Thanks TheGreatGrapeApe on DX10. I have Xbox solution

I this case you lead a horse to water and he will drink.

My two AGP DX10 threads have become so filled with excellent feedback that I became overwhemed keeping up with them however I did stumble on feedback from TheGreatGrapeApe that has put the whole thing to bed for me.

I had wanted to add an upcoming AGP DX10 card to my overclocked to 3.4 Mz P4 system. I posted that I would be satisfied running Crysis at a lower rez and lower quality setting.

TheGreatGrapeApe reminded me that -I cant believe I didnt consider this myself- "whats the point in DX10 at lower settings you may as well run DX9.".

After all of the other complex but excellent feedback from members this little common sense comment made the whole issue as clear as day.

Rather than spend on a AGP DX10 card, I have decided to use this P4 machine and a decent DX9 card in the same room with an Xbox 360. I have two

http://www.ecoustics.com/avrev/princeton/

monitors where one will host the Xbox and the other one the P4 PC. The P4 PC basically becomes a Home Theater PC.

The Xbox 360 will put out analog 6.1 audio thru my Megaworks 6.1 speakers using Creative Labs I/O drive.

I can now focus on building new a dual or quad core machine and adding a PCIe card latter when I can also afford a 30" 2500 X ??? rez monitor.

Thats for leading this "old horse" to water.

A 30" LCD with a resolution of 2560x1600 will be at least $1600, and you'd need two 8800GTXs to really play at that resolution.

If I bypass on the Xbox 360 then I still must do something to make the P4 system gameable. Id have to spend on a DX9 card that does not require I change my power supply. The P4 currently has a ATI 9100 64 meg card.

Maybe I could get a decent card for $150. We'll see.

The best part is that I no longer think about AGP DX10.

:? :? Quad core -Dual core , won't you need a new motherboard , can anyone please tell me why would you build a quad or dual cpu system and not have a PCie card 8O .

While you are drinking the water have a swim , which actually may help re-energize your brain cells.


Good luck horsy

:? :? Quad core -Dual core , won't you need a new motherboard , can anyone please tell me why would you build a quad or dual cpu system and not have a PCie card 8O .

While you are drinking the water have a swim , which actually may help re-energize your brain cells.


Good luck horsy

Someone needs to lay off the crack pipe.

That would be nice if it could die, but unfortunately AMD has announce the R600, R630, R610 are compatible with an AGP bridge chip, so ATi will be spitting out some DX10 hardware, may take a year or so for a lower powered version of the R600 to come out feasible for DX10 but it can happen and most likely will.

Its just like IDE DVD/CD rom drives, why can't they go away and join the SATA fun, and why do they keep making OS/2 keyboards and mice, USB ftw!!!!

Wrong, when ati releases the r600 line up it will have a bridge adaptor for them to work with agp's.

Well I think if your focus is to wait for the better CPUs and the actual full compliment of DX10 cards when they are most needed it's a good strategy.

I don't do the either/or, I have an Xbox and PSP, and PC. My only limitation now is Laptop, but they are powerful enough finally for my needs.

So, if you're waiting for a solid CPU combination and going to focus the money wisely then it's a good strategy.

I agree with the person who said maybe taking the $400 from the Xbox and investing in the new build is also a good idea, but to each their own, there are some benefits of the Xbox because if the games you want are there, then you can focus on what you want for software dev, where I think even a dual socket (thus 2 x quad maybe) is also attractive if you find the right MoBo, I just helped a friend build a new dual socket solution for his design rig, and he's starting with just 1 dual core CPU and upgrading to a second one once his tax return comes back.

The main thing is to look at what you expect out of it and whether the money is well spent. Rememebr Xbox games are often more expensive at launch and you are somewhat limited so there is that factor, but as long as you take the time you were going to spend waiting for the DX10 AGP solutions, and instead invest it into building the best rig for the money, with or without the Xbox, I think that's a good strategy.

chunkymonster, that what I am doing.

Did you read my post ?

You mean DX8.0 gaming right?

No BF2 or Oblivion for you!

At least not without a mod or two.

You got that right

I am sorry i didn't read the "get the pcie latter part"

also for the record i don't smoke BAD habit , now drinking beers well