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Help Tuning Overclock AMD 4000+ X2 3.0 GHZ

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You can find Prime95 here.

That's a nice overclock. I'm guessing you're running at 300MHz FSB, so make sure your HT multiplier is 3x. Also, when you say your RAM is at 400MHz, are you talking about the doubled speed or the "raw" speed?

Hey dewd, I have the x2 4000 too, tell me, do you have the 90nm, or 65nm, and what voltage are you running at? I'm running on a piece of crap zalman 9500 am2, but will be replacing with a scythe infinity soon, and I have mine prime95 stable at 2.9ghz, I've reached 3ghz, but not stable, but since you have a pretty decent cooler, my guess is that it should be stable for the most part.

What I would do is set your memory at 667, that will have it operate at ddr2-1000 (I'm assuming 300ht), be sure to set your ht at 3 for stability, you could run it at 4, but to be sure everything is 100% stable, I'd leave it at 3 for now. Then I would try to leave the voltage at stock, but if you must, bump it up to 1.4v (I already mentioned mine runs 2.9ghz fine at 1.36v, but I can't hit 3ghz stable even with voltage bumps, and I've tested the mobo at 340ht stable-crosshair). Also I'd like to know what motherboard you're running on just for comparison's sake and to see how much my crosshair really was worth.
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For the most part, you just tell it to run a stress (torture) test on the cpu only and run a game in the background, and that will show whether your cpu is 100% stable or not. Run it for a few hours 8)

Love Tacos I read your PM, in the post are the parts list. Yes the core is 65 nm and the multiplier es 10.5 and HT is 286 voltage is now in 1.40 and HT link 3x, memory speed set to 400 mhz. Tempeture now is 31 celsius idle and no more than 52 celsius running Prime95

Hmm, I'd add another fan to the ninja just to be safe, since 52c is kinda pushing it right there, but as long as it doesn't stay there often, I think you'll be fine. Just see how hot it gets after a day of torture tests, because that is truly the only way to know for sure; when doing so, crank up the fans, I would try to avoid temps in the 50s just to be safe. Anyways, see if survives that, if it does, then you know it's stable, that's how ninja tested his oc to 4.993ghz on his x6800 (really shocks me he can't get 5ghz stable, but he hasn't really tried too hard yet)

Hey Love_Tacos the ninja came with bracket for only one fan, you think I can fabricate this brackets to put another fan pull type the first one are pusher type. Any idea is welcome... 8O 8) :lol: 

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Hmm, I'd add another fan to the ninja just to be safe, since 52c is kinda pushing it right there, but as long as it doesn't stay there often, I think you'll be fine.


52c is not a dangerous temp. He does not need to worry much unless he gets to 59-60c.

Well, not according to amd's site, they say for the brisbane to start watching temps from 49c, and then 61c is really the thermal limits, but i still wouldn't push it up there to be safe (though a conroe probably could handle it without much of a problem)

Love_Tacos continue with the tuning in the 3.0 ghz land I ran prime95 for 8 hours with no fail, but I need to change the voltage slighty more (1.425v) to do the test, now is stable, but the temperature not passed from 53c in load 34c idle. I check the link for the fan clip, but because I from Puerto Rico the shipping from newegg for $2.49 killing me, I searching in other site for buy it. I continue testing, but I need another fan.

That true logain Puerto Rico is a tropical island, now in this days 88 degrees in summer 96 degrees ufff, that is the reason I bought scythe ninja, I only have 1 fan, I put another for sure maybe more, in scythe web site they put 4 fan pull type wow, so just in case I order more clips for future mods, my case is Raidmax aluminum full tower, the case came with 6 80mm fan but are cheap, from time to time a changed for more powerful type, now I modified the tower to start to put 120mm, I put one in the front and eliminate 2 crapy 80mm x 15mm and order 2 more 120 mm to sustitute side panel 80 mm x 15 for 2 120 mm and later I change the top 80mm for one 140 mm. But remember you start the thing for oc :D  :D  and this project continue evolutioning in another bigger and serious thing.

funnyman06 the difference between Prime95 and Orthos is great, Prime only put 50% load, Orthos 100%, so is more confident Orthos I think. Apart look more simple, but is more informative, Orthos put 2 core on view, so can see the load in every core.

Can't say, it's supposed to work, but I can't get orthos to run for some reason on my computer, not even on different installed oses, so I'm not sure if it's the hdd (most likely), or the cpu, but it gives me a dll error, meaning hdd for the moast part

I can hit 3.1 ghz but not stable, the problem is the temperature, in 3.1 surpass 61 celsius and I slow down to 3.0 GHZ and in this frecuency I can ran Prime95 for 24 hours, I use Scythe Ninja Plus cooler with one 120mm enermax fan 73 cfm, Tacos said to me put another one fan pull type for better cooling effect, the problem is I don't have more fan clip to do that. I ordered few days ago, so I waiting. But for sure with the cooler and one fan at 3.0 GHz the 4000+ ran prime95 errors free. The only concern is 55 celsius on load. So when I put the other fan and modified my case with better ventilation I try 3.1 GHz again.

Well, I think 3.2ghz may be pushing your luck a bit, not because of the ht requirements (246, which maybe the msi board could handle) but because of the architecture, amd's cpus generally hit an overclocking wall a bit above 3ghz, and you'd need better cooling than a scythe ninja to get there anyways

I still believe k10 will be the better choice, those cpus will run cooler because they will be operating at lower frequencies, but will at the same time outperform every athlon 64 to date, and they are also expected to blow the pants off conroe, so I that would be the smart way to go, just get a higher grade k10 cpu and save up for it, so you'd have a good two-three months to save up for perhaps $400 to get a pretty high grade k10 cpu and that way when you overclock it (not that you'd need to), you won't stress the ht as much, but I'm assuming the top k10 cpus will probably cost around a thousand give or take two hundred
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