8800 GTS poor performance ????

Well my sistem is listet in my sig so dont need to write all again.
Is it true that im having slow fps or is it that much ppl lie about
their performance.
Maybe its because i have only 1GB of ddr2 but i hope to get the
answer here.

A little overview:
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. runs at 1024x768 all max without aa or af @ 40 fps
FEAR runs at preety much same max settings witout aa or af @ 1024x768 @ 40-50fps

In 3dmark 06 i get 7240 3dmarks when all settings are at stock but when i
overclock the processor (from 1,86 to 2,97Ghz) i get around 8300 3dmarks.

I expected a little bit more of performance because i see lots of ppl talking
about they running games above 80fps...

Like i said maybe i need 1 gb more of ram so that would be a jump to
where my sis. actually belongs. Hope to get the answer here

Thx to all who help. I appreciate it

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Logitech G5
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Reply to Armanox

Getting a second gig of ram will help.But you need to make sure all the settings in your mb bios are set properly.Also you need to make sure that you install the graphics drivers with your anti-virus disabled.If you do not disable the anti-virus,then the graphics drivers do not configure properly and you end up with poor performance numbers sometimes system crashes as well.Basically uninstall graphics drivers.Reboot system into safe mode.Then install the graphics drivers.Reboot again,this time normally,then run 3dmark again and try running games and see if it helps improve performance for you.Goodluck.P.S.Return that lead weight you have and purchase either a BFG 8800gts or an EVGA 8800gts.

Dahak

AMD X2-4400+@2.6 TOLEDO
EVGA NF4 SLI MB
2X EVGA 7950GT KO IN SLI
4X 512MB CRUCIAL BALLISTIX DDR500
WD300GIG HD/SAMSUNG 250GIG HD
ACER 22IN WIDESCREEN LCD 1600X1200
THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER 850WATT PSU
COOLERMASTER MINI R120
3DMARK05 13,471

Reply to Dahak

Also make sure you don't have the hardware VSync turned on in the NV control panel. It basically tries to limit the card to only put out the same FPS as the refresh rate of your monitor.

Reply to T8RR8R

@Dahak i installed the newest drivers without any antivirus so that isnt the problem

and @ T8RR8R my monitor runs at 1280x1024@100Hz so it could be possible to run to 100fps even with VS enabled...

Where can i find the properly settings for my bios? Its now at default settings and i didnt change anything...

I hope to get this fixed, but seems to me that actually this is the performace this sys can do. Can it be that others a lying about the fps or am i stuck with my wrong bios settings?

Reply to Armanox

Or can it be that my sistem is underpowered with a low budget 400W PSU that came with the Codegen Briza ??? ???

I am low on money now, but want to know what to buy next month. Thx to all who help, i hope someone with more exp than me will know what to do

Reply to Armanox

OH ouch.Buy another power supply dude.Get at least 550watt with 30amps on the 12volt rail,minimum.

Dahak

AMD X2-4400+@2.6 TOLEDO
EVGA NF4 SLI MB
2X EVGA 7950GT KO IN SLI
4X 512MB CRUCIAL BALLISTIX DDR500
WD300GIG HD/SAMSUNG 250GIG HD
ACER 22IN WIDESCREEN LCD 1600X1200
THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER 850WATT PSU
COOLERMASTER MINI R120
3DMARK05 13,471

Reply to Dahak

Quote :

my monitor runs at 1280x1024@100Hz so it could be possible to run to 100fps even with VS enabled

True dat...truuuuuuue dat.

Reply to T8RR8R

Quote :

OH ouch.Buy another power supply dude.Get at least 550watt with 30amps on the 12volt rail,minimum.

Dahak

Can u tell me some models that are good enough?

Reply to Armanox

1024x768 on a 21" CRT with a GF8800! That's a shame. 8O

Can't speak fro stalker as I haven't installed it yet, but you should be getting way better performance in Fear.

Reply to pauldh

Quote :

1024x768 on a 21" CRT with a GF8800! That's a shame. 8O

Can't speak fro stalker as I haven't installed it yet, but you should be getting way better performance in Fear.

Well im still trying to figure out why... u are not much of a help.

And do other ppl agree with that i need a better psu?

Reply to Armanox

what are specs of the psu (the amp readings)???

400 does seem low, but if the +12V rail has 28-30 amps, then it would run fine.

I run my system on a 380 watt psu (e6600, 2gigs ram, x1950 pro, 250 ghb hdd, 5 case fans), but its a good make

im not sure if the 8800gts requires the same or more power, but a new psu would definitely not harm you in any way.

But yeah, your in game scores seem quite low indeed. I can get any where from 70-350 fps in fear while running around a map in multiplayer.

you are using windows xp right??

Reply to blade85

Thermaltake,Antec,Acepower,....etc...There are several makes and models to chose from.You don't particularily need high wattage,just high amperage.At least 30amps on the 12volt rail.But at least 500watts.I would go higher to be safe.Just a little bit.Goodluck.

Dahak

AMD X2-4400+@2.6 TOLEDO
EVGA NF4 SLI MB
2X EVGA 7950GT KO IN SLI
4X 512MB CRUCIAL BALLISTIX DDR500
WD300GIG HD/SAMSUNG 250GIG HD
ACER 22IN WIDESCREEN LCD 1600X1200
THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER 850WATT PSU
COOLERMASTER MINI R120
3DMARK05 13,471

Reply to Dahak

Did you post this question in the FEAR Tech forums ? If so I answered it there.

If you are like me and some other people the problem is with the G5/7/11/15 Mice and keyboard and FEAR
http://forums.vugames.com/thread.j [...] tstart=45.

For me (G15), It's only really noticeable under Vista (both 32 and 64), but you can see a little of it with XP and in games like Doom3 and HL2, but the affects aren't nearly as bad as Vista and FEAR. (From 120-130 to 39-50) even settign FEAR t the lowest settings, the results barely change.

Easy test is to grab a cheapo PS2 mouse and unplug the G5. In my case, all I have to do is unplug the keyboard and my framerates triple.

According to people who spoke with Viendi's Tech Support, it's something with the way FEAR interacts with the USB ports and demands pure performance. I dunno. All I know is if I have the KB plugged into any USB port it kills performance and that KB won't work the the PS2 port. I have the Logitech meda Keyboard and can plug into the same ports and it works fine.

Reply to mad_murdock

Quote :

Well my sistem is listet in my sig so dont need to write all again.
Is it true that im having slow fps or is it that much ppl lie about
their performance.
Maybe its because i have only 1GB of ddr2 but i hope to get the
answer here.

A little overview:
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. runs at 1024x768 all max without aa or af @ 40 fps
FEAR runs at preety much same max settings witout aa or af @ 1024x768 @ 40-50fps

In 3dmark 06 i get 7240 3dmarks when all settings are at stock but when i
overclock the processor (from 1,86 to 2,97Ghz) i get around 8300 3dmarks.

I expected a little bit more of performance because i see lots of ppl talking
about they running games above 80fps...

Like i said maybe i need 1 gb more of ram so that would be a jump to
where my sis. actually belongs. Hope to get the answer here

Thx to all who help. I appreciate it

u know...my rig is like this:
E6400(stock)
2gb low performance ram 667 5-5-5-15
8800gts 640mb
asus p5nsli
320gb hdd
17' - 1280 x 1024
purepower 250w thermaltake dedicated ps GPU
thermaltake 430w

got 7800 3dmark 06
after mild oc to 2.66mhz got 8300
smooth FEAR n stalker with all max setting 8aa 16anis

well i suggest you to try putting 2gb ram n see ur 3d06 mark

from my opinion ur 3d06 mark is normal,because my fren have rig like this:
PD 3.0 stock
1gb 533 ram
320gb hdd
leadtek 8800gts 320mb

n his score 3dmark06 is 6800...

Reply to kdinx

Quote :

Well my sistem is listet in my sig so dont need to write all again.
Is it true that im having slow fps or is it that much ppl lie about
their performance.
Maybe its because i have only 1GB of ddr2 but i hope to get the
answer here.

A little overview:
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. runs at 1024x768 all max without aa or af @ 40 fps
FEAR runs at preety much same max settings witout aa or af @ 1024x768 @ 40-50fps

In 3dmark 06 i get 7240 3dmarks when all settings are at stock but when i
overclock the processor (from 1,86 to 2,97Ghz) i get around 8300 3dmarks.

I expected a little bit more of performance because i see lots of ppl talking
about they running games above 80fps...

Like i said maybe i need 1 gb more of ram so that would be a jump to
where my sis. actually belongs. Hope to get the answer here

Thx to all who help. I appreciate it

You need a better PSU and is your CPU overclocked at all?

Reply to RobsX2

My cpu is stock because if i overclock it i consumes even more power, right?

My readings of the psu are

3,3V ... 5,5V ... +12V ... -5V ... -12V ... +5V
----- ... ----- ... ------ ... ----- ... ------ ... -------
20A ... 25A ... 16A .... 0,5A ... 0,8A ... 2A

under the 3,3V and 5,5V is a value of 160W MAX

under +12V is nothing just a stupid line

under -5V and -12V is a value of 9,6W MAX

and under the last +5V is again nothing just a line

------------------------------------------------------------------
last value is under everything & says 400W

My cam is broken, i would post a pic...

Anyone got smarter after this readings?

Reply to Armanox

Quote :

My cpu is stock because if i overclock it i consumes even more power, right?

My readings of the psu are

3,3V ... 5,5V ... +12V ... -5V ... -12V ... +5V
----- ... ----- ... ------ ... ----- ... ------ ... -------
20A ... 25A ... 16A .... 0,5A ... 0,8A ... 2A

Ok two things are holding your performance back in a big way.

#1 get a new PSU asap and preferably one with a stout single 12V rail. Stay away from dual Rail psu's as they are poorly optimized for a power hungry system, one of the 12v rails ends up being wasted on the CPU alone and then the other 12v rail is left to feed your other components along with your GPU which will often result in overloading the 2nd rail. I went through these pains and headaches when I first started building so I know what I am talking about.

#2 A stock E6300 at 1.8ghz will hold your G80 back in a big way, especially at the low resolution you are gaming at.

Get a decent PSU and then we will talk about overclocking your CPU. You can trust me as I have built about 10 gaming rigs so far and my most recent being a SLI'd 8800GTX rig with an E6400 sitting at 3.4ghz. :wink:

Here is a link to one that I highly recommend, sure you can get cheaper ones but its stupid to overlook the most important part of your computer which is the PSU. I can promise you that plenty of nooblets here will try to get you to purchase some cheap ass $50 psu but just ignore the kids as they dont know any better.

In the long run you end up saving more $$$ by getting the proper PSU in the first place because you will find yourself being able to hold on to the PSU longer when you upgrade vs having to purchase yet another cheap psu just to skim by.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817163111

Reply to RobsX2

Quote :

FEAR runs at preety much same max settings witout aa or af @ 1024x768 @ 40-50fps

Trust me when I tell you that is horrible. When you get a decent psu I will help you get things running the way they should be running.

Reply to RobsX2

the amps on your +12v rail is way too low.

you really need a new psu aswell.

Reply to blade85

Well, I agree getting a better PSU is ideal. But Shouldn't he be getting some Crashes to Desktops or BSODs or something other than slow performance in FEAR ?

Also, If I can run FEAR with a AMD 4800+ and X1900XTX and get over 100FPS with all settings to MAX. Why would a E6300 and 8800 perform worse ? He's 1200 points higher in 3Dmark06 then I am

Granted this review is using a QX6800 Cpu, but the X1950XTX is only runnig about 10 fps faster than my X1900XTX, which tells me the CPU isn't that big of a deal in FEAR, at least for the benchamrk
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/0 [...] page6.html

Sure the E6300 won't totally feed the 8800, but he should be getting alot better. Plus he noted in his post he's already push that puppy to 2.9Ghz and gt a 8300 on 3dmark06

Reply to mad_murdock

Quote :

the amps on your +12v rail is way too low.

you really need a new psu aswell.

He is taking a major risk just by powering up his PC with that psu. You can permanently damage your components with a weak psu like that. If it was me I would not even power it on again until I replaced the PSU.

Reply to RobsX2

Quote :

Well, I agree getting a better PSU is ideal. But Shouldn't he be getting some Crashes to Desktops or BSODs or something other than slow performance in FEAR ?

Under performing as badly as he is in gaming is one of the signs of a underpowered PSU. His psu cannot provide the power his GPU needs therefore resulting in poor gaming performance.

An underpowered PSU will not always result in crashes or bsod's, if he is not careful he could instead experience an instant shut down from overloading his psu which could in turn take his entire system out with it.

Quote :

Also, If I can run FEAR with a AMD 4800+ and X1900XTX and get over 100FPS with all settings to MAX. Why would a E6300 and 8800 perform worse ? He's 1200 points higher in 3Dmark06 then I am

Your not underpowered by your PSU the way he is. Once he gets a better PSU and OC's his cpu a bit he will blows the doors off of fear. And as for 3dmark06 its just a synthetic benchmark and does not really reference to gaming performance.

His GPU recommends a PSU with at least 26-30 amps on the 12v rail. He has roughly half of that so its really a no brainer.

If he continues to play games with that 16amp psu of his I can guarantee you that he will fuk up his system, its just a matter of time.

Reply to RobsX2

OMG please dont tell me to turn my pc off and wait for about 1month to buy a new PSU.

I hope i get some money asap and get a better psu, but since i live in croatia my choice is limited to a smaller number of psu-s, and they cost much more then in your countires.

I searched for any psu with more than 30A on a 12V rail and the cheapest one i found is 121€.

Its not easy for me to collect such an amount of money since ive spend all on the other components :cry: :cry: :cry:

Reply to Armanox

Well, I'll have to take you're word for it, as I never ran with an under power PSU.

I would just expect more stange behavior from a system that lacks power, espeically when he's overclocking.

Again, if he's PSU specs are right, he's way under powered. Which is why I would expect to hear more of, system crashes, Porn doesn't play right etc etc.

Reply to mad_murdock

Quote :

OMG please dont tell me to turn my pc off and wait for about 1month to buy a new PSU.

I hope i get some money asap and get a better psu, but since i live in croatia my choice is limited to a smaller number of psu-s, and they cost much more then in your countires.

I searched for any psu with more than 30A on a 12V rail and the cheapest one i found is 121€.

Its not easy for me to collect such an amount of money since ive spend all on the other components :cry: :cry: :cry:

I feel your pain and I am sorry that you are having to learn a hard lesson. You just cannot run high end components with an underpowered PSU.

If you have to turn off your PC for a month before getting a decent PSU then so be it, its better than having to replace your expensive GPU and other components when your 16amp psu goes Kaboom.

Reply to RobsX2

Quote :

Well, I'll have to take you're word for it, as I never ran with an under power PSU.

I would just expect more stange behavior from a system that lacks power, espeically when he's overclocking.

Again, if he's PSU specs are right, he's way under powered. Which is why I would expect to hear more of, system crashes, Porn doesn't play right etc etc.

Like I said, give it time. He may eventually get bsod's and crashes then again he might not get any of those but instead get the infamous sudden death of his psu with a nice abrupt sudden system shutdown and never to be powered on again because his components are toast.

Running a 16amp psu with a GPU that recommends a psu of 26-30amps is just crazy and dangerous.

Reply to RobsX2

Oh geez a 16A PSU trying to power a 8800? 8O You should definitely get a new PSU as soon as you can.

Until then though, you could just find the cheapest graphics card there is so you can at least use your computer (although not for games) until you can get a new PSU. Maybe you could get one used from a computer store for a few €? It doesn't even have to be PCI Express, it can just be some lousy PCI card. Just a thought.

Reply to jeff_2087

Quote :

Oh geez a 16A PSU trying to power a 8800? 8O You should definitely get a new PSU as soon as you can.

Until then though, you could just find the cheapest graphics card there is so you can at least use your computer (although not for games) until you can get a new PSU. Maybe you could get one used from a computer store for a few €? It doesn't even have to be PCI Express, it can just be some lousy PCI card. Just a thought.

Good idea jeff.

Reply to RobsX2

Thank u all guys im definitly gonna try to find one shitty graphic card... till i get my new psu.

I will shut down my sistem and wait till i have some money for a decent psu.

Im gonna check here every day... since i have a celeron (lol) at my office.

Again thx to everyone who helped.

Who knows maybe i would lost my comp. without u guys. Thx 10000 times

Reply to Armanox

Here is the power supply that I bought for my rig-
I have an 8800gts 640mb with all the bells and whistles and mine doesnt skip a beat.
Its an Enermax Noisetaker EG495P-VE SFMA ATX 12V Ver2.0 485W Power Supply. Adjustable cooling fan, independent 12v rails, and it's an Enermax... cant go wrong. $80 US

Heres the link on Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817103457

Reply to DJ_Jumbles

I say poohie on Enermax ! Actually, that was the first brand of PSUs I ever bought.

But in order to say "Can't go wrong", then you can only mention the PC Powering and cooling line of PSUs. Where else can you spend $500 on a PSU ? And there is just something about saying "I got a kilowatt" that drives all the girls wild !

Not that it would be a cleaner solution, but couldn't he use one of those external power units ? I know one of the big names where selling them

Reply to mad_murdock

Quote :

But in order to say "Can't go wrong", then you can only mention the PC Powering and cooling line of PSUs. Where else can you spend $500 on a PSU ? And there is just something about saying "I got a kilowatt" that drives all the girls wild !

I have lots of love for pcpowercooling :wink: There is a good reason that they cost a bit more than other brands and that is due to unbeatable quality and stability. Its the only brand psu I even purchase anymore. I paid $199 for my 750watt psu with 60amps on a single 12v rail and its powering both my 8800GTX's overclocked and my E6400@3.4ghz without even breaking a sweat. 8)

There are really only 3 brands I would choose from, not that there is anything wrong with other brands but I tend to choose psu's from manufactures that have a good track record.

1. Pcpowercooling
2. Silverstone
3. Enermax

Reply to RobsX2

I got ripped, I paid $240 my my 510-deluxe back a few years ago ! Maybe I had a bad one, but I wound up taking it out because it made this high pitch sound, and it didn't have a PCI-E connector (which later I found an adapter for)

Here is the external PSU I was thinking of.

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/prod [...] /w0099.asp

Reply to mad_murdock

Quote :

I got ripped, I paid $240 my my 510-deluxe back a few years ago ! Maybe I had a bad one, but I wound up taking it out because it made this high pitch sound, and it didn't have a PCI-E connector (which later I found an adapter for)

One thing about pcpowercooling as of recent is that there pricing is much more competitive now. Yes back a few years ago the cost was ridiculous but things have gotten more competitive for them so they had to start coming down on prices.

$199 for a 750watt pcpowercooling with a single 60amp rail is not bad at all.

Here is another good single rail from pcpowercooling for a good price-

610 continuous watts and 49 amps on the single rail.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703005

Quote :

Here is the external PSU I was thinking of.

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/prod [...] /w0099.asp

I used to think this was a good idea but from the feedback I get from people your much better off getting a good solid psu to do the job rather than adding in one of these bay psu's.

From my understanding they add a lot of unnecessary heat inside of the case.

Reply to RobsX2

http://forums.vugames.com/thread.j [...] &tstart=15
Try this. It helped me by 2000 points in 3dmark06. I have a g5 mouse.

Reply to soulreavernl

Quote :

http://forums.vugames.com/thread.j [...] &tstart=15
Try this. It helped me by 2000 points in 3dmark06. I have a g5 mouse.

Please read the thread before posting so you can at least comprehend what is going on.

Reply to RobsX2

Scuse me! Just too many tabs open,clicked the wrong one. Too eager to help

Reply to soulreavernl

well Soul, I'd give you credit, but I posted that fix back on the first page. I have the G15 keyboard and have that problem. Though I'll have to run the 3dmark06 test again, I don't recall it making any real difference. Definitely not 2000 points worth.

RobX2, I think the External PSU's where looking good, before all the 650-800+ psu started coming out. And I think when they were first introduced it was a cheaper upgrade then what was available from places like PCPnC. Depending what video card\CPU, I get next, I'm probably going to go the 750W route. I really like the sound of 1KW, but $500 is a tough pill to swallow

Reply to mad_murdock

Quote :

I really like the sound of 1KW, but $500 is a tough pill to swallow

If I ever get a 1kw PSU it will be this one from Silverstone for $345.99 and it has 80amps on a single 12 rail :wink:

No need to pay $500+ when this one is probably just as good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817256010

I have owned silverstone psu's in the past and they are right up there with pcpowercooling.

Reply to RobsX2

Quote :

I can promise you that plenty of nooblets here will try to get you to purchase some cheap ass $50 psu but just ignore the kids as they dont know any better.

Don't think I didn't hear that. :wink:

I have a similar setup as the OP and I was using a $50 Ultra 500w PSU which did have 28 amps max on a single 12v rail. But Robsx2's hemming and hawing (in a prior thread) did finally convince me to upgrade to a Seasonic-built unit. Haven't noticed a bit of difference since my system was already stable, but I'll admit he's right that peace of mind is worth something too.

EDIT- more detail

Reply to carver_g

I have one of those. That Ultra 500w is a good, relatively cheap PSU with some nice juice on the 12v.

I've read a couple reviews of it before buying a while back and don't remember anything negative about them. Never had problems with mine, either.

Still, the Ultra name brand is not associated with the finest quality. But it's been good to me so far, so I won't complain.

Reply to Cleeve

Quote :

I have one of those. That Ultra 500w is a good, relatively cheap PSU with some nice juice on the 12v.

I've read a couple reviews of it before buying a while back and don't remember anything negative about them. Never had problems with mine, either.

Still, the Ultra name brand is not associated with the finest quality. But it's been good to me so far, so I won't complain.

That's exactly my thoughts on the Ultra. But hey, the Seasonic/Antec was only $40 after rebate at CompUSA (normally $95 at Newegg) so I thought what the heck.

I must add I'm very impressed with the efficiency of the 80+ models. My Kill-a-watt readings went from 255 watts down to 220 during heavy gaming with the new unit. I don't know if that's because the 80+ unit is that efficient or the Ultra was just that inefficient. Probably a bit of both, but regardless, much more that I anticipated.

Edit- the power readings given were with the CPU running at stock speed, not the 2.7 that's in my sig.

Reply to carver_g

Quote :

Well im still trying to figure out why... u are not much of a help.

And do other ppl agree with that i need a better psu?

You know, I had about two minutes to respond this morning and I was stating the obvious while confirming you are getting less gaming experience than you should with such a nice setup. I knew others with more time would offer help and no harm was meant in the comment.

You should definately get a better PSU for that system, but too little power causes crashes and instability not low framerates. Your CPU, HDD and Optical drives, 8800GTS, and case fans are all pulling off that wimpy 12v rail and I agree with other people, your nuts running such expensive power hungry components on that Power supply.

Reply to pauldh

Quote :

You should definately get a better PSU for that system, but too little power causes crashes and instability not low framerates. Your CPU, HDD and Optical drives, 8800GTS, and case fans are all pulling off that wimpy 12v rail and I agree with other people, your nuts running such expensive power hungry components on that Power supply.

Wanna make a bet? I have seen first hand how an underpowered PSU can affect gaming performance and FPS. If a high end GPU like a G80 is being starved for power then it will underperform.

In some occasions the GPU's will not even run at there full clock speeds when being underpowered.

Reply to RobsX2

Quote :

Under performing as badly as he is in gaming is one of the signs of a underpowered PSU.

I must say, I am very surprised to see you post that. Can you provide a link that supports this? I honestly doubt it. Seems to be more the mis or un-informed understanding of noobs not that of someone who's been around like you. No offense meant man, I'd just be extremely curious and interested to look over those findings. Power supplies are mega important and can cause or sorts of issues yes, but low framerates on a stable system?

Reply to pauldh

Quote :

You should definately get a better PSU for that system, but too little power causes crashes and instability not low framerates. Your CPU, HDD and Optical drives, 8800GTS, and case fans are all pulling off that wimpy 12v rail and I agree with other people, your nuts running such expensive power hungry components on that Power supply.

Wanna make a bet? I have seen first hand how an underpowered PSU can affect gaming performance and FPS. If a high end GPU like a G80 is being starved for power then it will underperform.

In some occasions the GPU's will not even run at there full clock speeds when being underpowered.

*Sorry there, Crossing replies... didn't see this*

Seriously, You have tested this yourself? Like swapping in a better power supply made a stable system perform alot better? Tell me more. That's honestly very interesting Rob.

I've read quite a bit over the years and have probably a couple hundred builds going for myself over these years, and have never personally seen such a thing nor heard/read it from any credible source. Honestly, I find it facinating and would love to see a test of this.

Reply to pauldh

Quote :

You should definately get a better PSU for that system, but too little power causes crashes and instability not low framerates. Your CPU, HDD and Optical drives, 8800GTS, and case fans are all pulling off that wimpy 12v rail and I agree with other people, your nuts running such expensive power hungry components on that Power supply.

Wanna make a bet? I have seen first hand how an underpowered PSU can affect gaming performance and FPS. If a high end GPU like a G80 is being starved for power then it will underperform.

In some occasions the GPU's will not even run at there full clock speeds when being underpowered.

*Sorry there, Crossing replies... didn't see this*

Seriously, You have tested this yourself? Like swapping in a better power supply made a stable system perform alot better? Tell me more. That's honestly very interesting Rob.

I've read quite a bit over the years and have probably a couple hundred builds going for myself over these years, and have never personally seen such a thing nor heard/read it from any credible source. Honestly, I find it facinating and would love to see a test of this.

Well when I first started building pc's I like any other noob did not understand the importance of a good solid PSU. My first build contained a X1900XT 512mb and I had it paired with an inadequate psu from the get go. This resulted in my games under performing and also resulted in a multitude of system shutdowns.

I went through 2 different cheap dual rail psu's before I finally figured it all out. I finally bit the bullet on a nice single rail silverstone PSU with 38 amps on the 12v rail.

My games were finally where they should be as far as frame rates are concerned and also I had no more system shut downs.

I have heard from quite a few people that the reason for the bad fps with an inadequate psu is because certain GPU's will actually scale back in clock speeds in an attempt to prevent damage.

It must be true because I have experienced this first hand as well as a good friend of mine.

Reply to RobsX2

I have to agree with you on this one. A high end graphic card needs all the juice it can get or it under clocks itself thus giving bad performance.

My 8800 was operating like crap , getting a Corsair HX 620 ,50a power supply , noticeable difference in performance almost day and night specially when putting on AA and AF TO HIGH Levels.

Fear showed a considerable improvement

So for the record ROBX2 i agree with your statement

Zapper

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Ok here is a little list of what ive found in my local stores...

I still think the prices are too much but i have no choice.

1. Thermaltake Toughpower 600W..........107€
2. OCZ GameXStream 600W..................142€
3. SHARKOON Silent Storm 120 600W.....113€
4. TAGAN TG500-U25 500W....................123€
5. SILVERSTONE, Zeus ST65ZF 650W......126€

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I think its a rip off but what else can i do? What do u think of these PSU-s
and which one is the best choice for me since im limited on money very
much right now ...

Thx again to all

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