8800 GTS 320 vs the 8800 GTS 640

Ok, here is what I am doing, a gaming machine, I have posted the build ,in the homebuilt section, many times, revised it, added and dropped parts and I think I have everything totally down expect the 8800 GTS 320 vs 640.

Here is the LCD I am buying:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16824112007

Here is the recommended/native resolution:
1680x1050

Ok, do I need the 640 megs onboard, or will the 320 be good. I know the 320 hits a wall at higher resolutions, but what is it..and will it be good enough for this LCD?

Thanks guys/gals
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  1. Tough call, that res is on the border of where I'd say go from 320 to 640, still, IMO you should spring for the 640mb, I expect that even some current games at superhigh settings could use over 320mb and have to go into system memory, and future games certainly will.

    edit: omg that sentence ran on longer than Terry Fox
  2. I figured I was on the fence, so I guess it's the 640. My mom taught me, always move up, never down!

    Thanks
  3. Well depends though, how often do you upgrade? So far right now the difference between the two is pretty nill in most games and an overclocked version of the 320mb is usually much faster that a standard 640 plus much cheaper. So it all depends. You could save money now but maybe soon that 640mb of mem may be usefull.
  4. THE LCD is totaly f**ked up ... it has 5 ms g to g that means 20 ms normaly... the brand is wicked... try a samsung or benq...
    i agree with the 640 mb 8800
  5. Quote:
    I figured I was on the fence, so I guess it's the 640. My mom taught me, always move up, never down!

    Thanks

    Damn. My mom just taught me not to talk to strangers and to not play in the street.
  6. That's ok.. his mom taught me to move up *and* down....


    ...on top of her.

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Sorry.. I can't resist a mom joke. Seriously.. it's a problem I have.

    But about your cards; I would take the 640 EVGA and step up to the 8900 or the 8800gtx when the 8900 comes out. You probably want a 8800GTX, right? Well.. play with the best you can afford now (the 640) and when the prices drop because of the 8900 release, you can use the money you bought the 640 for to fund your upgrade.
  7. Hey, get off his mom... I just did
    (rimshot sound byte)

    I got the evga 8800gts 320mb since I am at 1280 on a lowly CRT, it is nice to max out the gfx settings on every game owned. worth every penny.
  8. Don't get that monitor; hell, it has "1080P" in the name, but it doesn't even support 1920x1080.
  9. Can anyone link a suggested LCD replacement for me from Newegg? Aroudn the the same prices.
  10. This is a bit more, and a bit smaller, but a much higher quality LCD:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001095

    This is smaller still, but has glorious reviews, is one hell of a solid product. I own either that one or a model right around it. It's perfect for gaming and was marketed as "fastest LCD on the market" for awhile. Not sure if it's vista ready, but as you're playing games, I'm not sure you'd want to be running vista. Only thing I don't like about it is that you cannot raise or lower it on the stand, and you cannot tilt it.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116375
  11. I bought the 320MB and at that resolution the card is a bit weak in Oblvion with 4xaa and 16xaa. Can't say for sure the 640MB would be better at those demanding settings, but I suspect yes it would be. I had R600 on my mind anyway, but possibly would do the eVGA trade up instead depending how things pan out between 8800GTX, 8900's, and R600's. Whichever route offers me more for my money will be the way I go.
  12. Quote:
    I figured I was on the fence, so I guess it's the 640. My mom taught me, always move up, never down!

    Thanks



    Mine told me "You'd better shop around".
  13. Quote:
    I figured I was on the fence, so I guess it's the 640. My mom taught me, always move up, never down!

    Thanks

    Damn. My mom just taught me not to talk to strangers and to not play in the street.

    LOL...Looking like that I can see why. :lol:
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    THE LCD is totaly f**ked up ... it has 5 ms g to g that means 20 ms normaly... the brand is wicked... try a samsung or benq...
    i agree with the 640 mb 8800

    and by buying a samsung or a benq you really think that the specs they give you are real? Think again :!:
  15. When looking for an LCD, other than the customer reviews, what I am looking for in the system specifications. What stats in particular am I looking for other than name brand, warranty, and price.


    Example:

    What I see here is:
    5ms..I want lowest correct?

    contrast Ratio 900-1

    I want it as high as possible? ie 1000 to 1?

    The Native resolution:
    1680 x 1050


    I am just not versed enough to pick by stats alone, or maybe I don't know whats most important.


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  16. Hi

    If you want to game at that resolution , you can with a 320mb card as long as it is paired with a high end processor .

    By high end i mean a E6600. I own a 320mb card Superclocked EVGA.

    I have it paired with a AMD 3000+ , which is a bottleneck for the card .

    So my suggestion is based on practically using the product, even on this processor i can run all my games 16aa 16af -Nfs most wanted etc.

    I will be getting a new processor waiting for the price cuts .
  17. Don't get the 320mb version!!!!! I have a link you will need to look at.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/7games-spring2007.html

    Seriously it has probs when at any res near 16x12 or more. I also heard STALKER uses 600 mb video memory at highest settings and it would cripple the 320mb version. Also many games use near 500mb of v-memory even at lower resolutions. It has more to do with textures and shaders than resolution. Although upping the res on a texture heavy game seriously upps the v-ram usage. DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD!!!
  18. Quote:
    Don't get the 320mb version!!!!! I have a link you will need to look at.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/7games-spring2007.html

    Seriously it has probs when at any res near 16x12 or more. I also heard STALKER uses 600 mb video memory at highest settings and it would cripple the 320mb version. Also many games use near 500mb of v-memory even at lower resolutions. It has more to do with textures and shaders than resolution. Although upping the res on a texture heavy game seriously upps the v-ram usage. DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD!!!


    Funny thing... i noticed that on page 3 the 8800GTS 640MB puts out 55FPS and 82FPS in Battlefield2142 at 1280x1024. Now turn to next page (page 4) and read the 320MB version of the 8800GTS. It gives 58 and 82.2FPS respectively! Not only it beats its 640MB bigger brother, but it performs on par with the 8800GTX!!! LOL! There is definately something wrong there!
  19. Quote:
    Don't get the 320mb version!!!!! I have a link you will need to look at.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/7games-spring2007.html

    Seriously it has probs when at any res near 16x12 or more. I also heard STALKER uses 600 mb video memory at highest settings and it would cripple the 320mb version. Also many games use near 500mb of v-memory even at lower resolutions. It has more to do with textures and shaders than resolution. Although upping the res on a texture heavy game seriously upps the v-ram usage. DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD!!!


    Here take a look at this http://techreport.com/reviews/2007q1/geforce-8800gts-320mb/index.x?pg=6

    The 320mb creams the 640 at a resolution of 2048 x 1536 so it is possible to run a game at high resolutions.

    Only it depends on what game , what processor and the exact specs of your rig .
  20. Quote:
    DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD!!!

    thanks for letting us know your needs, that was loud and clear - let me finish it for you:

    DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD... unless you play at 1280 or less.

    guru3d's review does a good job of comparing the 340's performance along with the older gen cards as well as the 640 & 768mb 8800s with many benchmarks. I read that then decided the 340mb was the best fps-per-dollar for my games & resolutions.

    Spreading FUD does not assist in a purchasing decision, giving the consumer the resources needed to make an educated decision based on their needs is much more beneficial.
  21. Quote:
    DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD!!!

    thanks for letting us know your needs, that was loud and clear - let me finish it for you:

    DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD... unless you play at 1280 or less.

    guru3d's review does a good job of comparing the 340's performance along with the older gen cards as well as the 640 & 768mb 8800s with many benchmarks. I read that then decided the 340mb was the best fps-per-dollar for my games & resolutions.

    Spreading FUD does not assist in a purchasing decision, giving the consumer the resources needed to make an educated decision based on their needs is much more beneficial.

    Well said , i salute you :trophy:
  22. Quote:
    Don't get the 320mb version!!!!! I have a link you will need to look at.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/7games-spring2007.html

    Seriously it has probs when at any res near 16x12 or more. I also heard STALKER uses 600 mb video memory at highest settings and it would cripple the 320mb version. Also many games use near 500mb of v-memory even at lower resolutions. It has more to do with textures and shaders than resolution. Although upping the res on a texture heavy game seriously upps the v-ram usage. DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD!!!


    Funny thing... i noticed that on page 3 the 8800GTS 640MB puts out 55FPS and 82FPS in Battlefield2142 at 1280x1024. Now turn to next page (page 4) and read the 320MB version of the 8800GTS. It gives 58 and 82.2FPS respectively! Not only it beats its 640MB bigger brother, but it performs on par with the 8800GTX!!! LOL! There is definately something wrong there!

    Two benchies almost never run exactly the same even on the exact same hardware. Also the guy wants to game at 1680x1050 which is very close to 16x12 which is the point in most of the benches show the 320mb version crapping out. So you guys are saying xbit are lying? I'm just trying to help the guy. 320mb is really not enough in this day and age, Crysis is said to use 500-700mb v-ram as well. It's only going to increase as time goes on. Spend the extra few lousy dollars and future proof yourself. This is not FUD but reality.
  23. Quote:
    DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD!!!

    thanks for letting us know your needs, that was loud and clear - let me finish it for you:

    DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD... unless you play at 1280 or less

    Spreading FUD does not assist in a purchasing decision, giving the consumer the resources needed to make an educated decision based on their needs is much more beneficial.

    If you would have read the thread you would know he is gaming at 1680x1050. Also was my link not resourceful enough to educate him? Your link better than mine for some reason?
  24. Quote:
    DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD!!!

    thanks for letting us know your needs, that was loud and clear - let me finish it for you:

    DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD... unless you play at 1280 or less.

    guru3d's review does a good job of comparing the 340's performance along with the older gen cards as well as the 640 & 768mb 8800s with many benchmarks. I read that then decided the 340mb was the best fps-per-dollar for my games & resolutions.

    Spreading FUD does not assist in a purchasing decision, giving the consumer the resources needed to make an educated decision based on their needs is much more beneficial.

    Well said , i salute you :trophy:

    get the 640 man it ownts, the 320 is gonna be put to shame with directx10 too
  25. Quote:
    DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD!!!

    thanks for letting us know your needs, that was loud and clear - let me finish it for you:

    DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD... unless you play at 1280 or less.

    guru3d's review does a good job of comparing the 340's performance along with the older gen cards as well as the 640 & 768mb 8800s with many benchmarks. I read that then decided the 340mb was the best fps-per-dollar for my games & resolutions.

    Spreading FUD does not assist in a purchasing decision, giving the consumer the resources needed to make an educated decision based on their needs is much more beneficial.

    Well said , i salute you :trophy:

    get the 640 man it ownts, the 320 is gonna be put to shame with directx10 too

    Yeah buddy and how do you know that :?

    :oops: just saw your name , sorry my fault you KNOW IT ALL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
  26. Quote:
    Don't get the 320mb version!!!!! I have a link you will need to look at.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/7games-spring2007.html

    Seriously it has probs when at any res near 16x12 or more. I also heard STALKER uses 600 mb video memory at highest settings and it would cripple the 320mb version. Also many games use near 500mb of v-memory even at lower resolutions. It has more to do with textures and shaders than resolution. Although upping the res on a texture heavy game seriously upps the v-ram usage. DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD!!!


    Lol funny review, according to it you should just get the GTX.
    And sorry 85%+ of all gamers you can't seem to play these games. =)
    Depending on the game the 320Mb was as good as the 640Mb and clearly beat the XTX("Premium" card), but are just a price/performance card.
    Seriously why put a game in the review that doesn't support one of the cards?
    The reviewers blames the card while Anandtech says
    Quote:
    Overall the game feels rushed, not in the storyline or gameplay necessarily, but in basic things like the interface and overall game stability. There are a lot of hardware incompatibilities which will leave some people, especially 8800 owners, with no current means to play the game after paying up their hard-earned money to buy it. It might be more understandable if the problems were with older-generation cards that were phased out, but on the 8800 - NVIDIA's flagship solution for highest performance - it's just not right.


    So it just up to believe what you think is most accurate, i for one don't trust xbitlabs benchies that much or their "objectivity". =/
  27. Gr8 time to flame ANAND TECH :lol: so i will that site is the donkeys
    balls :!: :!: :twisted:

    THIS FORUM RULEZ :twisted:
  28. Quote:
    Don't get the 320mb version!!!!! I have a link you will need to look at.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/7games-spring2007.html

    Seriously it has probs when at any res near 16x12 or more. I also heard STALKER uses 600 mb video memory at highest settings and it would cripple the 320mb version. Also many games use near 500mb of v-memory even at lower resolutions. It has more to do with textures and shaders than resolution. Although upping the res on a texture heavy game seriously upps the v-ram usage. DO NOT GET THE 320MB CARD!!!


    Funny thing... i noticed that on page 3 the 8800GTS 640MB puts out 55FPS and 82FPS in Battlefield2142 at 1280x1024. Now turn to next page (page 4) and read the 320MB version of the 8800GTS. It gives 58 and 82.2FPS respectively! Not only it beats its 640MB bigger brother, but it performs on par with the 8800GTX!!! LOL! There is definately something wrong there!

    That happens when you don't pay attention to things. You saw the results at 1280 and at 1600 where the results are similar in that game. At 1920 the 320Mb version gets smacked by the 640Mb one.

    Just search for another review with the same cards in GRAW, and the 320Mb version starts to cry soon at 1600 compared to the 640Mb.

    In a few games ( very few) where you crank 1600 and above with 4xAA, 16AF and HDR, the 320Mb are not enough.

    Just pick the card based on the games you play or based in your wallet.
  29. Good thing your mom told you to never go down, but does she?
  30. Thanks for the posts (and the flames I knew I was going to get). I am going with the 8800GTS 640, just to make sure I don't have problems later on, and I have the money.

    I am just a little stuck about the Monitor, but I will take it to that section!
  31. :D sorry about the flames but ya know it's all in good faith, and if we knew you couldn't handle it we wouldn't have done it. I do recommend the VG2230WM from Viewsonic, a decent price, 5ms response time and a good resolution 1650x1050. You won't be sorry with the 8800GTS640, that's what I have and I like it alot.
  32. I am looking at building a new system soon......This has helped me too.
    Thanks Guys. 8)
  33. youll probably want the 640mb for that high a resolution
  34. Quote:
    get the 640 man it ownts, the 320 is gonna be put to shame with directx10 too


    Quote:
    Yeah buddy and how do you know that :?

    :oops: just saw your name , sorry my fault you KNOW IT ALL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


    budyy i know that because of common sense. Directx10 = better graphics, more textures, more details, more colors/better colors. 640mb = more ram to store these details. Frekien newb
  35. Quote:
    get the 640 man it ownts, the 320 is gonna be put to shame with directx10 too


    Quote:
    Yeah buddy and how do you know that :?

    :oops: just saw your name , sorry my fault you KNOW IT ALL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


    budyy i know that because of common sense. Directx10 = better graphics, more textures, more details, more colors/better colors. 640mb = more ram to store these details. Frekien newb

    WOW i am sorry i offended you your highness :lol: new bie okay :lol: more colours hmm i didnt know we get more colours want to elaborate on that angle oh great one :lol: :lol: :lol: common sense is for commoners like us :lol: YOUR highness , not for the truly gifted like you :lol: :lol:
  36. The EVGA 8800gts 320 will support up to 2560X1600 resolution so no need to move up to the 640 version,unless you want to.But that is a matter of personal preference.

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  37. Quote:
    get the 640 man it ownts, the 320 is gonna be put to shame with directx10 too


    Quote:
    Yeah buddy and how do you know that :?

    :oops: just saw your name , sorry my fault you KNOW IT ALL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


    budyy i know that because of common sense. Directx10 = better graphics, more textures, more details, more colors/better colors. 640mb = more ram to store these details. Frekien newb

    WOW i am sorry i offended you your highness :lol: new bie okay :lol: more colours hmm i didnt know we get more colours want to elaborate on that angle oh great one :lol: :lol: :lol: common sense is for commoners like us :lol: YOUR highness , not for the truly gifted like you :lol: :lol:

    Grow up dude seriously. and also...
  38. Does anyone know what the 320 can handle on F.E.A.R until it starts to struggle?
  39. Quote:
    Does anyone know what the 320 can handle on F.E.A.R until it starts to struggle?


    I don't know what you mean, but on fear the 320 gets less ~10 fps than the 640 at 1600x1200 4AA 16Af and it drops below 30 in some fighting scenes.

    But remember it's with all maxed out. Forget transparency AA with that settings and resolutions.
  40. Would you really even care that much about 4AA at 1600x1200? I think 2AA would be good enough, and it'd give you better FPS.
  41. Ok, since everyone having a good time, giving me advice, making fun of me, etc.

    Money isn't a huge object, as I am funding this with my Poker Winnings (been on a roll as of late).

    How much of a jump up in preformance would I be getting going from the 8800 GTS 640 to the 8800 GTX?
  42. Quote:

    How much of a jump up in preformance would I be getting going from the 8800 GTS 640 to the 8800 GTX?


    Please! There are hundreds of reviews on the web. Move that lazy ass and search!
  43. I am not looking for raw numbers, I am asking for opinions, bang for the buck, and future proofing myself, and ideas about waiting for the newer cards to be introduced and price cuts.
  44. There is no such thing as future proofing. Buy the best performer. It will always perform better than the others. Think for yourself and read the reviews.
  45. Ill grow up as soon as you STFU -retard :lol: :twisted: Dont give advice if you haven't got a clue yourself .

    SMDAH :twisted:
  46. Quote:
    get the 640 man it ownts, the 320 is gonna be put to shame with directx10 too


    Quote:
    Yeah buddy and how do you know that :?

    :oops: just saw your name , sorry my fault you KNOW IT ALL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


    budyy i know that because of common sense. Directx10 = better graphics, more textures, more details, more colors/better colors. 640mb = more ram to store these details. Frekien newb

    I don't know who's the newb here. DX10= better graphics, more textures and more details in the same amount of space or even less (Mb).

    I believe the upcoming games will use even more space than the actual, but is not because they will be DX10. So, if you don't have a clue of what you are talking about, you better be polite.
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