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I'm running Skype on my hp ipaq h4150.
It works fine on my end, but the user on the other end ends up hearing
him/herself.
It seems that 'audio in' is not limited to the microphone, but also all
audio coming out of the device.
That makes it pretty unusuable or at least very annoying. Even with echo
cancellation on (which seems to simply turn communication into half-duplex).
There seems to be a bluetooth headset available, however, I am more
interested in a bluetooth headset WITH MICROPHONE, similar to that of a
mobile phone.. (better yet, a box that handles full duplex bluetooth
communication, into which you can plug any microphone headset).. does such
headset exist?
I understand that mobile phone headsets can not work with pocket pc.. is
this simply because there are no drivers available (and somebody needs to
just write them) or is there some issue with the bluetooth stack that
prevents such full duplex communication? I think I heard something to that
extent.
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Not being able to use a Bluetooth headset is not true across all PPCs. The
current Dells have a Handsfree/Headset profile standard. Some HPs did have
the correct BT stack bits, but had the profile disabled in the registry.
That just took a registry edit to expose the profile in the manager. Some
HPs just didn't have the right bits. Unfortunately I think the 4150 is one
of those. The 4150 is also not blessed with any sort of mic input. The Dell
X50, the HP4700, and some others have a headphone jack that also supports a
mic input that is very useful for VoIP things like Skype.
I think your only reasonable option is to use headphones to listen and the
built in mic to talk. I've done that with Skype on a 4155 and it works quite
well.
"Lisa Pearlson" <no@spam.plz> wrote in message
news:edsGV5dfFHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I'm running Skype on my hp ipaq h4150.
>
> It works fine on my end, but the user on the other end ends up hearing
> him/herself.
> It seems that 'audio in' is not limited to the microphone, but also all
> audio coming out of the device.
>
> That makes it pretty unusuable or at least very annoying. Even with echo
> cancellation on (which seems to simply turn communication into
half-duplex).
>
> There seems to be a bluetooth headset available, however, I am more
> interested in a bluetooth headset WITH MICROPHONE, similar to that of a
> mobile phone.. (better yet, a box that handles full duplex bluetooth
> communication, into which you can plug any microphone headset).. does such
> headset exist?
>
> I understand that mobile phone headsets can not work with pocket pc.. is
> this simply because there are no drivers available (and somebody needs to
> just write them) or is there some issue with the bluetooth stack that
> prevents such full duplex communication? I think I heard something to that
> extent.
>
> Lisa
>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc (More info?)
I didn't think wearing a headset helped with the echo thing. Not me, but the
person on the other end is the one hearing themselves because my pocket pc's
audio out gets sent back to them. I thought I tried, but maybe I'm mistaken,
will try again.
"Sven" <sejohannsen@hotmai.com> wrote in message
news:%23M66QOefFHA.572@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Not being able to use a Bluetooth headset is not true across all PPCs. The
> current Dells have a Handsfree/Headset profile standard. Some HPs did
> have
> the correct BT stack bits, but had the profile disabled in the registry.
> That just took a registry edit to expose the profile in the manager. Some
> HPs just didn't have the right bits. Unfortunately I think the 4150 is one
> of those. The 4150 is also not blessed with any sort of mic input. The
> Dell
> X50, the HP4700, and some others have a headphone jack that also supports
> a
> mic input that is very useful for VoIP things like Skype.
>
> I think your only reasonable option is to use headphones to listen and the
> built in mic to talk. I've done that with Skype on a 4155 and it works
> quite
> well.
>
> "Lisa Pearlson" <no@spam.plz> wrote in message
> news:edsGV5dfFHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> I'm running Skype on my hp ipaq h4150.
>>
>> It works fine on my end, but the user on the other end ends up hearing
>> him/herself.
>> It seems that 'audio in' is not limited to the microphone, but also all
>> audio coming out of the device.
>>
>> That makes it pretty unusuable or at least very annoying. Even with echo
>> cancellation on (which seems to simply turn communication into
> half-duplex).
>>
>> There seems to be a bluetooth headset available, however, I am more
>> interested in a bluetooth headset WITH MICROPHONE, similar to that of a
>> mobile phone.. (better yet, a box that handles full duplex bluetooth
>> communication, into which you can plug any microphone headset).. does
>> such
>> headset exist?
>>
>> I understand that mobile phone headsets can not work with pocket pc.. is
>> this simply because there are no drivers available (and somebody needs to
>> just write them) or is there some issue with the bluetooth stack that
>> prevents such full duplex communication? I think I heard something to
>> that
>> extent.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>>
>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc (More info?)
"Lisa Pearlson" <no@spam.plz> wrote in message
newsofaOaefFHA.3904@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> I didn't think wearing a headset helped with the echo thing. Not me, but
the
> person on the other end is the one hearing themselves because my pocket
pc's
> audio out gets sent back to them. I thought I tried, but maybe I'm
mistaken,
> will try again.
If you wear a headset then it will disable the speaker on your
end and so it cannot feedback into the mic and they SHOULD
not hear themselves due to this problem.
The other day I was Skyping with a user who claimed to be
wearing a headset yet I was able to hear myself (not as loudly
or badly as with an open speaker system.)
This result remains unconfirmed but I was very surprised and
have not yet figured out where such an echo might be introduced.
> "Sven" <sejohannsen@hotmai.com> wrote in message
> news:%23M66QOefFHA.572@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Not being able to use a Bluetooth headset is not true across all PPCs.
The
> > current Dells have a Handsfree/Headset profile standard. Some HPs did
> > have
> > the correct BT stack bits, but had the profile disabled in the registry.
> > That just took a registry edit to expose the profile in the manager.
Some
> > HPs just didn't have the right bits. Unfortunately I think the 4150 is
one
> > of those. The 4150 is also not blessed with any sort of mic input. The
> > Dell
> > X50, the HP4700, and some others have a headphone jack that also
supports
> > a
> > mic input that is very useful for VoIP things like Skype.
> >
> > I think your only reasonable option is to use headphones to listen and
the
> > built in mic to talk. I've done that with Skype on a 4155 and it works
> > quite
> > well.
> >
> > "Lisa Pearlson" <no@spam.plz> wrote in message
> > news:edsGV5dfFHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> I'm running Skype on my hp ipaq h4150.
> >>
> >> It works fine on my end, but the user on the other end ends up hearing
> >> him/herself.
> >> It seems that 'audio in' is not limited to the microphone, but also all
> >> audio coming out of the device.
> >>
> >> That makes it pretty unusuable or at least very annoying. Even with
echo
> >> cancellation on (which seems to simply turn communication into
> > half-duplex).
> >>
> >> There seems to be a bluetooth headset available, however, I am more
> >> interested in a bluetooth headset WITH MICROPHONE, similar to that of a
> >> mobile phone.. (better yet, a box that handles full duplex bluetooth
> >> communication, into which you can plug any microphone headset).. does
> >> such
> >> headset exist?
> >>
> >> I understand that mobile phone headsets can not work with pocket pc..
is
> >> this simply because there are no drivers available (and somebody needs
to
> >> just write them) or is there some issue with the bluetooth stack that
> >> prevents such full duplex communication? I think I heard something to
> >> that
> >> extent.
> >>
> >> Lisa
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc (More info?)
I've always got the best results when both parties were using headsets when
using Skype. More so if they were both portable devices.
"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in message
news:eFMywskfFHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> "Lisa Pearlson" <no@spam.plz> wrote in message
> newsofaOaefFHA.3904@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > I didn't think wearing a headset helped with the echo thing. Not me, but
> the
> > person on the other end is the one hearing themselves because my pocket
> pc's
> > audio out gets sent back to them. I thought I tried, but maybe I'm
> mistaken,
> > will try again.
>
> If you wear a headset then it will disable the speaker on your
> end and so it cannot feedback into the mic and they SHOULD
> not hear themselves due to this problem.
>
> The other day I was Skyping with a user who claimed to be
> wearing a headset yet I was able to hear myself (not as loudly
> or badly as with an open speaker system.)
>
> This result remains unconfirmed but I was very surprised and
> have not yet figured out where such an echo might be introduced.
>
>
> --
> Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
> Accelerated MCSE
> http://www.LearnQuick.Com > [phone number on web site]
>
> > "Sven" <sejohannsen@hotmai.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23M66QOefFHA.572@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > Not being able to use a Bluetooth headset is not true across all PPCs.
> The
> > > current Dells have a Handsfree/Headset profile standard. Some HPs did
> > > have
> > > the correct BT stack bits, but had the profile disabled in the
registry.
> > > That just took a registry edit to expose the profile in the manager.
> Some
> > > HPs just didn't have the right bits. Unfortunately I think the 4150 is
> one
> > > of those. The 4150 is also not blessed with any sort of mic input.
The
> > > Dell
> > > X50, the HP4700, and some others have a headphone jack that also
> supports
> > > a
> > > mic input that is very useful for VoIP things like Skype.
> > >
> > > I think your only reasonable option is to use headphones to listen and
> the
> > > built in mic to talk. I've done that with Skype on a 4155 and it works
> > > quite
> > > well.
> > >
> > > "Lisa Pearlson" <no@spam.plz> wrote in message
> > > news:edsGV5dfFHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > >> I'm running Skype on my hp ipaq h4150.
> > >>
> > >> It works fine on my end, but the user on the other end ends up
hearing
> > >> him/herself.
> > >> It seems that 'audio in' is not limited to the microphone, but also
all
> > >> audio coming out of the device.
> > >>
> > >> That makes it pretty unusuable or at least very annoying. Even with
> echo
> > >> cancellation on (which seems to simply turn communication into
> > > half-duplex).
> > >>
> > >> There seems to be a bluetooth headset available, however, I am more
> > >> interested in a bluetooth headset WITH MICROPHONE, similar to that of
a
> > >> mobile phone.. (better yet, a box that handles full duplex bluetooth
> > >> communication, into which you can plug any microphone headset).. does
> > >> such
> > >> headset exist?
> > >>
> > >> I understand that mobile phone headsets can not work with pocket pc..
> is
> > >> this simply because there are no drivers available (and somebody
needs
> to
> > >> just write them) or is there some issue with the bluetooth stack that
> > >> prevents such full duplex communication? I think I heard something to
> > >> that
> > >> extent.
> > >>
> > >> Lisa
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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