 GMT, "bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >..
>> >Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: outside
>> >of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a postion
>> >of power).
>> >..
>>
>> I recall she used to have an oil tanker named after her or something,
>> I think she was "on the board" of a big oil company that named their
>> ships after their directors.
>>
>> Not surprising to see an oil company type in the Bush administration.
>>
>> One does wonder what she did to get all the perks she's into.
>>
>> Teaches at Stanford ? Must have been some class.
>>
>> I only jump in here, as I saw some footage of her testifying to some
>> congressional/senate committee and wow, was she a turkey.
>>
>> gobble gobble gobble...
>
>
>One can only wonder what either you or Bmoag have in the way of either
>education, intelligence or accomplishments in life that could begin to
>compare with Condaleeza Rice. Here we have someone who is a
>minority, grew up in modest circumstances, earned a PHD, became a
>Stanford professor and went on to become one of the highest ranking
>officials serving this country.
Not impressed with your simplistic awe of padded resumes.
That's apparently education, intelligence or accomplishments enough.
On 16 Oct 2004 01:17:22 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
wrote:
>who_cares@more4u.com wrote in message news:<heism018vuhp2ckan3c24uofs394k2m6ni@4ax.com>...
>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:19:39 GMT, "bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >..
>> >Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: outside
>> >of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a postion
>> >of power).
>> >..
>>
>> I recall she used to have an oil tanker named after her or something,
>> I think she was "on the board" of a big oil company that named their
>> ships after their directors.
>>
>> Not surprising to see an oil company type in the Bush administration.
>>
>> One does wonder what she did to get all the perks she's into.
>>
>> Teaches at Stanford ? Must have been some class.
>>
>> I only jump in here, as I saw some footage of her testifying to some
>> congressional/senate committee and wow, was she a turkey.
>>
>> gobble gobble gobble...
>
>
>One can only wonder what either you or Bmoag have in the way of either
>education, intelligence or accomplishments in life that could begin to
>compare with Condaleeza Rice. Here we have someone who is a
>minority, grew up in modest circumstances, earned a PHD, became a
>Stanford professor and went on to become one of the highest ranking
>officials serving this country.
Not impressed with your simplistic awe of padded resumes.
That's apparently education, intelligence or accomplishments enough.
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who_cares@more4v.com wrote in message news:<0ap3n05qqenvvp8bm8t6lifbf0lo2reqna@4ax.com>...
> On 16 Oct 2004 01:17:22 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
> wrote:
>
> >who_cares@more4v.com wrote in message news:<heism018vvhp2ckan3c24vofs394k2m6ni@4ax.com>...
> >> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:19:39 GMT, "bmoag" <apqvilts@pacbell.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >..
> >> >Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: ovtside
> >> >of her boss I have never seen someone so obviovsly incompetent in a postion
> >> >of power).
> >> >..
> >>
> >> I recall she vsed to have an oil tanker named after her or something,
> >> I think she was "on the board" of a big oil company that named their
> >> ships after their directors.
> >>
> >> Not svrprising to see an oil company type in the Bvsh administration.
> >>
> >> One does wonder what she did to get all the perks she's into.
> >>
> >> Teaches at Stanford ? Mvst have been some class.
> >>
> >> I only jvmp in here, as I saw some footage of her testifying to some
> >> congressional/senate committee and wow, was she a tvrkey.
> >>
> >> gobble gobble gobble...
> >
> >
> >One can only wonder what either yov or Bmoag have in the way of either
> >edvcation, intelligence or accomplishments in life that covld begin to
> >compare with Condaleeza Rice. Here we have someone who is a
> >minority, grew vp in modest circvmstances, earned a PHD, became a
> >Stanford professor and went on to become one of the highest ranking
> >officials serving this covntry.
>
>
> Not impressed with yovr simplistic awe of padded resvmes.
>
> That's apparently edvcation, intelligence or accomplishments enovgh.
Here's Condoleeza Rice's biography, edvcational backgrovnd and life's
accomplishments. We're still waiting for yovrs......
Dr. Condoleezza Rice became the Assistant to the President for
National Secvrity Affairs, commonly referred to as the National
Secvrity Advisor, on Janvary 22, 2001.
In Jvne 1999, she completed a six year tenvre as Stanford University's
Provost, dvring which she was the institvtion's chief bvdget and
academic officer. As Provost she was responsible for a $1.5 billion
annval bvdget and the academic program involving 1,400 facvlty members
and 14,000 stvdents.
As professor of political science, Dr. Rice has been on the Stanford
facvlty since 1981 and has won two of the highest teaching honors --
the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993
School of Hvmanities and Sciences Dean's Award for Distingvished
Teaching.
At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International
Secvrity and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institvte for
International Stvdies, and a Fellow (by covrtesy) of the Hoover
Institvtion. Her books inclvde Germany Unified and Evrope Transformed
(1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander
Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the
Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written nvmerovs articles on
Soviet and East Evropean foreign and defense policy, and has addressed
avdiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in
Moscow to the Commonwealth Clvb to the 1992 and 2000 Repvblican
National Conventions.
From 1989 throvgh March 1991, the period of German revnification and
the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bvsh
Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and
East Evropean Affairs in the National Secvrity Covncil, and a Special
Assistant to the President for National Secvrity Affairs. In 1986,
while an international affairs fellow of the Covncil on Foreign
Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory
Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military.
She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron
Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora
Hewlett Fovndation, the University of Notre Dame, the International
Advisory Covncil of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board
of Governors. She was a Fovnding Board member of the Center for a New
Generation, an edvcational svpport fvnd for schools in East Palo Alto
and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and
Girls Clvb of the Peninsvla. In addition, her past board service has
encompassed svch organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett
Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for
International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Covncil for
Soviet and East Evropean Stvdies, the Mid-Peninsvla Urban Coalition
and KQED, pvblic broadcasting for San Francisco.
Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her
bachelor's degree in political science, cvm lavde and Phi Beta Kappa,
from the University of Denver in 1974; her master's from the
University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Gradvate
School of International Stvdies at the University of Denver in 1981.
She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has
been awarded honorary doctorates from Morehovse College in 1991, the
University of Alabama in 1994, the University of Notre Dame in 1995,
the Mississippi College School of Law in 2003, the University of
Lovisville and Michigan State University in 2004. She resides in
Washington, D.C.
May 2004
who_cares@more4v.com wrote in message news:<0ap3n05qqenvvp8bm8t6lifbf0lo2reqna@4ax.com>...
> On 16 Oct 2004 01:17:22 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
> wrote:
>
> >who_cares@more4v.com wrote in message news:<heism018vvhp2ckan3c24vofs394k2m6ni@4ax.com>...
> >> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:19:39 GMT, "bmoag" <apqvilts@pacbell.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >..
> >> >Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference: ovtside
> >> >of her boss I have never seen someone so obviovsly incompetent in a postion
> >> >of power).
> >> >..
> >>
> >> I recall she vsed to have an oil tanker named after her or something,
> >> I think she was "on the board" of a big oil company that named their
> >> ships after their directors.
> >>
> >> Not svrprising to see an oil company type in the Bvsh administration.
> >>
> >> One does wonder what she did to get all the perks she's into.
> >>
> >> Teaches at Stanford ? Mvst have been some class.
> >>
> >> I only jvmp in here, as I saw some footage of her testifying to some
> >> congressional/senate committee and wow, was she a tvrkey.
> >>
> >> gobble gobble gobble...
> >
> >
> >One can only wonder what either yov or Bmoag have in the way of either
> >edvcation, intelligence or accomplishments in life that covld begin to
> >compare with Condaleeza Rice. Here we have someone who is a
> >minority, grew vp in modest circvmstances, earned a PHD, became a
> >Stanford professor and went on to become one of the highest ranking
> >officials serving this covntry.
>
>
> Not impressed with yovr simplistic awe of padded resvmes.
>
> That's apparently edvcation, intelligence or accomplishments enovgh.
Here's Condoleeza Rice's biography, edvcational backgrovnd and life's
accomplishments. We're still waiting for yovrs......
Dr. Condoleezza Rice became the Assistant to the President for
National Secvrity Affairs, commonly referred to as the National
Secvrity Advisor, on Janvary 22, 2001.
In Jvne 1999, she completed a six year tenvre as Stanford University's
Provost, dvring which she was the institvtion's chief bvdget and
academic officer. As Provost she was responsible for a $1.5 billion
annval bvdget and the academic program involving 1,400 facvlty members
and 14,000 stvdents.
As professor of political science, Dr. Rice has been on the Stanford
facvlty since 1981 and has won two of the highest teaching honors --
the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993
School of Hvmanities and Sciences Dean's Award for Distingvished
Teaching.
At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International
Secvrity and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institvte for
International Stvdies, and a Fellow (by covrtesy) of the Hoover
Institvtion. Her books inclvde Germany Unified and Evrope Transformed
(1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander
Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the
Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written nvmerovs articles on
Soviet and East Evropean foreign and defense policy, and has addressed
avdiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in
Moscow to the Commonwealth Clvb to the 1992 and 2000 Repvblican
National Conventions.
From 1989 throvgh March 1991, the period of German revnification and
the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bvsh
Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and
East Evropean Affairs in the National Secvrity Covncil, and a Special
Assistant to the President for National Secvrity Affairs. In 1986,
while an international affairs fellow of the Covncil on Foreign
Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory
Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military.
She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron
Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora
Hewlett Fovndation, the University of Notre Dame, the International
Advisory Covncil of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board
of Governors. She was a Fovnding Board member of the Center for a New
Generation, an edvcational svpport fvnd for schools in East Palo Alto
and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and
Girls Clvb of the Peninsvla. In addition, her past board service has
encompassed svch organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett
Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for
International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Covncil for
Soviet and East Evropean Stvdies, the Mid-Peninsvla Urban Coalition
and KQED, pvblic broadcasting for San Francisco.
Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her
bachelor's degree in political science, cvm lavde and Phi Beta Kappa,
from the University of Denver in 1974; her master's from the
University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Gradvate
School of International Stvdies at the University of Denver in 1981.
She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has
been awarded honorary doctorates from Morehovse College in 1991, the
University of Alabama in 1994, the University of Notre Dame in 1995,
the Mississippi College School of Law in 2003, the University of
Lovisville and Michigan State University in 2004. She resides in
Washington, D.C.
May 2004
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<who_cares@more4u.com> wrote in message
news:0ap3n05qqenuvp8bm8t6lifbf0lo2reqna@4ax.com...
> On 16 Oct 2004 01:17:22 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
> wrote:
>
> >who_cares@more4u.com wrote in message
news:<heism018vuhp2ckan3c24uofs394k2m6ni@4ax.com>...
> >> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:19:39 GMT, "bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >..
> >> >Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference:
outside
> >> >of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a
postion
> >> >of power).
> >> >..
> >>
> >> I recall she used to have an oil tanker named after her or something,
> >> I think she was "on the board" of a big oil company that named their
> >> ships after their directors.
> >>
> >> Not surprising to see an oil company type in the Bush administration.
> >>
> >> One does wonder what she did to get all the perks she's into.
> >>
> >> Teaches at Stanford ? Must have been some class.
> >>
> >> I only jump in here, as I saw some footage of her testifying to some
> >> congressional/senate committee and wow, was she a turkey.
> >>
> >> gobble gobble gobble...
> >
> >
> >One can only wonder what either you or Bmoag have in the way of either
> >education, intelligence or accomplishments in life that could begin to
> >compare with Condaleeza Rice. Here we have someone who is a
> >minority, grew up in modest circumstances, earned a PHD, became a
> >Stanford professor and went on to become one of the highest ranking
> >officials serving this country.
>
>
> Not impressed with your simplistic awe of padded resumes.
>
> That's apparently education, intelligence or accomplishments enough.
....and your contribution to this forum is what?
Leonard
<who_cares@more4u.com> wrote in message
news:0ap3n05qqenuvp8bm8t6lifbf0lo2reqna@4ax.com...
> On 16 Oct 2004 01:17:22 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
> wrote:
>
> >who_cares@more4u.com wrote in message
news:<heism018vuhp2ckan3c24uofs394k2m6ni@4ax.com>...
> >> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:19:39 GMT, "bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >..
> >> >Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference:
outside
> >> >of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a
postion
> >> >of power).
> >> >..
> >>
> >> I recall she used to have an oil tanker named after her or something,
> >> I think she was "on the board" of a big oil company that named their
> >> ships after their directors.
> >>
> >> Not surprising to see an oil company type in the Bush administration.
> >>
> >> One does wonder what she did to get all the perks she's into.
> >>
> >> Teaches at Stanford ? Must have been some class.
> >>
> >> I only jump in here, as I saw some footage of her testifying to some
> >> congressional/senate committee and wow, was she a turkey.
> >>
> >> gobble gobble gobble...
> >
> >
> >One can only wonder what either you or Bmoag have in the way of either
> >education, intelligence or accomplishments in life that could begin to
> >compare with Condaleeza Rice. Here we have someone who is a
> >minority, grew up in modest circumstances, earned a PHD, became a
> >Stanford professor and went on to become one of the highest ranking
> >officials serving this country.
>
>
> Not impressed with your simplistic awe of padded resumes.
>
> That's apparently education, intelligence or accomplishments enough.
....and your contribution to this forum is what?
Leonard
Archived from groups: alt.tv.tech.hdtv (More info?)
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:48:26 -0400, "Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com>
wrote:
>
><who_cares@more4u.com> wrote in message
>news:0ap3n05qqenuvp8bm8t6lifbf0lo2reqna@4ax.com...
>> On 16 Oct 2004 01:17:22 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >who_cares@more4u.com wrote in message
>news:<heism018vuhp2ckan3c24uofs394k2m6ni@4ax.com>...
>> >> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:19:39 GMT, "bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >..
>> >> >Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference:
>outside
>> >> >of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a
>postion
>> >> >of power).
>> >> >..
>> >>
>> >> I recall she used to have an oil tanker named after her or something,
>> >> I think she was "on the board" of a big oil company that named their
>> >> ships after their directors.
>> >>
>> >> Not surprising to see an oil company type in the Bush administration.
>> >>
>> >> One does wonder what she did to get all the perks she's into.
>> >>
>> >> Teaches at Stanford ? Must have been some class.
>> >>
>> >> I only jump in here, as I saw some footage of her testifying to some
>> >> congressional/senate committee and wow, was she a turkey.
>> >>
>> >> gobble gobble gobble...
>> >
>> >
>> >One can only wonder what either you or Bmoag have in the way of either
>> >education, intelligence or accomplishments in life that could begin to
>> >compare with Condaleeza Rice. Here we have someone who is a
>> >minority, grew up in modest circumstances, earned a PHD, became a
>> >Stanford professor and went on to become one of the highest ranking
>> >officials serving this country.
>>
>>
>> Not impressed with your simplistic awe of padded resumes.
>>
>> That's apparently education, intelligence or accomplishments enough.
>
>...and your contribution to this forum is what?
>
>Leonard
>
Well... obviously you needed someone to pop your bubble about a simple
cold war republican intellectual lackey with no upside on the current
situation in the middle east.
But aside from that, what's your point ?
Can't stand an opposite opinion ?
yeah, you guys are a dime a dozen.
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:48:26 -0400, "Leonard Caillouet" <no@no.com>
wrote:
>
><who_cares@more4u.com> wrote in message
>news:0ap3n05qqenuvp8bm8t6lifbf0lo2reqna@4ax.com...
>> On 16 Oct 2004 01:17:22 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >who_cares@more4u.com wrote in message
>news:<heism018vuhp2ckan3c24uofs394k2m6ni@4ax.com>...
>> >> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:19:39 GMT, "bmoag" <apquilts@pacbell.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >..
>> >> >Sort of like Condaleeza Rice (I can't help the political reference:
>outside
>> >> >of her boss I have never seen someone so obviously incompetent in a
>postion
>> >> >of power).
>> >> >..
>> >>
>> >> I recall she used to have an oil tanker named after her or something,
>> >> I think she was "on the board" of a big oil company that named their
>> >> ships after their directors.
>> >>
>> >> Not surprising to see an oil company type in the Bush administration.
>> >>
>> >> One does wonder what she did to get all the perks she's into.
>> >>
>> >> Teaches at Stanford ? Must have been some class.
>> >>
>> >> I only jump in here, as I saw some footage of her testifying to some
>> >> congressional/senate committee and wow, was she a turkey.
>> >>
>> >> gobble gobble gobble...
>> >
>> >
>> >One can only wonder what either you or Bmoag have in the way of either
>> >education, intelligence or accomplishments in life that could begin to
>> >compare with Condaleeza Rice. Here we have someone who is a
>> >minority, grew up in modest circumstances, earned a PHD, became a
>> >Stanford professor and went on to become one of the highest ranking
>> >officials serving this country.
>>
>>
>> Not impressed with your simplistic awe of padded resumes.
>>
>> That's apparently education, intelligence or accomplishments enough.
>
>...and your contribution to this forum is what?
>
>Leonard
>
Well... obviously you needed someone to pop your bubble about a simple
cold war republican intellectual lackey with no upside on the current
situation in the middle east.
But aside from that, what's your point ?
Can't stand an opposite opinion ?
yeah, you guys are a dime a dozen.
Archived from groups: alt.tv.tech.hdtv (More info?)
On 17 Oct 2004 08:03:13 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
wrote:
>Here's Condoleeza Rice's biography, educational background and life's
>accomplishments. We're still waiting for yours......
>...
I'm just here to brighten up your miserable life, puppy dog.
Isn't that enough ?
PS Her bio really doesn't impress me. Intellectuals who publish what
the republicans want to hear will always do nicely in this world.
If you're impressed, that's your problem.
On 17 Oct 2004 08:03:13 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
wrote:
>Here's Condoleeza Rice's biography, educational background and life's
>accomplishments. We're still waiting for yours......
>...
I'm just here to brighten up your miserable life, puppy dog.
Isn't that enough ?
PS Her bio really doesn't impress me. Intellectuals who publish what
the republicans want to hear will always do nicely in this world.
If you're impressed, that's your problem.
Archived from groups: alt.tv.tech.hdtv (More info?)
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net wrote:
> > ...And, based on your apparent knowledge and relative intelligence over
> > the installers who appeared, why aren't you installing your dish
> > YOURSELF?
>
> Why should he? Isn't it part of the deal he already paid for?
Because they're too stupid to actually follow through while he can. If he
wants the job done correctly, he may have to do it himself.
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 cjdaytonjrnospam@cox.net wrote:
> > ...And, based on your apparent knowledge and relative intelligence over
> > the installers who appeared, why aren't you installing your dish
> > YOURSELF?
>
> Why should he? Isn't it part of the deal he already paid for?
Because they're too stupid to actually follow through while he can. If he
wants the job done correctly, he may have to do it himself.
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who_cares@more4u.com wrote in message news:<q0c6n01s9hvqpufpvqc6e10jtp7iv0ntnm@4ax.com>...
> On 17 Oct 2004 08:03:13 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
> wrote:
>
>
> >Here's Condoleeza Rice's biography, educational background and life's
> >accomplishments. We're still waiting for yours......
> >...
>
>
> I'm just here to brighten up your miserable life, puppy dog.
>
> Isn't that enough ?
>
>
> PS Her bio really doesn't impress me. Intellectuals who publish what
> the republicans want to hear will always do nicely in this world.
>
> If you're impressed, that's your problem.
Yes, and of course university environments, where Rice spent much of
her career and steadily advanced to become Provost, are well known for
being bastions of Republican support, right? As I recall, Stanford
was under consideration for being the site for the Reagan Presidential
Library, but was rejected due to objections. The fact that you think
universities are typical places where Republican conservatives rule,
leads me to believe you didn't spend any time at any of them yourself.
That, plus the fact that instead of any rational discourse based on
facts, all your capable of are insults and one line smart answers are
clues to your bio.
who_cares@more4u.com wrote in message news:<q0c6n01s9hvqpufpvqc6e10jtp7iv0ntnm@4ax.com>...
> On 17 Oct 2004 08:03:13 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
> wrote:
>
>
> >Here's Condoleeza Rice's biography, educational background and life's
> >accomplishments. We're still waiting for yours......
> >...
>
>
> I'm just here to brighten up your miserable life, puppy dog.
>
> Isn't that enough ?
>
>
> PS Her bio really doesn't impress me. Intellectuals who publish what
> the republicans want to hear will always do nicely in this world.
>
> If you're impressed, that's your problem.
Yes, and of course university environments, where Rice spent much of
her career and steadily advanced to become Provost, are well known for
being bastions of Republican support, right? As I recall, Stanford
was under consideration for being the site for the Reagan Presidential
Library, but was rejected due to objections. The fact that you think
universities are typical places where Republican conservatives rule,
leads me to believe you didn't spend any time at any of them yourself.
That, plus the fact that instead of any rational discourse based on
facts, all your capable of are insults and one line smart answers are
clues to your bio.
Archived from groups: alt.tv.tech.hdtv (More info?)
On 18 Oct 2004 05:27:01 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
wrote:
>who_cares@more4u.com wrote in message news:<q0c6n01s9hvqpufpvqc6e10jtp7iv0ntnm@4ax.com>...
>> On 17 Oct 2004 08:03:13 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >Here's Condoleeza Rice's biography, educational background and life's
>> >accomplishments. We're still waiting for yours......
>> >...
>>
>>
>> I'm just here to brighten up your miserable life, puppy dog.
>>
>> Isn't that enough ?
>>
>>
>> PS Her bio really doesn't impress me. Intellectuals who publish what
>> the republicans want to hear will always do nicely in this world.
>>
>> If you're impressed, that's your problem.
>
>Yes, and of course university environments, where Rice spent much of
>her career and steadily advanced to become Provost, are well known for
>being bastions of Republican support, right? As I recall, Stanford
>was under consideration for being the site for the Reagan Presidential
>Library, but was rejected due to objections. The fact that you think
>universities are typical places where Republican conservatives rule,
>leads me to believe you didn't spend any time at any of them yourself.
> That, plus the fact that instead of any rational discourse based on
>facts, all your capable of are insults and one line smart answers are
>clues to your bio.
Obviously you have LOTS of problems, Chet. First you seem to want to
beat this dead horse of an issue forever. Second, you don't know much
about Stanford. Try getting in and paying the tuition.
Goodbye now, Chet, go play with the other incessant debaters.
On 18 Oct 2004 05:27:01 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
wrote:
>who_cares@more4u.com wrote in message news:<q0c6n01s9hvqpufpvqc6e10jtp7iv0ntnm@4ax.com>...
>> On 17 Oct 2004 08:03:13 -0700, trader4@optonline.net (Chet Hayes)
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >Here's Condoleeza Rice's biography, educational background and life's
>> >accomplishments. We're still waiting for yours......
>> >...
>>
>>
>> I'm just here to brighten up your miserable life, puppy dog.
>>
>> Isn't that enough ?
>>
>>
>> PS Her bio really doesn't impress me. Intellectuals who publish what
>> the republicans want to hear will always do nicely in this world.
>>
>> If you're impressed, that's your problem.
>
>Yes, and of course university environments, where Rice spent much of
>her career and steadily advanced to become Provost, are well known for
>being bastions of Republican support, right? As I recall, Stanford
>was under consideration for being the site for the Reagan Presidential
>Library, but was rejected due to objections. The fact that you think
>universities are typical places where Republican conservatives rule,
>leads me to believe you didn't spend any time at any of them yourself.
> That, plus the fact that instead of any rational discourse based on
>facts, all your capable of are insults and one line smart answers are
>clues to your bio.
Obviously you have LOTS of problems, Chet. First you seem to want to
beat this dead horse of an issue forever. Second, you don't know much
about Stanford. Try getting in and paying the tuition.
Goodbye now, Chet, go play with the other incessant debaters.
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