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2 sli connectors on the 8800gtx wtf?

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why are there 2 sli connectors on the 8800gtx?? ive been gone for like a month and everything changes...but the sli connectors were there since launch though

theres no quad sli mobos...only some of the 680is have tri pci express slots

help iam lost here

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asymetric SLi

also Quado SLi is now possible, just like Quad XFire.

Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe

You misunderstand what he was writing about.
Actual SLi connectors, not the misnomered power connection.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-143-080-06.jpg

Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe

im pretty darn sure there is a mobo that supports 4 pci-e cards :? :? :?

or maybe it was 4 different cards....cant remember.

Reply to blade85

so one is for physics...swweet...i wish you could get a like 7600gt and use that for physics instead of going out and buying another realllllllly expensive card to match your sli setup

Reply to lewbaseball07

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im pretty darn sure there is a mobo that supports 4 pci-e cards :? :? :?

or maybe it was 4 different cards....cant remember.


well, there's 4x4, and there's also quadsli that was a major flop, but you can't fit 4 8800s in a 4x4 mobo due to the large hsf on it, there isn't enough space between the bottom two pci_e x8slots, so really, you either run something like 4 7600gts, or you don't use quad sli on 4x4, but 4 7600gts is just stupid, a single gts will overpower it, so not many people go that route

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

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As i understand it it's not for quad SLI but it allows you, with the right motherboard, to SLI a pair of them and have a 3rd which will handle the physics.



No actually it's for unbound chains.

The original SLi on the GF6 & 7 only allowed 2 way communication along 1 path, thus the GX2 was not really quad SLi, but SLi+SLi, that was actually a limitation on the chip. there was no such limitation to ATi's solution (nor their previous solutions like the E&S simfusion [which allowed up to 32sets of cards in a rack mount system]).

Now neither the R600 nor the GF8 are limited, and quad SLi/Xfire are quite easily possible whic true point to point communication between the chips (without going through the PCIe lanes). This also allows faster card to card communication by doubling the throughput. However moreoften than not these connectors aren't really saturated, they are mainly used to control the cards.

Now while ATi has mentioned support for Quad Xfire, and nvidia has already demoed their bastardized version of 'quad', the interesting concept is the idea nV was mentioning of asymetric SLi involving 4 cards, but 1 for physics, and 3 for graphics, and then the ability to adjust tha based on needs. So no physics, quad SLi, some physics, tri (asymetric) SLi, heavy physics, dual Physics cards, and dual graphics.

Alot of it is still sketchy, with only leaks and such, but the gist of it is that now there are no physical limitations for SLi/Xfire in greater numbers tha 2, and while this may be big for us, the largest impact may be in the workstation and GPGPU fields, howvwer there's been little said there too, and I doubt we'll see any of it until the R600, and GF8900 and G80-GX2 variants hit so the competition can size each other up. Also the drivers are likely far from ready for both companies, we know the current state of VistsaSLi, and I doubt Quad for either company would fair much better at first, but I sure would love to see some serious use of that super tiling with more than just 2 cards.

Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe

So if you could get an external box such as the one the quadroplex uses, in theory you could use 4gtxs in sli and get 500fps even in oblivion with ultra high settings 8O

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

I thought current mobos were limited to 20 pcie lanes. which is why dual x16 slots really only run in x8 mode? So single x16 slot and some x1's. Else same but 2 x16 which run x16 when only one slot is used. X38 chipset due this fall with PCIe 2.0 is supposed to have dual x16 running both at x16. (and twice the data rate at 1.0 for four times the bandwidth running to your SLI/Xfire setup) does 680i do true x16 SLI/Xfire now?

Reply to slyck

ehh, I don't recall that being true, x16 lanes should run at x16 lanes even in sli, though I know xfire can only run x8. But for 4x4, that's a different story, it has more lanes, and has 2 x16, and 2x8, plus I think a pcie or x1, they aren't all limited to 20 lanes

Reply to I_Love_Tacos

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So if you could get an external box such as the one the quadroplex uses, in theory you could use 4gtxs in sli and get 500fps even in oblivion with ultra high settings 8O



Pfft, nah, Oblivion doesn't need that kinda speed, whereas Tetris and Pong need it for my mad skillz! http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/6281/sport16qe3.gif

Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe

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I thought current mobos were limited to 20 pcie lanes.



You're thinking old MoBo, which were 20-24 lanes, now most new high end MoBos have 36-48 lanes.

And Xfire itself isn't limited to 8 lanes, only the C2D solution is limited to 8 lanes per slot.

The Xpress 3200 for AMD is 16 lanes per card, and the chip provides 40 lanes, nV uses 2 chips to provide 46 lanes;

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] 200_3.html

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] sli_3.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] sli_4.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] sli_7.html

Both solutions could easily provide 4 x 8 lanes, and with the next generation will add to that with the expectation being higher numbers with the desire to be 16+16+16+8, but early board focusing on physics with the 16+8+8 and 16+16+8 configurations. The 4x8 is already on the map;

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/1894/xfirefut2jj9.jpg

Here's the mention of QuadFire way back when the X1950Pro first came out with the new connector;
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=2858&p=3

"When pressed further about why two connectors were used, ATI asked us to envision a system with 3 or 4 graphics cards installed. With 2 channels, cards can be easily chained together. This does offer ATI a little more flexibility than NVIDIA in scaling multi-GPU configurations, but it is also a little more cumbersome and offers more small parts to lose. Overall, though, the 2 channel configuration is a good thing."

Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe

Just a thought but since there are two SLI connections, say you want to do normal SLI with the 8800GTX, if you use an SLI bridge to connect them to each other can you use two SLI bridges? would that increase performance at all, the way i think it would is because the cards are now "doubled linked" sharing information could be a lot faster.

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