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I plan on playing Crysis on my P4 2.4 overclocked to 3.4 using an AGP DX10 card when they arrive.

I only plan on running at 1280X720 since that is the highest my awesome 30" monitor goes to.

Isnt 1280X720 doable on this sytem.

A lot of people have called me cheap I just want to put other moneys into building a second machine so I can have two gaming machines, obviously with one being able to play Crysis at much higher rez's.

1280X720 is doable right ?

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Who could possibly answer that? Crysis isn't released yet.

You might want to ask a developer on a Crysis forum, if there are any...

Reply to Cleeve

If no one knows then why have so many called on me to replace my mobo and cpu ?

I never understood how anyone could just so easily say replace everything unless they are resellers in some way themselves.

Based on the AGP anaylsis I and II done here I am confident it will work.

Reply to anthonybuchanan

I'm guessing most people are assuming it won't work because Crysis has some very heavy physics in it. So basically its not your video card, but rather your cpu that most likely won't handle the load the physics will put on it. I haven't heard anything about it, but my personal guess is that Crysis will use multiple core cpu's, so thats another strike against your current setup.

Also, resolution isn't even close to everything that is important about graphics in a game anymore. You have texture quality and lighting settings and other things I can't remmeber while at work. In short, if you get a low end DX10 card, you'll probably be sacrificing a lot more than just the resolution.

Also, its kind of insulting to say people are trying to make you "waste" your money, because you would be able to see a lot of improvement from replacing your cpu/mobo as well, and I don't see how an upgrade that brings improvement can be a waste.

Reply to Vash-HT

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If no one knows then why have so many called on me to replace my mobo and cpu ?

I never understood how anyone could just so easily say replace everything unless they are resellers in some way themselves.

Based on the AGP anaylsis I and II done here I am confident it will work.



They have called you to replace your mobo and cpu because AGP has gone by the way of the Dinosaurs and while AGP may have been satisfactory for DX9 games and older gen gpus, recent articles indicate that DX10 and next/newer gen gpus with use the bandwidth available in PCIe x16 lanes. Just as AGP 2X and 4x gave way to AGP 8x, AGP as a whole has given way to PCIe. While you may be confident now that AGP will work, assuming that DX10 AGP cards will even be worth buying, eventually your system and AGP card will be unable to play certain games or run certain applications. Like it or not, it's the nature or technology, it is what it is.

Reply to chunkymonster

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Who could possibly answer that? Crysis isn't released yet.



Agreed.

Also you didnt say how much ram you have as it is also a big factor.

Reply to desolationw

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If no one knows then why have so many called on me to replace my mobo and cpu ?



Probably because they are making a guess. But as for knowing? Nobody knows. Anyone who tells you what you need for Crysis is guessing, unless they're a developer.

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Based on the AGP anaylsis I and II done here I am confident it will work.



I'm not confident it will work, and I wrote those two articles...

I'm not saying it won't work either. But dude, nobody knows! The game isn't here...

Just wait for the game to come out before making any decisions! What's your hurry to upgrade for something you can't buy yet? More powerful hardware will only get cheaper in the coming months before Crysis arrives...

The longer you wait, the cheaper things get. That's why upgrading for a FUTURE game never makes sense.

Reply to Cleeve

Thanks Cleeve.

Your response is the best possible response I could expect.

I have evrything I wanted from this thread already.

I consider this thread done and hopefully it can be locked.

Reply to anthonybuchanan

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I only plan on running at 1280X720 since that is the highest my awesome 30" monitor goes to.

Isnt 1280X720 doable on this sytem.



A 30" monitor maxing out at 1280 x 720 resolution? Is this a misprint? A 30" LCD should run about 2560 x 1600 and even a 20" CRT should be able to run at 1600 x 1200, or even higher than that. Other than that, Cleeve has the best answer concerning the graphics card for Crysis.

Reply to Sailer

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I'm not saying it won't work either. But dude, nobody knows! The game isn't here...



Not to mention DX10 AGP cards aren't here either, so who knows how they'll perfrom.

Reply to kaotao

My 30" monitor is this.

http://www.ecoustics.com/avrev/princeton/

Not made anymore but was and probably still is the best 30" display ever including the 30" plasmas and LCD's.

Reply to anthonybuchanan

Ok, a 30" monitor from the year 2000 that cost $3999 and has a low resolution. I just didn't recognize it. Too used to modern stuff, I guess, where a 30" LCD costs about $1710 (Newegg) and gives a 2560 x 1600 resolution.

If you like it your monitor, than that's all that counts, just as in all things. What each person likes is what each person likes, and that's why there are so many companies producing so many different things to satisfy those individual likes.

Reply to Sailer

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If no one knows then why have so many called on me to replace my mobo and cpu ?

I never understood how anyone could just so easily say replace everything unless they are resellers in some way themselves.

Based on the AGP anaylsis I and II done here I am confident it will work.



Sir, you're getting to the point where it appears all you want to do is shout and create arguments. I feel there was some validity in your past thread. Your point was defended and counter arguments were presented - both sides had some intelligent and logical presentations. You are absolutely entitled to your opinions - and you gave them in another thread. So please - leave it alone!

Reply to piratepast40

Hate the monitor but will use it for 1280X720 games and my AGP DX10 card.

Will build a dual core PCIe system and then get a large but high rez monitor for that.

Reply to anthonybuchanan

I find it interesting that you keep referring to your DX10 AGP card like it's absolutely certain that there will be DX10 AGP cards. Last I checked, there hasn't been any news to confirm this. If you know something that I don't, please post a link confirming this.

Reply to kaotao

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I find it interesting that you keep referring to your DX10 AGP card like it's absolutely certain that there will be DX10 AGP cards. Last I checked, there hasn't been any news to confirm this. If you know something that I don't, please post a link confirming this.




Agreed. Their have been no releases or information on Any DX10 AGP cards. Just PCI-E. If your looking for a good AGP card, the X1950XT is currently top dog in that department:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814241049

And unfortunately, its out of stock until the 3rd :( Still a awesome card though, but if your desperate a HIS X1950pro can come at 200 bucks probably after a rebate. Still good card too.

Reply to enforcerfx

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Probably because they are making a guess. But as for knowing? Nobody knows. Anyone who tells you what you need for Crysis is guessing, unless they're a developer.



Lots of info out there from a while back really (and no not the lame 'leaked specs') these are from the latest interviews this month (before they even talked about the sound engine requirements, and physics);

From the Dev team;
We are currently optimizing and the final system specs are not released yet. As a rule of thumb, everybody with a PC not older than two years when Crysis is released can play the game. For the full Crysis experience you will need a DirectX10 capable setup."

And the CEO Cevat Yerli himself;
If today you buy an average or high end with a high end graphic card you "should" have no problem running crysis on high. If your pc is 2 or 3 years old but was built to play games, then you should be able to run medium settings. To be more precis, If your pc was ablt to make far cry run by putting all the options on and on max, your pc should be able to run crysis, but just at a lower quality.

I'm sure y'all can decide what's playable and what's not. Like Oblivion will play on intergrated graphics and Athlon CPU, doesn't mean I'd want to.

Of course if anyone were really interested they could be following the Crysis Community Summit all week in Germany.
Maybe check the German sites of note where alot of info is coming out. :wink:

PS, from a 3D animation tinkerer perspective Cleeve, you might be interested in the engine tools, features and specs released mid month;
http://www.crytek.com/CryENGINE2Features.pdf

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