Athlon 5000+ with MSI K9N-SLI - $275 - Good deal or not?

wilcoxon

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Not really. You can get an Intel C2D E4300 and Gigabyte S3 mobo from NewEgg for about the same price (and it will perform better).
 

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yes and no
yes i u don't want to overclock at all and u are amd fan at heart
no if u plan to overclock and wait until 9th of april cuz amd prices will be much more attractive
ps i'm not amd fanboi just like the ideea that intel is not alone in the cpu market :twisted: more competition more juice for us for less money :D
 

wilcoxon

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Or April 22 for Intel price cuts.

I'm not a "fanboi" for either Intel or AMD. I buy whatever CPU is better for the price. Right now, that happens to be Intel pretty much across the board (for gaming anyway).

I'd love it if AMD releases some CPUs soon that compete with or beat Intel. As you said, more competition is usually good for price and performance.
 

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btw i worked at the CocaCola company in my country as a salesman and by chance my brother at Pepsi...when my manager found out......imagine a amd employed just enter the intel offices...and with the amd branded shirt and tie.... :D
this will never stop....and amd vs intel just make my day
ps sorry about all the jibberish abovbe ..must be caffeine kickin'
 

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Fry's has the AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ with MSI K9N-SLI motherboard for $275 this weekend.

Is this a good deal or not?

hmmm. i'd build a cheaper x2 3800+ OC rig and dump that cash into a x1950pro or a 8800GTS320

or go no OC and get a X2 6000+ and better mobo etail for about what you paid

sry retail is dead

they say its a deal cause they get stuck with it if you don't buy it
 

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Or April 22 for Intel price cuts.

I'm not a "fanboi" for either Intel or AMD. I buy whatever CPU is better for the price. Right now, that happens to be Intel pretty much across the board (for gaming anyway).

I'd love it if AMD releases some CPUs soon that compete with or beat Intel. As you said, more competition is usually good for price and performance.

sounds good but honestly unless your going to rad OC,,, AMD can meet a C2D E6600 in performance and cost...........
 

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sounds good but honestly unless your going to rad OC AMD can meet a C2D E6600 in performance and cost...........

Huh? Every single benchmark (Tom's, Anandtech, HardOCP, etc) I've seen (stock speed and OC) puts C2D ahead of AMD currently except in certain multi-tasking tests.
 

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sounds good but honestly unless your going to rad OC AMD can meet a C2D E6600 in performance and cost...........

Huh? Every single benchmark (Tom's, Anandtech, HardOCP, etc) I've seen (stock speed and OC) puts C2D ahead of AMD currently except in certain multi-tasking tests.

First off the new stepping of 65nm Brisbane X2 - 3800+ $115 can hit 3.0+ and uses AM2 mobo Barcelona TRUE quad core is going to launch on. C2D can OC good too but it's a $310 chip to get started. Gaming they are identical and the rest usually the C2D is like 20% faster, ie. RARing a file, Divxing a clip, etc. As usual depends on what you want to do and your budget. Video cards play games not cpus necessarily.
 

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An E4300 overclocked will outperform any X2 out there so your $310 chip comment is totally wrong considering it runs $169 or so and will be $113 on April 22nd. Also the x2 3600+ is $89 now and will be $63 next week. Core 2's are faster in every benchmark, even gaming, over x2 with the exception of a very select few. Also Barcelona is a server chip not a desktop chip so get your facts straight. It will be I believe Agena that will be the desktop version and with the way AMD has been in delaying things hard telling when or ever it will see the light of day.

Not in games - esp. E4300, your dreaming a big wet one. Also Barcelona is the launch quad core chip and Agena is the dual core to follow. Poster asked if AMD combo purchased was good deal ..

Again, "As usual depends on what you want to do and your budget. Video cards play games not cpus necessarily."
 

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Gigabyte P965 S3
C2D E6300 1.86 @ 3.22ghz 1.325V (460x7)
Arctic Cooler Freezer 7 pro
2gb OCZ DDR2-800 4-5-4-15
EVGA 7600GT OC
Western Dig 160gb 16mb Sata2
Sony dual layer 16x DVDR
Antec w/CoolerMaster Extreme Power600w
BenQ FP93G LCD

Might watch that OC, much above 3.0 usually goes pop. Does is load above 55C? jc
 

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Not on the Core2Duos :>

3.2Ghz is still a mild OC.
It's really only 10% over the clock speed at which they are currently shipping that chip. The 6800 ships at 2.93 Ghz and is the same chip in regards to its physical limits. The only difference is the tested speed and default settings.

When looking to OC chips, you must look at the fastest model of that design when trying to figure out how out of bounds an OC may be.

Not until you reach 3.6Ghz in many cases are you hitting issues, though at that speed you do need some very good cooling.

I know my C2Duo hit 3.2Ghz w/o a voltage boost even.
 
A good deal? Depends. If you like to buy and take home to have right now, it's not a bad deal. if the price was $225-$250, I'd say it would be a very good deal. If you don't mind shopping online, you can find slightly better for about the same money. Personally I hate ordering and waiting on something. If I want it, I want it right now!
Only exception would be if I was ordering a totally new system, so the all the $20 here and $15 there would add up to a substantial overall savings.
Also, what are you currently using? That has some bearing as well.