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"bernadette" <bernadette.saenz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Which one will some out over all of the rest? CRT, LCD, Plasma, rear
> projection, or front projection?
Intel has new LCD-on silicon technology that will probably displace most of
these for both front and rear projection.
Coming in 2006.
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"bernadette" <bernadette.saenz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Which one will some out over all of the rest? CRT, LCD, Plasma, rear
> projection, or front projection?
from what I have heard oled is the next quantum leap, will be interesting to
see if this actually happens though
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"bernadette" <bernadette.saenz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Which one will some out over all of the rest? CRT, LCD, Plasma, rear
> projection, or front projection?
Crystal ball gazing now but I hazard a guess and say *none*. A newer
technology will take over.
You neglected to mention a time scale/frame.
But 2 - 5 years probably LCD. I personally prefer (visually) plasma but it
seams doomed :-( (to expensive to manufacture).
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"Jean Cote" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
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>
>
> News wrote:
> > A newer technology will take over.
>
> Like
>
> GLV
> LCos
> Dila
> Ila
> Palc
> Pdp
> Oled
Ignore above name - I'm using a spare laptop. I have just reset it to my
real ID :-)
I did say I needed a time frame to "crystal ball gaze". It is a bit like
Edison being asked what do you see storage mediums like in 100 years time.
I actually believe that "in the not too distant future" that a direct
cerebral interface will be achieved. Now won't that blow the collective
mind? If you ever saw Natalie Wood's last film "Brainstorm" you will get an
idea of what I mean.
BTW I did say IMHO LCD would be it in the short term ;-)
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LCD probably. Its getting cheaper all the time, its problems arent
insurmountable, a rp set is relativly light and thin, and a front projector
is small. portable, and compact
Long term though DLP will win if they can get the price down to where they
can make 3 chip sets
DLP sets today have something called a "color wheel" that would make rube
Goldberg proud. Its composed of the three colors(red, blue, green) and is
synched with the one black and white chip to give you all three color
fields.
This thing spins at a rediculous speed and has the life span of a third word
dictator. On the bright side it will cost an arm and a leg to fix
I keep hearing about a new tech that consists of a flat luminescent plastic
screen, you shoot organic LCD pixels onto it with an inkjet printer! Imagine
a TV screen 10 ft in diameter that runs at a few hundred bucks!
My cousin has actually seen one of these at a high end shop in missouri, but
they have dropped off the radar screen lately
"bernadette" <bernadette.saenz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Which one will some out over all of the rest? CRT, LCD, Plasma, rear
> projection, or front projection?
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<steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:QIvdd.19517$qH3.3342@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> LCD probably. Its getting cheaper all the time, its problems arent
> insurmountable, a rp set is relativly light and thin, and a front projector
> is small. portable, and compact
> Long term though DLP will win if they can get the price down to where they
> can make 3 chip sets
Bah Price has nothing to do with it (3 x your cheapest DLP projector is not 30-130K) 8-)
> DLP sets today have something called a "color wheel" that would make rube
> Goldberg proud. Its composed of the three colors(red, blue, green) and is
> synched with the one black and white chip to give you all three color
> fields.
Do not undrstand your black and white chip but the life expectancy of the colour wheels ( I assume you are
refering to the motors) should be as good as any other quality electronci device. Of course those 130K 3 Chip
models don't have them. Persoanlly I cannot help but think someone is artificially (TI perhaps) preventing
the 3 chips moving out of the profesional market into the home theatre maket.
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> <steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> > LCD probably. Its getting cheaper all the time, its problems arent
> > insurmountable, a rp set is relativly light and thin, and a front
projector
> > is small. portable, and compact
> > Long term though DLP will win if they can get the price down to where
they
> > can make 3 chip sets
>
> Bah Price has nothing to do with it (3 x your cheapest DLP projector is
not 30-130K) 8-)
>
>
> > DLP sets today have something called a "color wheel" that would make
rube
> > Goldberg proud. Its composed of the three colors(red, blue, green) and
is
> > synched with the one black and white chip to give you all three color
> > fields.
>
> Do not undrstand your black and white chip but the life expectancy of the
colour wheels ( I assume you are
> refering to the motors) should be as good as any other quality electronci
device. Of course those 130K 3 Chip
> models don't have them. Persoanlly I cannot help but think someone is
artificially (TI perhaps) preventing
> the 3 chips moving out of the profesional market into the home theatre
maket.
>
>
> > This thing spins at a rediculous speed
>
> No worse than a Hard drive.
Actually, cost is one issue. The manufacturers have one supplier for DLP
chips, TI. If they made 3-chip sets they would also have to add complexity
to the optical path. The price would be higher and the perceived market for
more expensive sets is weak. Right now the manufacturers are trying to keep
profits up on DLP as prices are forced down by competition. The dropping
prices are putting price pressure on CRT based sets and they know that they
will become losers like smaller direct view sets before long. They are
trying to squeeze as much out of DLP as they can while the prices are
higher. Not much incentive to build 3-chip consumer products.
There is also the fact that the color wheel system works pretty well.
Remember, with 3 chip systems you still have to have filters. You also
can't turn on full white with prisms and filters like you can with a color
wheel. Reliability of the motors, bearings, and filters is a matter of how
well built they are. More likely to be a problem in all technologies that
use the are the cheap fans that most use.
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CRT, of course.The quality is unbeatable, no "burnt" pixels from the
factory, and at least 50 years of manufacturing experience behind
it.Although against the "collective's mind" obsession with digital things.
--
Dimitris Tzortzakakis,Iraklion Crete,Greece
major in electrical engineering-freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
? "bernadette" <bernadette.saenz@sbcglobal.net> ?????? ??? ??????
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> Which one will some out over all of the rest? CRT, LCD, Plasma, rear
> projection, or front projection?
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In article <PLGdnZVoz8J9SejcRVn-jw@comcast.com>,
"Robert Morein" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "bernadette" <bernadette.saenz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:ba6f9ebd.0410191847.5c668a35@posting.google.com...
> > Which one will some out over all of the rest? CRT, LCD, Plasma, rear
> > projection, or front projection?
>
> Intel has new LCD-on silicon technology that will probably displace most of
> these for both front and rear projection.
> Coming in 2006.
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I would think the DLP sets would become more perfected. The LED sets
should get cheaper with a wider viewing angle. A 40" to 50" screen
size may become the norm.
hdtvfan
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:30:10 GMT, poldy <poldy@kfu.com> wrote:
>In article <PLGdnZVoz8J9SejcRVn-jw@comcast.com>,
> "Robert Morein" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> "bernadette" <bernadette.saenz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:ba6f9ebd.0410191847.5c668a35@posting.google.com...
>> > Which one will some out over all of the rest? CRT, LCD, Plasma, rear
>> > projection, or front projection?
>>
>> Intel has new LCD-on silicon technology that will probably displace most of
>> these for both front and rear projection.
>> Coming in 2006.
>
>Intel announced they're not coming out with LCOS.
>
>SED anyone?
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Interesting is the word on oleds. A cousin in missouri saw a prototype, you
could shoot the things on a roll up plastic screen with an ink jet
printer!!!
Havent heard anything about it lately tho. Keep your fingers and toes
crossed
"PJ" <NOpjbiberSPAM@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "bernadette" <bernadette.saenz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:ba6f9ebd.0410191847.5c668a35@posting.google.com...
> > Which one will some out over all of the rest? CRT, LCD, Plasma, rear
> > projection, or front projection?
>
> from what I have heard oled is the next quantum leap, will be interesting
to
> see if this actually happens though
>
> Already in production in some PDA's in Japan
>
>
http://news.com.com/Sony+begins+ma [...] 00-1041_3- 5366020.html
>
> This article is just one I found quickly - just happened to be Sony.
>
>
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<steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Interesting is the word on oleds. A cousin in missouri saw a prototype,
> you
> could shoot the things on a roll up plastic screen with an ink jet
> printer!!!
> Havent heard anything about it lately tho. Keep your fingers and toes
> crossed
> "PJ" <NOpjbiberSPAM@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:2tn2epF20p0lfU1@uni-berlin.de...
>>
>> "bernadette" <bernadette.saenz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:ba6f9ebd.0410191847.5c668a35@posting.google.com...
>> > Which one will some out over all of the rest? CRT, LCD, Plasma, rear
>> > projection, or front projection?
>>
>> from what I have heard oled is the next quantum leap, will be interesting
> to
>> see if this actually happens though
>>
>> Already in production in some PDA's in Japan
>>
>>
> http://news.com.com/Sony+begins+ma [...] 00-1041_3- > 5366020.html
>>
>> This article is just one I found quickly - just happened to be Sony.
>>
Problems to be fixed first before it becomes your next TV display:
Short life
Poor color fidelity
Poor gray scale
Poor blacks
Lack of adequate brightness
Lack of adequate contrast
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"Richard" <rfeirste@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> <steve99@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:HMwhd.8819$Om6.1420@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>> Interesting is the word on oleds. A cousin in missouri saw a prototype,
>> you
>> could shoot the things on a roll up plastic screen with an ink jet
>> printer!!!
>> Havent heard anything about it lately tho. Keep your fingers and toes
>> crossed
>> "PJ" <NOpjbiberSPAM@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:2tn2epF20p0lfU1@uni-berlin.de...
>>>
>>> "bernadette" <bernadette.saenz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ba6f9ebd.0410191847.5c668a35@posting.google.com...
>>> > Which one will some out over all of the rest? CRT, LCD, Plasma, rear
>>> > projection, or front projection?
>>>
>>> from what I have heard oled is the next quantum leap, will be
>>> interesting
>> to
>>> see if this actually happens though
>>>
>>> Already in production in some PDA's in Japan
>>>
>>>
>> http://news.com.com/Sony+begins+ma [...] 00-1041_3- >> 5366020.html
>>>
>>> This article is just one I found quickly - just happened to be Sony.
>>>
>
> Problems to be fixed first before it becomes your next TV display:
>
> Short life
> Poor color fidelity
> Poor gray scale
> Poor blacks
> Lack of adequate brightness
> Lack of adequate contrast
I have personally seen color OLED displays from a number of labs, including
Sony, both short molecule and true polymer LED's
blacks are not a problem since a polymer OLED in the off state emits ZERO
light
additionally, I have seen polymer OLED screens so bright they were painful
to look at
For a short period, these displays generated the highest dynamic range color
display I have seen - breathtaking.
For short periods.
The root problem is low lifetime at high brightness, depending on the
technology, some high output blues or reds die within 1000-3000 hours while
other colors last 10x longer. Lower intensity, less capable formulations
last longer but can't deliver the brightness or the gamut.
As such, both color accuracy and especially color burn-in are a severe
problem on a emitter than only lasts 1000 hours and wear out each color at a
vastly different rate.
But a lot of money is going into the technology and I expect the issues will
be solved.
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