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Open Letter To Omid: Have You Lost Your Frakkin' Mind?

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April 5, 2007 8:09:03 AM

This will likely get me banned, so if you never hear from me again, I bid you all adieu! May all your benchmarks be strong, may all your chips be fast and may all your fanboi dreams come true.

Dear Omid.

I respectfully would like to know if you have lost your frakkin' mind.

You have junked up this site with an aberrant generic "free-template" graphical look; you seem to be far more interested in diverting hits from THG to your wholly irrelevant blog sites dealing with pink boomboxes, GM fuel standards, police trikes, Ford engines and French trains; and THG which before your buyout was respected and envied among tech sites is now getting scooped by garage sites written in incomprehensible Chinglish. Not that the recent batch of embarassing dilettante THG articles have been much better.

I've got news for you. THG does not equal CNET. They make more money than THG does. Live with it. Your efforts to expand the latitude of THG to increase your Google Adwords income and to place even more ads onto an already choked site is doomed to failure as the enthusiasts (who are the only true backbone of THG) are going to abandon this place in droves.

You didn't just buy a site. You bought a heritage. When THG spoke, captains of industry once quaked in fear. Now they're just rolling over in laughter. If they are aware of it at all.

Take it from a guy who likely has been in the business a couple of decades longer than you and was posting on THG when you thought those initials were of a hallucenogenic chemical. The key to increasing your ROI is not turning THG into salon.com or autoweek.com. It is only in recapturing the legacy of the site that brought Intel to its knees, made front-page news around the world and was acknowledged at one of the most authoritative sources on the planet. It achieved that heady status through superb journalism implemented by knowledgeable, expert engineers who focused like a laser beam on the technical aspects that mattered to the enthusiast/prosumer/gamer. You can regain this premier position and increase your profits by reawakening this hard-nosed emphasis on excellence in the reporting of PC component news and the performance grueling, cutting-edge lab testing.

This is the key to making money with THG which, as any businessman, you're primarily interested in. Don't dilute the value of this site, increase it!

Sincerely,

Capt. Robert April.
April 5, 2007 8:39:24 AM

Who the f*ck is Omid? 8O
April 5, 2007 9:32:16 AM

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Who the f*ck is Omid? 8O


I think that Ahkmed's younger brother.
April 5, 2007 9:59:06 AM

Omid Rahmat, CEO of TG Publishing.
April 5, 2007 10:12:26 AM

I've been reading Tom'sHardwareGuide since it was little more than text with simple links.

I've watched the site decline in journalistic standards such as spelling, grammar, choice of article subject matter and focus within articles as well as the all important rigorous examination of FACT.

I've also seen the creeping increase in adverts, starting with the plain banner and column ads of yesteryear (I was happy with those as they are static and can be ignored); then the disgustingly annoying 'greenlinks' which are breeding like rabbits on viagra; and now we have putrid excrescences of the FLASH kind.

GET THEM OUT OF MY EYELINE - I want to read an article not a bloody advert.

Q
April 5, 2007 10:15:22 AM

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word of advice to the condemned.


I've pretty well said my piece. I'll be glad to answer any questions on this thread, but I don't think that any grandstanding on my part as the "lightning rod" against the current boneheaded editorial and marketing policy is going to serve any real purpose.

Dewd, will you bring me a cake on visiting days with a halfmoon file and a copy of Anandtech's latest reviews hidden inside? :lol: 
April 5, 2007 10:16:49 AM

Totally right.

Toms' has decided that we are all crying out for a 'geek lifestyle' page. I dunno about anyone else, but I really, really just want Tom's Hardware Guide back rather than the Geek-Cosmo that it's fast becoming.

Biggest culprit IMO is Aaron Mckenna, who never seems to write anything about computers but is quite happy to let me read through a two page blog entry only to discover that by the end of it I haven't been informed of anything more important or interesting than that he stood behind a bratty kid in line at a computer store. Really f*cking fascinating.
April 5, 2007 10:23:46 AM

I agree 100% with you. I have the same ability as anyone else , to surf as I please, but here I am, waiting and reading what little there is to read. Ive just done a google search on one Thomas Pabst, and followed alot of links to others sites that was talking about him as well as THG. It looked to me that those posts from other sites were generated from either respect or jealousy. OK, there is room for more info here, BUT what I see going on is there has been a huge reduction of reviews about hardware AND a reduction in quality and content as well. Ive found that in a short time, reading the articles and visiting the forum Ive increased my hardware knowledge immensely. So I hope the powers that be(Omid?) listen to the eheart and soul of this site, cause as Ive learned from the forums, its as if people here are somewhat like employes, a companies best assets
April 5, 2007 11:35:41 AM

Are you trying to tell us that you don't enjoy coming to a computer hardware / software review site and reading about Ford's new 6 ton SUV / corn harvester hybrid that gets 2 miles per tank??

How can you not be happy with a site that has more FLASH ads than a crack addict's Myspace page?

Are you not interested in the fact that a pink iPod is a massive achievment and a headline that most 15 - 50 year old males will truly enjoy???

Really, can you tell us that you don't just LOVE incomprehensible reviews of the latest Nintendo Wii wristrap that goes on for 16 pages?

I mean sure, it has nothing at all to do with, you know, computers and the like, but I really think that my eyes bleeding from 3 - 6 flash ads while reading about Tonka's new line of toy trucks made from recycled batteries is pretty awesome!

</sarcasm>

Torgo
April 5, 2007 11:47:33 AM

Gentlemen, I have to agree with you. Not that Toms is a bad site, far from it. But returning to its roots would benefit us all.

High Regards,
Howard
April 5, 2007 11:52:07 AM

I wouldn't mind putting that purdy mouth on that flash ad to the left asking for comments to good use.

Yes I am southern, and yes I am referring to Deliverance. Hee hee, squeal piggy squeal.

Sorry a little off topic. Too much coffee this morning.

R,
HS
April 5, 2007 11:59:17 AM

If I wanted to read about the french high speed train, I go to cnn, if I want to read about some car, I read motor trend or C&D, and for those that think THG is BI-as, well take a look at those two mags! :p 
April 5, 2007 12:01:23 PM

I so like the direction your trying to point out to THG. Most of the Articles suck and are at least 2 days to 1 Month behind the industry. And I use to love Opening up like 15 Pages on my Firefox and just sit there reading for the next hour about interesting Experiments and comparisons of CPU's adn Hardware in general. I've just stopped going to Toms after the new Graphical update. Everything is so out of place and confusing to find.
*The articles never get updates and they are either done half-assed or they have been done by a 10th grade kid :?
*The articles are 1 month late and they have nothing to add upon The_Inquirer's report. And many of the times the reviews turn out to be B/S
*I'm starting to head over to the INQ more often because they are starting to come up with newer and seem to get more consistent "good" news than they are usually known for.. Okay about 25% is still B/S but before it use to be 25% was even worth looking at and 75% was just authors ranting about something that's been going around as "RUMOURS". even Rahul Sood has been seen posting once.
EDIT: Just went back on TOMS and 1/2 the News are'nt even Hardware related?? WTF? ETHANOL Cars??
April 5, 2007 12:08:53 PM

the most loved artists are those who knows how to reinvent themselves
just an ideea for the day,maybe the caffeine is kickin'
April 5, 2007 12:19:18 PM

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Who the f*ck is Omid? 8O


I think that Ahkmed's younger brother.
Ahh... dirka dirka dirka.
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April 5, 2007 12:21:37 PM

THG has evolved into a complete disappointment. I used to spend hours on the site reading through the wealth of good, well researched and unbiased information.
The only thing worth browsing anymore is the forums.
I can't remember the last time I actually read, or if I did read pay much attention to any article on the site. The look of the new site compliments the content quite nicely. Dull and boring.
April 5, 2007 12:31:25 PM

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THG has evolved into a complete disappointment. I used to spend hours on the site reading through the wealth of good, well researched and unbiased information.
The only thing worth browsing anymore is the forums.
I can't remember the last time I actually read, or if I did read pay much attention to any article on the site. The look of the new site compliments the content quite nicely. Dull and boring.

well it just seems that you somehow read my thoughts
April 5, 2007 12:31:55 PM

All THG has to do is look at The Computer Shopper, although not exactly the same it is similar. They went from technical articles hardware dissected comparisons and price guides to what? Vogue for the geek. Its just like any other generic rag these days nobody reads.

I guess thats where THG is heading judging by many of these "new" articles I have been reading.

Anandtech is not as slick but the depth of some of their technical articles is astounding at times. I think THG used to be like that?
April 5, 2007 12:37:34 PM

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All THG has to do is look at The Computer Shopper, although not exactly the same it is similar. They went from technical articles hardware dissected comparisons and price guides to what? Vogue for the geek. Its just like any other generic rag these days nobody reads.

I guess thats where THG is heading judging by many of these "new" articles I have been reading.

Anandtech is not as slick but the depth of some of their technical articles is astounding at times. I think THG used to be like that?

I will never, EVER forget the THG video of misc. processors having their heatsinks and fans removed... recalling those AMDs going up in smoke still brings a tear to my eye. Those were the days!
April 5, 2007 12:40:30 PM

While I agree with you that there has been a downward spiral (I have been reading since 98 when Dr. Tom was here) in the quality of articles (not all. the recent article on the graphic cards vs chipsets was great) I don't agree regarding the adds.

I am willing to endure advertising for quality articles on computer hardware. So guys keep the adds (they have to make money somehow) but please concentrate on computer hardware investigative journalism and reviews. Unfortunately I have found that in recent times I have been opening xbitlabs and behardware more often for hardware news and reviews :( 
April 5, 2007 12:44:24 PM

I agree with you all Tomshardware seem not the best anymore. I was reading the runescape exposed. The guy seem to put it next to WOW or Dungion seige and other gore games. The funny thing is when you kill a monster you get a load of bones. and mybe a skin.

Let get back to subject. What is good sites now. I been useing computer america and anandtech

Computer America talk about differnt computer stuff and you can listen to it while reading another forum or play a game.

Anandtech seem to be a back up from tg. Now it change.
April 5, 2007 12:49:40 PM

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I agree with you all Tomshardware seem not the best anymore. I was reading the runescape exposed. The guy seem to put it next to WOW or Dungion seige and other gore games. The funny thing is when you kill a monster you get a load of bones. and mybe a skin.

Let get back to subject. What is good sites now. I been useing computer america and anandtech

Computer America talk about differnt computer stuff and you can listen to it while reading another forum or play a game.

Anandtech seem to be a back up from tg. Now it change.


You should be a THG writer, you would fit right in.... :wink:
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April 5, 2007 1:00:51 PM

I assume you use IE because other browsers like Firefox have the ability to block ads and Flash automatically. Go download Firefox from http://www.mozilla.com/firefox and then go to Tools -> Add-ons -> Get Extension. Pick AdBlock Plus and be very happy :D 
April 5, 2007 1:03:28 PM

funny. My writing crap. But hand me a quill pen or a miroblaster I can write caligerphy on glass.

Writing never been my best. Writing spelling and such. But I have hands of a artest. Not many people can take a 400,000 rpm dremal and make gun stocks or write on glass metal and wood. Or use a miroblaster

But that me.
April 5, 2007 1:03:44 PM

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I assume you use IE because other browsers like Firefox have the ability to block ads and Flash automatically. Go download Firefox from http://www.mozilla.com/firefox and then go to Tools -> Add-ons -> Get Extension. Pick AdBlock Plus and be very happy :D 


It doesn't block the 'greenlinks' which I find the most annoying.

Q
April 5, 2007 1:05:38 PM

Where do we go? I been in Notebookreview most of the time.
April 5, 2007 1:20:29 PM

you can try xbitlabs or behardware
April 5, 2007 1:21:50 PM

i really feel kinda ripped off as a young enthusiast. everyone shares their memories of the golden days, and i do suppose that it is human nature to glorify the past, but it does seem like some of the big players that got me INTO the custom/enthusiast/tech scene have become frail shadows of their former selves.

a few years back, i found The Screen Savers and THG, both of which BLEW MY MIND. people at both were masters of computers, and it astounded me! i wanted to know what they were talking about, and be able to apply it. now, though, it seems that both have died off significantly. The Screen Savers became a horrid MTV wannabe-- Attack of the Show :roll: , and THG is almost silent on new ideas and things... both of my favorite sources are crippled now. its disheartening, and it makes me fear that the tech scene is just becoming another SCENE, if you know what i mean...

i think it was good that the Capt. said what he did, but now i can only hope that perhaps this thread will make some difference, rather than slipping by unseen like so many others
April 5, 2007 1:22:04 PM

Long time lurker here, though i have started to post occasionally. I've been reading articles on TomsHardware since 1999, just as i was starting university, and i must say i agree with you CaptRobertApril.

Even in the last year the articles have started a noticable downward spiral. That is not to say that there isn't any relevance left in the witterings on THG, however whereby i used to be inclined to trust THG as THE source for information regarding any hardware i was considering buying, i now resort to a number of different sources to cross reference information.

I have to admit my own annoyance with those damn green links, i have a rather amusing habit of occasionally following my place in an article with the mouse pointer and everytime you highlight one of those links... ** BANG ** AAAARRRGHHH!! I just want to read the bloomin' article! It wouldn't be so bad if it was the occasional paragraph or a even footnote at the bottom of the article, but ever other line.... Come on! Get it sorted!

Oh and the token wee off topic bit to CaptRobertApril: "So say we all!"
April 5, 2007 1:26:42 PM

A lot of people feel this way. Well said Rob.
April 5, 2007 1:42:05 PM

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funny. My writing crap. But hand me a quill pen or a miroblaster I can write caligerphy on glass.

Writing never been my best. Writing spelling and such. But I have hands of a artest. Not many people can take a 400,000 rpm dremal and make gun stocks or write on glass metal and wood. Or use a miroblaster

But that me.


Now that is cool! Do you have a website with some of your work?
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April 5, 2007 1:44:23 PM

I feel it, a single review at THG was good enough for me a few years ago. Everything I bought was mostly because of Tom's reviews. I still go to THG everyday, but I get my info from the forums, not the main site.
If the forums were ever discontinued, I am afraid that Tom's would be removed from my favorites. At best it would be one of those sites you checked in on every month or so just to see if anything interesting is happening.
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April 5, 2007 1:59:00 PM

Hmm. For some reason I never see any greenlinks unless I haven't signed in. Perhaps the version of Firefox I use has super-special powers because it's a 64-bit version I compiled myself from Gentoo's source code ebuilds. Maybe the dev that packaged Mozilla's source into the ebuild put in a special --ignore-greenlinks compile flag in there or something.

What would be even more something would be a --disable-DRM flag for media players and a --strip-useless-bloaty-crap flag for Windows Vista.
April 5, 2007 2:02:21 PM

I have to agree with everything said above, Tom's used to be an extremely respectable site with quality unbiased reviews. Even in the last year the quality was decent. It was always better than Anand.

Until, like somebody pointed out, sometime this year when the quality deteriorated quite dramatically, with some flat our misleading and poorly researched articles. Not to mention an emerging bias. And like somebody noticed, now it seems like Tom's is more content discussing CE than anything really technical in nature.

I know things have been quiet on the hardware innovation front, but there are still topics out there. I mean, with Vista's release there is so much coverage that could be dedicated to just that - for example, Creative's compatibility, which is questionable, or wireless Vista / XP issues, which I unerstand about, etc.

Btw, don't you just think the site jumps the shark once you start seeing video reviews? I mean, f#$king video reviews?! I'd rather read gamespot...

Tom's used to be a site that had serious unbiased reviews that would always get a response from the OEMs if they exposed them. Now, I am not sure they would even read them.
April 5, 2007 2:07:41 PM

I've only been reading here regularly for 9 months or so, and even in that short time i've noticed changes in quality.
April 5, 2007 2:18:09 PM

the green links as in intellitxt? Just add intellitxt to Adblock.
April 5, 2007 2:22:39 PM

I had to add *IntelliTxt* with the asterisk in there with Adblock Plus. I also have been disappointed with the way THG has turned out these days.
April 5, 2007 2:24:57 PM

Have user generated content. Put up a list of topics, let the visitors decide by vote what they want to see. That way we will have fewer articles, but more meaningful and stuff we want to read about.

What happened to the thermal compound shootout? Something similar, but actually execute on the plan.
April 5, 2007 2:26:13 PM

Just wanted you guys to know that I'm following this thread and am gratified for the agreements and the stars. As I said earlier, I'm staying out of the debate as I've said my piece. Whatever the community decides it wants to do to help float the sinking ship, count me in!
April 5, 2007 2:30:36 PM

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Just wanted you guys to know that I'm following this thread and am gratified for the agreements and the stars. As I said earlier, I'm staying out of the debate as I've said my piece. Whatever the community decides it wants to do to help float the sinking ship, count me in!


I wouldn't want to help float it, the faster it sinks the better, nothing short of being "sunk" will be enough to get anything to change around here.
April 5, 2007 2:40:59 PM

IMO it's pretty sad when coming to this site and only these forum threads have any interest to you!
April 5, 2007 2:45:00 PM

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I will never, EVER forget the THG video of misc. processors having their heatsinks and fans removed... recalling those AMDs going up in smoke still brings a tear to my eye. Those were the days!


That was the VERY FIRST Tom's hardware Guide Video! I still watch it from time to time just to watch some silicon burn! :lol:  Its almost impossible these days to even find that video on this site. I go to the video section, and nope; not there. I had to go to google to find it. It's right here for those of you that haven't seen it in a while.

Bring Back Old Skool THG!!!
April 5, 2007 2:48:09 PM

My first reaction was to say, "IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE SITE, THEN LEAVE IT."

Then I thought about it some more. What is the reason why I ever started posting here? Because I loved the CPU reviews. That's what drew me into THG, good 'ole CPU, video card, and other hardware reviews.

HOWEVER

I don't really check the main Tom's website anymore. I have a bookmark that not only takes me straight into forums, but actually straight into the CPU forums, because that's my main interest. I don't check the main website because it's not as hardware focused anymore. And by hardware I mean CPUs, GPUs, hard drives, and to some extent, motherboards.

Robert is right that the original following of Tom's Hardware might be losing interest because THG seems WAY to eclectic lately. And yes, the website does look like a free template, but even beyond that, the content is not as good.

I do not think they'll ban Robert, and I hope they won't. For the most part his criticism was constructive and respectful.

THG: Jack of all trades, master of none?
April 5, 2007 2:57:56 PM

Ok, well... if there are a few other posters willingl to pony up some $$$... we can make an offer for the site.

Given the hits to this site, I think there are great opportunities to turn this site around while banking some $$$.
April 5, 2007 3:00:50 PM

Quote:
funny. My writing crap. But hand me a quill pen or a miroblaster I can write caligerphy on glass.

Writing never been my best. Writing spelling and such. But I have hands of a artest. Not many people can take a 400,000 rpm dremal and make gun stocks or write on glass metal and wood. Or use a miroblaster

But that me.


Now that is cool! Do you have a website with some of your work?


I second that! Post some pics of your work :) 
April 5, 2007 3:10:05 PM

There are not enough ads on THG IMHO. And the articles, they should try harder when they split them into 18 pages.. aim for 48 pages minimum, one paragraph or one line a page would be great. And the greenlinks, they should be added to ForumZ.. in user posts, lots of them.. add more please, and lots of flash ads in the forumz. Do anything to be more like myspace please,

oh and don't forget the mp3's ... force those on your viewers too, because everybody is looking for that X-treme Web 2.0 experience!
April 5, 2007 3:29:53 PM

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Biggest culprit IMO is Aaron McKenna, who never seems to write anything about computers but is quite happy to let me read through a two page blog entry only to discover that by the end of it I haven't been informed of anything more important or interesting than that he stood behind a bratty kid in line at a computer store. Really f*cking fascinating.


Aaron McKenna is a mar on this site. I couldn't care less about how awesome his LAN party was last weekend. Reading this guy's editorials makes me feel like I'm peeking into the private life of some geeky, hormonally-charged 10th grader. Even editorials should have some dignity.
April 5, 2007 3:35:14 PM

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There are not enough ads on THG IMHO. And the articles, they should try harder when they split them into 18 pages.. aim for 48 pages minimum, one paragraph or one line a page would be great. And the greenlinks, they should be added to ForumZ.. in user posts, lots of them.. add more please, and lots of flash ads in the forumz. Do anything to be more like myspace please,

oh and don't forget the mp3's ... force those on your viewers too, because everybody is looking for that X-treme Web 2.0 experience!


LMAO

Dripping, oozing, saturated with unadulterated sarcasm! Nice!
April 5, 2007 3:48:30 PM

Hnn. This isn't what I meant by diplomatic...
April 5, 2007 4:09:16 PM

Nobody has even mentioned the Barry Gerber articles.
All that crap he spewed out. Articles that were at best written by an uninformed idiot and at worst were just straight out lies. On top that if the articles had been well done they were still pointless. This site has actually been my homepage since almost the begining. Not any more.
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