Wineguard gs2000

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"None" <nowhere@none.net> wrote:
> I am having a local satellite business come out to install and antenna
> for HDTV air broadcasts.
> The guy is really pushing the Winegaurd GS2000 for starters, saying that
> a more powerful one with a preamp, (GS2000 comes with a preamp) could
> cause ghosting. His price is ~$200 for everything.
> I have another guy, who is taunting a channel master (don't know the
> model # yet) with a rotor and a external preamp, which he says will cost
> about $650 installed.
> My question is, anyone have any experience with the GS2000, am I selling
> myself short with this antenna. I can always upgrade they say when
> they're here if the reception isn't good enough.
> Having both DTV local channels and even a very basic cable for locals,
> all I care about is High Def OTA.
> Thanks for any advice you may have.

Have you checked antennaweb.org? They will give you
a good idea of what is required in your area.
Chip

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I'm within 20 miles of any station I want in this city.
As far as UHF is concerned, I'm not sure. Here we have 8,10 and 13 HD, which
I almost picked up with an indoor antenna, and then the PBS (21) and Fox
(31) channels.
I am told that most HD signals here broadcast in UHF.

Antennaweb.org says for Fox ( worst case) I need a large directional antenna
with a pre amp. The others need a medium directional. I am getting the
feeling that the GS2000 being a small/medium? bi-directional won't work.
Maybe this answers my questions.
They say they will bring better antenna's with them and I can upgrade if the
signal is not good enough. I will call the place and talk to them tomorrow
about this.

"Mr Fixit" <MrFixit@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Well, how far are you (air miles) from the station(s) you're wanting to
> receive and secondly, are the stations basically all one direction from
> you? Thirdly, are they all UHF stations (above channel 13) or are some in
> the channel range of 2 ~ 13 ?
>
> Beware the GS2000 is last year's model. The newest one is the GS2200, but
> probably similar specs. Broadband 54 - 850 Mhz. This is at best a
> compromise antenna.
>
> I (personally) would recommend avoiding any model with a preamp unless
> your situation absolutely calls for one. If stations are in multiple
> directions from you, a multi-element directional yagi with a rotator will
> probably provide best (and most reliable) results.
>
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>
> In article <Kdhfd.329039$bp1.70810@twister.nyroc.rr.com> "None"
> <nowhere@none.net> writes:
>
>>I am having a local satellite business come out to install and antenna for
>>HDTV air broadcasts.
>>The guy is really pushing the Winegaurd GS2000 for starters, saying that a
>>more powerful one with a preamp, (GS2000 comes with a preamp) could cause
>>ghosting. His price is ~$200 for everything.
>>I have another guy, who is taunting a channel master (don't know the model
>>#
>>yet) with a rotor and a external preamp, which he says will cost about
>>$650
>>installed.
>>My question is, anyone have any experience with the GS2000, am I selling
>>myself short with this antenna. I can always upgrade they say when they're
>>here if the reception isn't good enough.
>>Having both DTV local channels and even a very basic cable for locals, all
>>I
>>care about is High Def OTA.
>>Thanks for any advice you may have.
>>
>

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:32:50 GMT, "None" <nowhere@none.net> wrote:

>All of the digital channels I want are @ 163 degrees. It's only a matter of
>strength, I guess I don't need a rotor.
>Is this "ghosting" concern a bogus issue with too much pre amp?
>"Mr Fixit" <MrFixit@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:8e9rn0dnhdfdupa00st2dvgqld6vuic87o@4ax.com...
>> Well, how far are you (air miles) from the station(s) you're wanting to



Ok--From your headers and channel numbers you are located in the
Rochester, NY area. All the over the Air HD is located in the UHF
band. Also all the station in this are except WXXI 21 are only
transmitting at extremely low power. After selling antennas in the
area to dealers for several wholesale distributors For the last 30
years I can advise you to get as mush aluminum in the air as
possible. I would not use that winegard antenna . I would use the
Winegard HD9095p which is the successor to the Chromstar CS9095


As far as Channel master try the 4248.


All the signals come from one place so a rotor is probably not needed



Dick

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I am about 60 miles south east of Rochester and about 35 miles south of
Syracuse. I have a Wingard HD8200P and can get WXXI 21 in HD at about
75% signal. From Syracuse I get 3.1(HD), 3.2(UPN) and 68 (FOX).
Mike

None wrote:
> Thanks Dick, very accurate post and you're correct.
> It looks like I will be getting the Winegard 7082, which is larger than the
> CS9095. I don't know if it's better or worse, but it should be sufficient.
> "Dick" <NoOne@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:n7ltn09a1iotdtikui4b4icjnkh8r7ut2b@4ax.com...
>
>>On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:32:50 GMT, "None" <nowhere@none.net> wrote:
>>
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>>>All of the digital channels I want are @ 163 degrees. It's only a matter
>>>of
>>>strength, I guess I don't need a rotor.
>>>Is this "ghosting" concern a bogus issue with too much pre amp?
>>>"Mr Fixit" <MrFixit@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>news:8e9rn0dnhdfdupa00st2dvgqld6vuic87o@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>Well, how far are you (air miles) from the station(s) you're wanting to
>>>
>>
>>
>>Ok--From your headers and channel numbers you are located in the
>>Rochester, NY area. All the over the Air HD is located in the UHF
>>band. Also all the station in this are except WXXI 21 are only
>>transmitting at extremely low power. After selling antennas in the
>>area to dealers for several wholesale distributors For the last 30
>>years I can advise you to get as mush aluminum in the air as
>>possible. I would not use that winegard antenna . I would use the
>>Winegard HD9095p which is the successor to the Chromstar CS9095
>>
>>
>>As far as Channel master try the 4248.
>>
>>
>>All the signals come from one place so a rotor is probably not needed
>>
>>
>>
>>Dick
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Do you have a rotar Mike?
"Mike Ray" <mer1@cornell.edu> wrote in message
news:417FF43B.1000404@cornell.edu...
>I am about 60 miles south east of Rochester and about 35 miles south of
>Syracuse. I have a Wingard HD8200P and can get WXXI 21 in HD at about 75%
>signal. From Syracuse I get 3.1(HD), 3.2(UPN) and 68 (FOX).
> Mike
>
> None wrote:
>> Thanks Dick, very accurate post and you're correct.
>> It looks like I will be getting the Winegard 7082, which is larger than
>> the CS9095. I don't know if it's better or worse, but it should be
>> sufficient.
>> "Dick" <NoOne@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:n7ltn09a1iotdtikui4b4icjnkh8r7ut2b@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:32:50 GMT, "None" <nowhere@none.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>All of the digital channels I want are @ 163 degrees. It's only a matter
>>>>of
>>>>strength, I guess I don't need a rotor.
>>>>Is this "ghosting" concern a bogus issue with too much pre amp?
>>>>"Mr Fixit" <MrFixit@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:8e9rn0dnhdfdupa00st2dvgqld6vuic87o@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>>Well, how far are you (air miles) from the station(s) you're wanting to
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ok--From your headers and channel numbers you are located in the
>>>Rochester, NY area. All the over the Air HD is located in the UHF
>>>band. Also all the station in this are except WXXI 21 are only
>>>transmitting at extremely low power. After selling antennas in the
>>>area to dealers for several wholesale distributors For the last 30
>>>years I can advise you to get as mush aluminum in the air as
>>>possible. I would not use that winegard antenna . I would use the
>>>Winegard HD9095p which is the successor to the Chromstar CS9095
>>>
>>>
>>>As far as Channel master try the 4248.
>>>
>>>
>>>All the signals come from one place so a rotor is probably not needed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Dick
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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Too bad you don't install the stuff yourself around here
The guys on the phone are not serious enough about it and very vague. The
few that are want to sell you a helicopter with a nuke on the roof.

"Dick" <NoOne@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:58:09 GMT, "None" <nowhere@none.net> wrote:
>
>>Thanks Dick, very accurate post and you're correct.
>>It looks like I will be getting the Winegard 7082, which is larger than
>>the
>>CS9095. I don't know if it's better or worse, but it should be sufficient.
>>"Dick" <NoOne@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>
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> The 7082 is a 82 channel antenna--VHF-UHF and FM and has less gain on
> the UHF end than the 9096.. There are areas in Rochester that can't
> get OTA hi-def because of the low power they are pumping out. You may
> need a preamp before you're done. Try it without one, use RG6
> cable-not RG59--and if you do need a preamp- use the 00064 by
> ChannelMaster. It seemed to work a little better than the Winegard.
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>>> Ok--From your headers and channel numbers you are located in the
>>> Rochester, NY area. All the over the Air HD is located in the UHF
>>> band. Also all the station in this are except WXXI 21 are only
>>> transmitting at extremely low power. After selling antennas in the
>>> area to dealers for several wholesale distributors For the last 30
>>> years I can advise you to get as mush aluminum in the air as
>>> possible. I would not use that winegard antenna . I would use the
>>> Winegard HD9095p which is the successor to the Chromstar CS9095
>>>
>>>
>>> As far as Channel master try the 4248.
>>>
>>>
>>> All the signals come from one place so a rotor is probably not needed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
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Well, the 7082 did not work. They took it down and left. They want to bring
a bigger one out and try it. I'm so discouraged that I'm having my doubts.
It did not pick up FOX Ch31 at all. I got it momentarily with rabbit ears.
It did pick up the locals, but the picture wasn't as good as it could have
been.
"Dick" <NoOne@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 05:13:46 GMT, "None" <nowhere@none.net> wrote:
>
>>Too bad you don't install the stuff yourself around here
>>The guys on the phone are not serious enough about it and very vague. The
>>few that are want to sell you a helicopter with a nuke on the roof.
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> I'm getting too old to climb roofs anymore!!
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