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7800 GT still a viable opition at 1680x1050?

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April 2, 2007 9:34:15 AM

I know the benches are better; I'm looking for real world replies.

Many thanks. I have to make this choice soon; the guy who is selling wants my 7600 GT KO in return.

I'm looking for the cheapest upgrade possible since I'm broke and can barely afford the extra $ he's asking for. :( 

The extra pipes and shaders have to be worth it, don't they? I just don't want to pay $50 for no performance increase.

Obviously DX10 is not a concern for me right now.
April 2, 2007 10:34:26 AM

So 7600 GT + 50$ for a 7800 GT?

Thats not such a good deal. With 20$ aftermarket cooling u can get to a 7800 GT performance level, with the 7600 GT and the 7800 GT cant overclock almost at all.
Of course there is the issue of memory bandwidth. The 7800 GT has twice the bus, so almost twice the bandwidth. Bandwidth is important for higher resolutions and AA, and will give u a performance advantage - just look at the X1950XTX compared to the X1900XTX.

If u want to upgrade, i suggest going for an X1950XT for 190$, while selling the 7600GT, or just buying another 7600 GT.
April 2, 2007 11:26:50 AM

Unfortunately my mobo doesn't support SLI.

I thought 7800 GT was a decent oc'er? Maybe I was wrong.

I'll look into it. Thanks for reply.

I have to make decision today.
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April 2, 2007 11:27:15 AM

I have an x850 pro and a xfx7800 gtx and im running at 1680 x 1050, but i havnt tested games using that res and my 7800 as my current build is a bit fubar, anyway the res is fine with an x850 pro so the 7800 will easily handle it.

I doubt a 7600GT can be OC'd to a 7800GT( but i have know to be wrong in the past ), with a 7600GTX and an OC'd AMD 4200 i get just under 9000 in 3dmark 05 and 4950 in 3dmark 06( just so you know where im comping from as the 7800GT here - http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_7600... gets 3676 but it may be reduced because of a lesser CPU ). So bottom line is with a 7800 you can run all the latest games maxed out( obviously within reason, oblivion runs very well on the 7800 but can drop to 35FPS in spots and thats just at 1280 x 1024 ).

TBH, if you run at 1280 x 1024 now, increasing to 1680 x 1050 will decrease FPS by about 20% BUT at the higher resolution you can decrease the AA a notch without any noticable difference meaning you wont lose any performance whatsoever

If you look at these performance graphs @ http://firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_7800_gt/...
You will see neglible performance difference between the 7800GT and the 7800GTX and $50 is nothing nowadays :) 
For comparison with the 7600GT - http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_7600...
You can see that the 7800GT is clearly much better even OC'd the 7600 will only get halfway between a stock 7600 GT and a 7800GT

Just a little bit more info, the 7800 series is a bad OC'er due to the heat it generates and pwoer consumption, this was fixed in the 79x0 series. As was said if your getting a new card get the 1950 pro. otherwise for $50 you will see a big performance improvement between your current card and a 7800GT, i would do it if i were you
April 2, 2007 12:12:45 PM

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So 7600 GT + 50$ for a 7800 GT?

Thats not such a good deal. With 20$ aftermarket cooling u can get to a 7800 GT performance level, with the 7600 GT and the 7800 GT cant overclock almost at all.
Of course there is the issue of memory bandwidth. The 7800 GT has twice the bus, so almost twice the bandwidth. Bandwidth is important for higher resolutions and AA, and will give u a performance advantage - just look at the X1950XTX compared to the X1900XTX.

If u want to upgrade, i suggest going for an X1950XT for 190$, while selling the 7600GT, or just buying another 7600 GT.
You're way off; the 7800GT will walk all over the 7600GT, and the difference between the X1950XTX and X1900XTX is a lot smaller than you're suggesting.
April 2, 2007 2:24:30 PM

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With 20$ aftermarket cooling u can get to a 7800 GT performance level


I seriously doubt overclocking a 7600 GT will get it anywhere near a 7800 GT. The 7600 GT might overclock well, but that memory interface will severely limit it.

7600 GT: 12 pipes, 128-bit memory interface
7800 GT: 20 pipes, 256-bit memory interface

I'd offer $40 for the upgrade. A 7900 GS is basically an overclocked 7800 GT, and you can get those for $160 nowadays...
April 2, 2007 2:53:21 PM

OK, read this:
My previews card was a Leadtek GeForce7800 GT.
I OverClocked it from 400/1000MHz to 450/1100MHz (with stock Leadtek fan).
with that card i finished Just Cause (1024x768Max & NoAA because of HDR) with good FPS,Need For Speed Carbon (1024x768+Medium to High Details+4xAA) with 60FPS & my 3DMark05 score was 7620.
My Brother has a MSI GeForce7600GT OverClocked from 540/1400MHz to 590/1600MHz(with MSI big two slot fan).
with that card he just uninstalled Just Cause because of Low FPS, Need For Speed Carbon (Details like mine 800x600 & 2xAA)with 40~50FPS & his 3DMark05 score is 6400.
so these mean that 7800GT is much better than 7600GT & can also OverClock to a 7800GTX or 7900GS.
as the others said, a GeForce7600GT can't OverClock to a Stock 7800GT.
i think upgrading from 7600GT to 7800GT worths the 50$.
April 2, 2007 5:52:28 PM

Thanks for the replies

I figured that going from 7600 GT to a 7800 GT was my best option for around $50 (He won't come down any from $50), especially since I only own one PCI express PC and my 7600 GT would gather dust.

It definitely helps to hear it from people who know what they're doing.
April 2, 2007 6:46:42 PM

these 7800GT 3DMark05 Scores are pitiful. My 3600 and x850XTPE scored 7500.....

Just an observation.
April 2, 2007 7:00:07 PM

x850xtpe is still a great card. too bad it doesn`t support sm3.0. the 7800gt does :lol: 
April 2, 2007 7:16:14 PM

I know, right!! I shoulda kept mine. This x1950Pro is great though, my x850 may have choked at 1680x1050..... lol
April 2, 2007 8:20:06 PM

I am not sure which 7600GT you have, I know some are fairly quiet, and if yours truely has HDCP, then it is should be an even trade. Those cards are in demand. (Many claim it, but it doesn't work as it should limiting your HDTV resolution output options)

I have a 7800GTX. It very nice for most game play with very good graphics at 1280*1024. It cries at 1600*1200, unless you turn off some AA and other features etc, but the resolution makes up for it. For everything turned on FSX it is doggy even at 1024*768. But this is the drool over graphics setting intended for SLI setups.
April 3, 2007 10:56:08 AM

Hey topic starter...didnt I see u post this on espn.com's message boards? Just curious.
April 3, 2007 4:07:24 PM

Yeah, I posted it several places because I had to make a quick decision. I was a little worried about trading a newer card for an older one, especially since I have no money right now and the 7600 GT is a good card.

This is the only place I got a reply. This seems like a cool board. I think I'll stick around.
April 3, 2007 6:37:12 PM

welcome aboard :) 
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