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E4300, RAM + Motherboard with AGP 8X

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April 5, 2007 1:20:25 PM

Hi Overclockers,

This is my first time overclocking a chip but first I need help with choosing the hardware.

I have decided I want an E4300 as many overclockers here have clocked it to 2.7-3Ghz. I was thinking of buying DDR2 ram though I am not sure which one to get (probably DDR2-6400 2GB). The final thing I need is a motherboard which supports AGP x8 as I have an 7800GS OC (BFG).

I have been researching a little and I have seen an ASRock 4CoreDual which supports AGP 8X. But does anybody know any good boards which I can overclock the E4300 to at least 2.7-3Ghz?

I play a lot of games so that's why I came up with the spec. I don't realy want to change my 7800gs OC to PCI-E as I feel it still has some juice left. :D 

DragonTail

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April 5, 2007 2:26:05 PM

If you hold off a day or so i will be receiving the following ASRock 4CoreDual Motherboard. I have heard they are quite good overclockers, so will be putting that to the test. I will be mating the board with an E4300 too.

For reference and to add a little twist to the project, I am using an X800XT Platinum Edition (AGP version), and DDR1-400 RAM!! Should make things very interesting. This board is quite good from an upgrade point of as it puts you in the position of being able to add up tp DDR2-1066, and i think most if not all current Core2duo's. Furthermore you have a PCI-Express slot of gfx card upgrading.

My reasons are due to a friend's motherboard blowing and wanting a budget system. He couldn't afford new ram/gfx card, so i figured this was the best option and gave him an upgrade path. Hell the motherboard is cheap enough that it could just be swapped eventually.
April 5, 2007 2:43:07 PM

That's great! :D  I can hold off for a while.

Yea the ASRock motherboard is good as it has AGP + PCI-E, plus its a wild overclocker according to some reviews. 8)

What Ghz range are you overclocking to?

Good luck
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April 5, 2007 3:03:30 PM

Will be trying for the 2.5-3ghz mark, i'm getting a new case as well, a Coolermaster Centurion 5. I'm hoping the airflow will assist in keeping everything cool even on stock cooling. Though i have a feeling that the RAM will be the limiting factor, it does however have a CL2.5 latency.

Fingers crossed i can make some headway with it. Your plans are to buy new RAM anyway, so you should enjoy better success with the board. I would be interested if you go the same road what results you get out the same board! I will be running 3DMark 5 and 6 once i've determined the system is stable!

Parts have arrived, however they arrived 5 mins after i left the house. Bloody typical. Now have to wait until tomorrow for collection! Grr... So much for them leaving the parts with the neighbours should i not be home!
April 5, 2007 3:42:11 PM

uhhhh...those boards are not exactly known for their overclockng abbilities. Specially since you can only get a max of DDR2 667 in them.
April 5, 2007 3:42:59 PM

When I build mine we will compare results. :D  Are you building a gaming machine?

I know how that feels. I had that happen on 2 occasions and even though my neighbours are in they still don't take the parcels.

For cooling i'm looking at a ThermalRight Ultra 120 :o  I have heard good reviews about this heatsink.
April 5, 2007 3:46:16 PM

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uhhhh...those boards are not exactly known for their overclockng abbilities. Specially since you can only get a max of DDR2 667 in them.


Can you recommend any boards that might provide a better overclocking experience? It also has to have an AGP x8 slot. I had a look but I cannot find any better boards that the ASRock 4CoreDuel.
April 5, 2007 3:52:37 PM

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uhhhh...those boards are not exactly known for their overclockng abbilities. Specially since you can only get a max of DDR2 667 in them.


To my knowledge only the ASRock 775Dual-880Pro has that limitation. It is however only AGP with no PCI-Express. The 4CoreDual-VSTA DOES support up to 1066.
April 5, 2007 4:00:10 PM

Plus it supports Intel's quad-core processor 8O
April 5, 2007 4:21:14 PM

Albatron PX915P-AGPe, PX915G-AGPe BUT DDR400max, and rated to pentium 4. So no use. Perhaps a BIOS update will provide support for Core2Duo's but this just isn't worth your money cos of the RAM limitation.

Foxconn 915PL7AE-8EKRS, 915PL7AE-8S using the same chipset. Again the same situation as the Albatron.

ECS provide the 915P-A (V3.0) and 915G-A (V1.2A) and the support for DDR2 RAM BUT only up to 533.

At the moment that's the limits of my knowledge though can investigate when i get home from work. Looks like at this point in time the ASRock's the best option.
April 5, 2007 4:25:01 PM

Yea I have been looking around too and I also still think that the ASRock motherboard is the best option.
April 5, 2007 4:28:50 PM

Keep your head up! I will be able to give you my results tomorrow.

Will also be able to tell you how good the onboard RAID controller is. I have two 200gb SATA drives to go in on RAID0.
April 5, 2007 4:33:58 PM

Thanks, look forward in seeing how far you can overclock.

I have a 160gig SATA2 drive though I won't be putting it on RAID. Probably in the near future I will be using RAID.
April 6, 2007 8:00:53 PM

Sorry for the delay, but i was doing some thorough testing to be sure. Currently stable at 2.49Ghz, idling at 32degC. Room ambient at the moment is around 22degC.

Specs:
ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA
E4300, stock cooling and i believe stock voltages
1024mb Geil DDR400 2.5-3-3-6 stock timings
2 x 200gb SATA, RAID0
ATI Radeon X800XT Platinum Edition with 256mb

Getting a score of 6780 on 3DMark05. This will improve when i gain access to the Catalyst Drivers properly. Tis complaining about MOM.EXE not running on startup!

More to follow, i believe the CPU has much more to offer once i figure out the motherboard settings and so on.
April 6, 2007 8:44:56 PM

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uhhhh...those boards are not exactly known for their overclockng abbilities. Specially since you can only get a max of DDR2 667 in them.


That's all you need to get 3.0 GHz out of a E4300.
April 7, 2007 12:38:36 AM

how you like that card I got one and it has lived up to all I thrown at it. I remember people here saying its a crappy card but they must have been on glue and because of that some bought the xfx and the bliss and they later posted having problems with them and meanwhile the bfg has worked good for me and almost every other one I asked.
April 7, 2007 10:10:15 AM

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Sorry for the delay, but i was doing some thorough testing to be sure. Currently stable at 2.49Ghz, idling at 32degC. Room ambient at the moment is around 22degC.

Specs:
ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA
E4300, stock cooling and i believe stock voltages
1024mb Geil DDR400 2.5-3-3-6 stock timings
2 x 200gb SATA, RAID0
ATI Radeon X800XT Platinum Edition with 256mb

Getting a score of 6780 on 3DMark05. This will improve when i gain access to the Catalyst Drivers properly. Tis complaining about MOM.EXE not running on startup!

More to follow, i believe the CPU has much more to offer once i figure out the motherboard settings and so on.


Wow good overclock :D  How did you find the board? Was it a hassle to overclock the e4300? That's a good overclock with DDR400 and stock voltages.

Yea your 3dMark score will hopefully go up once you have installed the proper drivers.

Thanks for your feedback I am going to go ahead with my build. 8)
April 7, 2007 10:12:06 AM

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how you like that card I got one and it has lived up to all I thrown at it. I remember people here saying its a crappy card but they must have been on glue and because of that some bought the xfx and the bliss and they later posted having problems with them and meanwhile the bfg has worked good for me and almost every other one I asked.


I am wondering if I'm right to say that the 7800GS OC still has juice for the current games on the market? Such as Oblivion etc... High settings and no lag.
April 7, 2007 12:05:41 PM

it should be perfect for you, no hitches what so ever.
April 7, 2007 12:39:23 PM

just a question about the 4Core Dual VSTA : is the PCI-E slot still limited to 4x (as in 775 Dual VSTA) or is it a real 16x slot ?
April 7, 2007 1:11:21 PM

it is a 4x electrical slot but it is physically a 16x sized one, i don't think it will be a problem though because when said person upgrades their video card to need pci-e they would probably upgrade from the budget board too since you can get a much better one for about $90
April 7, 2007 3:08:43 PM

OK, a wee bit of tuning later...

Machine been burnt in for over 24 hours now. Changed ATI drivers to the slightly older Catalyst 6.14, and notched CPU fsb to 276. CPU @ 2.496, Gfx tuned to 535.50 (520 stock) with 571 memory (560 stock).

Now getting 6911 on 3DMark05. All in a days work!
April 8, 2007 10:16:06 AM

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OK, a wee bit of tuning later...

Machine been burnt in for over 24 hours now. Changed ATI drivers to the slightly older Catalyst 6.14, and notched CPU fsb to 276. CPU @ 2.496, Gfx tuned to 535.50 (520 stock) with 571 memory (560 stock).

Now getting 6911 on 3DMark05. All in a days work!


That's a good overclock :D . Thanks I am now going to get this board.
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