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March 30, 2007 5:30:51 AM

I've been reading Toms for a while now about a year and a half and it just seems to me like they bend their benchmarks, articles and conclusions in favor of one side or the other constantly without giving fairness . I just wanted to know what are other good trusted sites for pc tech, gaming news or any pc related news. thanks a lot

ps sorry if this is in the wrong section of the forums

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March 30, 2007 5:40:50 AM

yes, check it out :twisted:

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March 30, 2007 6:29:38 AM

well i dont really roll like that, but its cool if you do :roll:
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March 30, 2007 6:30:13 AM

lol
March 30, 2007 6:36:11 AM

it would be kind of funnier if you posted your lame ass complaint in the "other" section, no offense though.
March 30, 2007 6:37:26 AM

Hahahahaha. I didn't click on it, I don't need to see gay trumpets

Edit: I'm sure he took no offense :lol: 
March 30, 2007 6:38:19 AM

neither did i, and you know why we both didn't? cause we love thg :lol: 
March 30, 2007 6:46:47 AM

THG is always biased in favor of Intel, no wait AMD, no.. wait, Intel. It's always one of them I just don't know which one. [/sarcasm] :roll:
March 30, 2007 6:48:22 AM

Well this is an awkward moment, fortunately, I’m so self centered this isn't going to bother me.
March 30, 2007 6:49:41 AM

haha no offense taken at all, i love THG too, but I just want to know other good sites, so any links guys? (no gay porn this time :lol:  )
March 30, 2007 6:50:39 AM

try google
March 30, 2007 7:19:43 AM

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Well this is an awkward moment, fortunately, I’m so self centered this isn't going to bother me.

You do know I was being sarcastic.
March 30, 2007 10:35:35 AM

Title: "Is THG Bias?"
Try: "Is THG Biased?"

Ahhh, the wonders of English. Everyone knows THG is VIA biased.
March 30, 2007 10:38:38 AM

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Title: "Is THG Bias?"
Try: "Is THG Biased?"

Ahhh, the wonders of English. Everyone knows THG is VIA biased.


I have extensively catalogued every THG article since inception, conducted a semantic correlation analysis and discovered that they are actually biased 78.3% to Cyrix. :twisted:
March 30, 2007 10:56:43 AM

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Title: "Is THG Bias?"
Try: "Is THG Biased?"

Ahhh, the wonders of English. Everyone knows THG is VIA biased.


I have extensively catalogued every THG article since inception, conducted a semantic correlation analysis and discovered that they are actually biased 78.3% to Cyrix. :twisted:
*Gags at the mention of VIA or Cyrix*
March 30, 2007 11:01:06 AM

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*Gags at the mention of VIA or Cyrix*


Just think! If computer history had been a bit different, today we might have a VIA DX10-capable blitter chipset with a quadcore Cyrix running inside the Amiga 9500! :lol: 
March 30, 2007 11:03:28 AM

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*Gags at the mention of VIA or Cyrix*


Just think! If computer history had been a bit different, today we might have a VIA DX10-capable blitter chipset with a quadcore Cyrix running inside the Amiga 9500! :lol: 
*Faints*
March 30, 2007 11:12:07 AM

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I've been reading Toms for a while now about a year and a half and it just seems to me like they bend their benchmarks, articles and conclusions in favor of one side or the other constantly without giving fairness . I just wanted to know what are other good trusted sites for pc tech, gaming news or any pc related news. thanks a lot

ps sorry if this is in the wrong section of the forums

you should have made a poll for this.
March 31, 2007 2:49:06 AM

I'm not sure if i should put this thread back on topic lol, but i'm gonna anyway. :wink:

It seems to me they are biased kinda, towards the side with the top performer overall. Now that doesn't mean the otherside has nothing worthwhile, but thats the way they tend to treat it.

They did it when AMD was better and now that Intel is better. However, if i had to pick a side they were more partial to, i'd say intel, due to the names of articles promoting good news for AMD and good news for Intel. The Intel news is often touted, while the AMD news is a humble news item.
March 31, 2007 3:05:17 AM

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Title: "Is THG Bias?"
Try: "Is THG Biased?"

Ahhh, the wonders of English. Everyone knows THG is VIA biased.


I have extensively catalogued every THG article since inception, conducted a semantic correlation analysis and discovered that they are actually biased 78.3% to Cyrix. :twisted:
*Gags at the mention of VIA or Cyrix*

Hey, Ninja look, Baron is voting for you!!
March 31, 2007 3:06:09 AM

lol
March 31, 2007 3:19:23 AM

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I've been reading Toms for a while now about a year and a half and it just seems to me like they bend their benchmarks, articles and conclusions in favor of one side or the other constantly without giving fairness . I just wanted to know what are other good trusted sites for pc tech, gaming news or any pc related news. thanks a lot

ps sorry if this is in the wrong section of the forums


Oh please god, not another one of these threads

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?nam...
March 31, 2007 3:20:40 AM

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*Gags at the mention of VIA or Cyrix*


Just think! If computer history had been a bit different, today we might have a VIA DX10-capable blitter chipset with a quadcore Cyrix running inside the Amiga 9500! :lol: 
*Faints*

*secretely steals ninja's wallets*

SAN-ANDREAS-NIG**-STEALINGPOWER-NO-JUTSU!!
March 31, 2007 3:49:18 AM

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Well this is an awkward moment, fortunately, I’m so self centered this isn't going to bother me.


LOL true you are :lol: 
March 31, 2007 3:51:48 AM

anyways, in a serious response i believe THG shares quite honest views of things, though no one can be 100% unbiased so there is always that whiff of bending something a certain way etc.. though when companies send in products to THG, i believe THG bends benchmarks etc or puts in a good word at the end of their article to show that the product is quite good.. instead of the readers coming up with their own conclusion and surmising that the product was a piece of shit..
March 31, 2007 3:53:04 AM

TH is more biased then the Inq! :p 
March 31, 2007 3:54:48 AM

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TH is more biased then the Inq! :p 


March 31, 2007 3:59:23 AM

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TH is more biased then the Inq! :p 




dammit assman you promised never to post that pic of you and me 8O
March 31, 2007 4:14:40 AM

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TH is more biased then the Inq! :p 




ROFLMAO :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
March 31, 2007 4:29:32 AM

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*secretely steals ninja's wallets*


Hope you brought along a wheelbarrow. :lol: 

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SAN-ANDREAS-NIG**-STEALINGPOWER-NO-JUTSU!!


Now that one, I missed altogether! :oops: 
March 31, 2007 7:16:46 AM

YES THEY ARE BIAS, DO THEY CARE NO.. THEY ARE A MARKETING MACHINE

In video cards ATI usually holds a much higher LOW FPS (point where games look like hammer'd dog poo) so THG publishes MAX FPS which means nothing above 60.

In CPUs AMD is a largely low latency, high complexity FPU (plays games with higher LOW FPS and does complex ops best) so THG publishes MAX FPS and RARing times that, once again largely useless, spotlighting the Intel CPU's ability to do simple, heavily cached ops with higher latency. Which in my guess occur 50% in an office environment and about 20% in a home/geek environment.
March 31, 2007 7:28:15 AM

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YES THEY ARE BIAS, DO THEY CARE NO.. THEY ARE A MARKETING MACHINE

In video cards ATI usually holds a much higher LOW FPS (point where games look like hammer'd dog poo) so THG publishes MAX FPS which means nothing above 60.

In CPUs AMD is a largely low latency, high complexity FPU (plays games with higher LOW FPS and does complex ops best) so THG publishes MAX FPS and RARing times that, once again largely useless, spotlighting the Intel CPU's ability to do simple, heavily cached ops with higher latency. Which in my guess occur 50% in an office environment and about 20% in a home/geek environment.
MMM??
March 31, 2007 9:04:54 AM

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YES THEY ARE BIAS, DO THEY CARE NO.. THEY ARE A MARKETING MACHINE

In video cards ATI usually holds a much higher LOW FPS (point where games look like hammer'd dog poo) so THG publishes MAX FPS which means nothing above 60.

In CPUs AMD is a largely low latency, high complexity FPU (plays games with higher LOW FPS and does complex ops best) so THG publishes MAX FPS and RARing times that, once again largely useless, spotlighting the Intel CPU's ability to do simple, heavily cached ops with higher latency. Which in my guess occur 50% in an office environment and about 20% in a home/geek environment.
MMM??

MMM? Giving me alot to go on .. guess that's how you got 3500 posts
March 31, 2007 12:18:49 PM

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YES THEY ARE BIAS, DO THEY CARE NO.. THEY ARE A MARKETING MACHINE

In video cards ATI usually holds a much higher LOW FPS (point where games look like hammer'd dog poo) so THG publishes MAX FPS which means nothing above 60.

In CPUs AMD is a largely low latency, high complexity FPU (plays games with higher LOW FPS and does complex ops best) so THG publishes MAX FPS and RARing times that, once again largely useless, spotlighting the Intel CPU's ability to do simple, heavily cached ops with higher latency. Which in my guess occur 50% in an office environment and about 20% in a home/geek environment.
MMM??

MMM? Giving me alot to go on .. guess that's how you got 3500 posts

Don't pick on Tanker, I love that little doogie!
March 31, 2007 12:53:25 PM

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YES THEY ARE BIAS, DO THEY CARE NO.. THEY ARE A MARKETING MACHINE

In video cards ATI usually holds a much higher LOW FPS (point where games look like hammer'd dog poo) so THG publishes MAX FPS which means nothing above 60.

In CPUs AMD is a largely low latency, high complexity FPU (plays games with higher LOW FPS and does complex ops best) so THG publishes MAX FPS and RARing times that, once again largely useless, spotlighting the Intel CPU's ability to do simple, heavily cached ops with higher latency. Which in my guess occur 50% in an office environment and about 20% in a home/geek environment.
MMM??

:lol: 
March 31, 2007 12:57:21 PM

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YES THEY ARE BIAS, DO THEY CARE NO.. THEY ARE A MARKETING MACHINE


What exactly is a bias and what does one look like? What does one have to do to become a bias? Does one have to apply?
March 31, 2007 1:55:51 PM

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YES THEY ARE BIAS, DO THEY CARE NO.. THEY ARE A MARKETING MACHINE

In video cards ATI usually holds a much higher LOW FPS (point where games look like hammer'd dog poo) so THG publishes MAX FPS which means nothing above 60.

In CPUs AMD is a largely low latency, high complexity FPU (plays games with higher LOW FPS and does complex ops best) so THG publishes MAX FPS and RARing times that, once again largely useless, spotlighting the Intel CPU's ability to do simple, heavily cached ops with higher latency. Which in my guess occur 50% in an office environment and about 20% in a home/geek environment.


With a name like "opterondo" you've got to be impartial, right?
March 31, 2007 2:15:55 PM

I've been reading THG for a little over a year and only recently started posting to the forums because its a lot of the same old/same old (Here's my completely bs unreachable clock speed... or LOOK!!! my penis, I mean COMPUTER is bigger, er... I mean faster and more expensive than yours!!! etc) But I've been actually able to get some help from people, so it's been nice. Anyway... back on topic:
THG IS biased. THG is biased by whatever they can be. By this I mean that when they figured out that they could overclock the e6400 to 3.2GHZ or whatever stable, they started touting that on all of their cost/benefit analysis graphs. Well, why not show the AMD processors fully overclocked to their max to do a fair comparison? Or, overclock ALL of the processors to their max and then do the comparison. It's never about comparing apples to apples, only apples to steroid-infused mega-super apples.
I will say this: when THG hates, it hates HARD!!!! Look at the treatment of Intel when AMD had superior products, or flip it to now.
I have my opinions on who is making better equipment right now, but I really couldnt care about theoretical bs that everyone loves to focus on. For instance: name ONE game that fully integrates two cores (not just sharing load, but actually PROGRAMMED from the ground up for the usage of dual cores). Not ONE out there. Oh, there's patches to make your game run better on dualcore, but not one that utilitzes the 2nd core for AI and the other for the actual game play, etc. Everyone scrambles to have the best hardware, but none of it is even utilized at this point.
Case in point: DirectX 9.0... how many games ACTUALLY take advantage of all of the advanced features? maybe a handful. But... look out! We have DX10 on the way and let me tell you... it will be another 5 years or more before they actually start to utilize all of it's features.
March 31, 2007 2:48:24 PM

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What exactly is a bias and what does one look like?


Here you go!

March 31, 2007 2:50:21 PM

Personally I don't believe that THG has any particular bias. Their articles in the past few months have been for the most part so badly researched and written that they are largely to be disregarded. It's not bias. Just amateur ankle-biter juvenile journalism.
March 31, 2007 2:55:14 PM

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Personally I don't believe that THG has any particular bias. Their articles in the past few months have been for the most part so badly researched and written that they are largely to be disregarded. It's not bias. Just amateur ankle-biter juvenile journalism.


8O oooo feel the BURN!!!
March 31, 2007 3:01:11 PM

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8O oooo feel the BURN!!!


I've been in publishing since most people around here were zygotes. I stand by my statement. 8)
March 31, 2007 3:08:11 PM

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8O oooo feel the BURN!!!


I've been in publishing since most people around here were zygotes. I stand by my statement. 8)

I'm just some average jack@ss. I'm not gonna argue.

*looks for credentials and finds a Whataburger wrapper*

EDIT : *mmmm...still a chunk of tomato and cheese on this one..*
March 31, 2007 3:13:33 PM

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*looks for credentials and finds a Whataburger wrapper*


Well, unlike some of you who have to establish your credentials by rummaging through a dumpster, here is a copy of my advanced degree diploma!



:lol: 
March 31, 2007 3:16:12 PM

THG rcoks! :D 
March 31, 2007 3:36:50 PM

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THG rcoks! :D 


You forgot a space. You meant:

THG R Coks!

:lol: 
March 31, 2007 3:45:10 PM

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*looks for credentials and finds a Whataburger wrapper*


Well, unlike some of you who have to establish your credentials by rummaging through a dumpster, here is a copy of my advanced degree diploma!



:lol: 

Do those things have a throttle or a volume knob? :lol: 
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